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Oh boy. This gonna be a BIG one. But I think the majority of this is very straight-forward and simple such as very basic abilities, so it shouldn't take long.
The main purposes of this thread are to add a lot of missing stuff to the profiles.
Abilities
Acausality Type 2:
Here, it was explained that when summoning creatures, we are summoning either aspects of a singular creature as only one of them exists, or a random creature in general out of the x that exists. In the case of a troll, we are summoning 1 out of an x number. However, when summoning a Storm Lord, we are summoning an aspect of the only one that exists. This should be Type 2 Acausality for the Storm Lord and beings of a similar nature; higher tier creatures such as the Sun Serpent were also explained, which would also scale to the cosmic characters for obvious reasons.
Resistance to Causality Manipulation:
In Arc 1 we were given a time ribbo to protect us from time flux. Flux is defined as an act of flowing in or out of, meaning the time ribbon protects The Player from the action or process of time going in and out of its linear flow. This should be Resistance to Causality Manipulation
Acausality Type 1: The Player fights some dudes, time reverses back magically to when they were alive, they don't remember him but the Player and the Chronomancer remember fighting them and know that time has been tampered with.
Law Manipulation: Chaos magic defies logic and turns things upside dow. Additionally, there are the Duel Circles. Monsters and wizards can summon duel circles to engage in magical combat. These Duel Circles are referenced as being canon by Grandfather Spider and by the developers on the Wizard101 forums. Characters who don't use the Duel Circles normally are labeled as cheaters and "don't abide by the rules of the Spiral".
Clairvoyance: All Wizards have clairvoyance via crystal orbs and other objects
Sleep Manipulation: Raven can use the Titanic Lullaby.
Durability Negation: The minion sacrifice skill one-shots the enemy regardless of durability, power, level, etc. I know twitter statements aren't allowed but it is supported in verse by the fact it's an instakill. Developer confirms the spells (that negate durability) is the intended solution to the boss fight. It should be noted said spells completely ignore shields, debuffs, and anything that enhances durability. You can see this happening in-game here.
Light Manipulation for the Player: Self-explanatory.
An abundance of mind hax: This isn't even half of the mind hax in the verse. Mind controlling spirits, ghosts, etc. should be listed on the Player's profile.
Further justification for Bartleby's AE that can be added: The trees of Ravenwood which make up an aspect of existence are just offshoots/aspects of Bartleby himself
Regenerationn (High-Godly):
"High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after erasure from all aspects of existence, such as from history, narrative/plot, or conceptual/information Destruction."
For starters, Monstrology descriptions are completely canon to the story of the game as stated by Burke, and they talk about a creature's true strengths. The Devourer's description is: "Literally eats anything- Animals, plants, the abstract concept of love. Everything." This means The Devourer has the ability to conceptually devourer abstract concepts. He was also stated to be a dangerous threat to the Spiral itself, likely with his conceptual devouring. He did this on the Player. The Player couldn't even use game mechanics to leave the fight. You can't pass, you can't leave in anyway. The Player literally comes back from it. This means the Player regenerated from being conceptually removed from existence. This easily warrants High-Godly Regenerationn. This would scale to Bartleby because the Player became a god by being infused in Bartleby's essence. This would also mean Regenerationn Bypassing up to High-Godly since they can all kill each other. I asked on this thread and staff did say it was High-Godly.
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2): The lesser of the titans destroyed The First World. It is stated that the Spiral and The First World have different concepts of time. This would mean the Titans also destroyed time in the First World, which was stated to be also incomprehensible; The concept of time in the first world was beyond the level of the Spiral. The lesser Titans, as well as the original Titans from which they spawned, and their parents who created them, would scale to destroying the concept of time.
Summoning: Player can summon an aspect of (weakened) Bartleby.
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2 or 3): Alhazred created and formed the school of Balance magic and put it into the whole system of magic as a whole; blending the forces of the other schools into one. WoG stated that the destruction of even one of the 7 schools will make the whole system of magic as a whole go out of balance. This should be Type 2 or 3 Conceptual Creation.
Space-Time Manipulation and Causality Manipulation: In an upcoming update (These are official dialogue leaks of the game; Rest in peace "Wizad101 doesn't have separate timelines ") there is a 4th dimensional being known as the time butterfly. In the quest, we learn that something is "detimalzing the causality vortex of Krokotopia" and therefore causing different events to occur in this timeline's Krokotopia. This should be space-time manipulation and causality manipulation which scales to Bartleby for being the source of magic/powers and having created all creatures in the Spiral.
Supernatural Luck: Self-explanatory.
Immortality (Type 1): The Dragon Titan and by extension the other cosmic entities are immortal beings
Immortality (Type 8): Bartleby knew the Player would become the Divine Paradox and has been watching over him since. Raven stated she has been watching over the Player and she has been with him since the beginning. The Player also noticed her presence, especially when he was in danger.
The entire premise of the end of arc 3 is the idea of dualism. We learn here that Death is the absence of Life, Shadow is the absence of Light. and Chaos is the absence of Order. And that the opposite (dual) of this is also true. Life is the absence of Death, Light is the absence of Shadow and Order is the absence of Chaos. Everything there is defined by its opposite. Not only this, but these opposites are also beyond the wheel of existence. The wheel that forms existence is nothing to them, beyond even time itself. We also learn about 6 of the 7 schools of magic (The 7th is a special case). Myth is the opposite of Storm, Life is the opposite of Death and Fire is the opposite of Ice
However, there exists an idea. Something that has no (dual) opposite. This "thing" is simply Nothing. It has no opposites to define it, it is beyond the idea of dualism. This would mean this force is Transdual and is unbound by binary oppositions. This thing is beyond logic and comprehension.
This "Nothing" should have Transduality Type 2. Although it doesn't have a profile right now, I'm going to use it as a basis for other characters who have Transduality.
The Creator existed prior to all of this. Before this Transdual force, before these binary oppositions. Creating this "Nothing", as well as the binary oppositions that shape/form and transcend all of existence (Shadow and Chaos, Life and Death, Order and Chaos, aka Grandmother Raven and Grandfather Spider). Existing before binary oppositions as well as something that doesn't have a dualism idea to oppose it or define it, being more powerful than and existing beyond even their comprehension should give the Creator Transduality. Previously I asked on a thread, and it was generally agreed this would be Type 2 Transduality.
Furthermore, as an "icing on the cake", there is the School of Tempest. The school of tempest magic uses duality and manipulates it for their need and uses it to find hidden meanings. Magic is the primary force of everything that shapes the Wizard101 multiverse. It (Bartleby, the source of magic) even binds the binary oppositions that form reality itself (Life and Death, Order and Chaos, Light and Shadow [Which is also served as reality and existence]). Hence, The Creator created the source of magic that binds binary oppositions of existence together. He existed before all of this and created it of his own will: Bartleby, who binds all dualities of existence together and manipulates them and doesn't have an opposite to define him either. Bartleby thus should have a form of Transduality as well. Type 2 for binding all binary oppositions of existence together, and not having an opposition to define him either. Again, I asked on a thread about everything above and everyone agreed it would be Type 2 Transduality.
Nigh-Omniscience: Bartleby's omniscience should be changed to nigh-omniscience. While he sees and knows the past (present) and the future, he cannot see outcomes between other cosmic beings. Raven, should also be Nigh-Omniscient for the same reasons, as well as creating The Eyes of Time in the first place. Spider would scale to Raven for being her equal in every scenario, and in some cases, outsmarting her. He also has far better vision and knowledge of the future than Raven and even Bartleby do. He knew he would lose at the end of the game, and set events up to make sure he would lose.
Omnipresence: Bartleby's heart is connected to all worlds in the Spiral. Each world is separated by space-time. Bartleby is stated by Torrence to have his roots stretch invisibly across every world.
Attack Potency
Arc 1
Considering the Titans not only destroyed the universe, but the concept of time as well (As shown above), forcing Bartleby to make a new flow of time for the Spiral, the Player in Arc 1 and all those who scale (Malistaire, Ra, Storm Owl, Lydia Greyrose and the Forest Lords) should be upgraded from 3-A to Low 2-C.
Arc 2
The Player should have 2-A passive Power Absorption. He absorbed most of Morganthe's stolen power without ever intending to. The stolen power was The Song of Creation (which is 2-A on its profile) infused with Shadow Magic.
Arc 3
This is where the big upgrade comes from. The God Tiers, Raven, Spider, Bartleby, Divine Paradox and The Creator should be upgraded from 2-A to Low 1-C
For starters, the infinite-infinite multiverses are clearly stated to not be all of existence. The Spiral's multiverse is stated to be an echo of an even greater wheel. Meaning that existence is greater than an infinite ^ infinite multiverse. So we know 2-A is a lowball. Raven, Spider, and Bartleby, all have shown complete superiority over the multiverse, seeing it as complete insignificance, and can create, destroy, and reset existence as they see fit. Everyone inside the Spiral is an insignificant mortal to their true divine selves. A reminder that the multiverse is not all of existence. There is something even greater than it, and that these beings are beyond even that greater existence. That, and they are stated to be beyond the limited perception of mortals.
"But time is an illusion, look beyond it, and you will see that existence is a wheel. The Spiral itself is but an echo of this truth. Step off the wheel and see the great paradox, order and chaos, light, and shadow, outside our limited perceptions they are one"
In the case of the argument that this is flowery language. It is not. This is the plot for arc 4. Arc 4 revolves around these truths and Raven and co have shown superiority over their creation of the multiverse numerous times. The fact that the Spiral is not all of existence shows their scope is beyond the multiverse in the first place.
This isn't the main evidence for Low 1-C, the thing above it is, but the fact that the time butterfly is 4th dimensional, as its true name can only be pronounced and understood in a 4th-dimensional language, and that Raven and Spider transcend and have superiority over/view everyone in the Spiral as an insignificant mortal can also help towards the upgrade, as this would also apply to the time butterfly.
The main purposes of this thread are to add a lot of missing stuff to the profiles.
Abilities
Acausality Type 2:
Here, it was explained that when summoning creatures, we are summoning either aspects of a singular creature as only one of them exists, or a random creature in general out of the x that exists. In the case of a troll, we are summoning 1 out of an x number. However, when summoning a Storm Lord, we are summoning an aspect of the only one that exists. This should be Type 2 Acausality for the Storm Lord and beings of a similar nature; higher tier creatures such as the Sun Serpent were also explained, which would also scale to the cosmic characters for obvious reasons.
Resistance to Causality Manipulation:
In Arc 1 we were given a time ribbo to protect us from time flux. Flux is defined as an act of flowing in or out of, meaning the time ribbon protects The Player from the action or process of time going in and out of its linear flow. This should be Resistance to Causality Manipulation
Acausality Type 1: The Player fights some dudes, time reverses back magically to when they were alive, they don't remember him but the Player and the Chronomancer remember fighting them and know that time has been tampered with.
Law Manipulation: Chaos magic defies logic and turns things upside dow. Additionally, there are the Duel Circles. Monsters and wizards can summon duel circles to engage in magical combat. These Duel Circles are referenced as being canon by Grandfather Spider and by the developers on the Wizard101 forums. Characters who don't use the Duel Circles normally are labeled as cheaters and "don't abide by the rules of the Spiral".
Clairvoyance: All Wizards have clairvoyance via crystal orbs and other objects
Sleep Manipulation: Raven can use the Titanic Lullaby.
Durability Negation: The minion sacrifice skill one-shots the enemy regardless of durability, power, level, etc. I know twitter statements aren't allowed but it is supported in verse by the fact it's an instakill. Developer confirms the spells (that negate durability) is the intended solution to the boss fight. It should be noted said spells completely ignore shields, debuffs, and anything that enhances durability. You can see this happening in-game here.
Light Manipulation for the Player: Self-explanatory.
An abundance of mind hax: This isn't even half of the mind hax in the verse. Mind controlling spirits, ghosts, etc. should be listed on the Player's profile.
Further justification for Bartleby's AE that can be added: The trees of Ravenwood which make up an aspect of existence are just offshoots/aspects of Bartleby himself
Regenerationn (High-Godly):
"High-Godly: The ability to regenerate after erasure from all aspects of existence, such as from history, narrative/plot, or conceptual/information Destruction."
For starters, Monstrology descriptions are completely canon to the story of the game as stated by Burke, and they talk about a creature's true strengths. The Devourer's description is: "Literally eats anything- Animals, plants, the abstract concept of love. Everything." This means The Devourer has the ability to conceptually devourer abstract concepts. He was also stated to be a dangerous threat to the Spiral itself, likely with his conceptual devouring. He did this on the Player. The Player couldn't even use game mechanics to leave the fight. You can't pass, you can't leave in anyway. The Player literally comes back from it. This means the Player regenerated from being conceptually removed from existence. This easily warrants High-Godly Regenerationn. This would scale to Bartleby because the Player became a god by being infused in Bartleby's essence. This would also mean Regenerationn Bypassing up to High-Godly since they can all kill each other. I asked on this thread and staff did say it was High-Godly.
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2): The lesser of the titans destroyed The First World. It is stated that the Spiral and The First World have different concepts of time. This would mean the Titans also destroyed time in the First World, which was stated to be also incomprehensible; The concept of time in the first world was beyond the level of the Spiral. The lesser Titans, as well as the original Titans from which they spawned, and their parents who created them, would scale to destroying the concept of time.
Summoning: Player can summon an aspect of (weakened) Bartleby.
Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2 or 3): Alhazred created and formed the school of Balance magic and put it into the whole system of magic as a whole; blending the forces of the other schools into one. WoG stated that the destruction of even one of the 7 schools will make the whole system of magic as a whole go out of balance. This should be Type 2 or 3 Conceptual Creation.
Space-Time Manipulation and Causality Manipulation: In an upcoming update (These are official dialogue leaks of the game; Rest in peace "Wizad101 doesn't have separate timelines ") there is a 4th dimensional being known as the time butterfly. In the quest, we learn that something is "detimalzing the causality vortex of Krokotopia" and therefore causing different events to occur in this timeline's Krokotopia. This should be space-time manipulation and causality manipulation which scales to Bartleby for being the source of magic/powers and having created all creatures in the Spiral.
Supernatural Luck: Self-explanatory.
Immortality (Type 1): The Dragon Titan and by extension the other cosmic entities are immortal beings
Immortality (Type 8): Bartleby knew the Player would become the Divine Paradox and has been watching over him since. Raven stated she has been watching over the Player and she has been with him since the beginning. The Player also noticed her presence, especially when he was in danger.
The entire premise of the end of arc 3 is the idea of dualism. We learn here that Death is the absence of Life, Shadow is the absence of Light. and Chaos is the absence of Order. And that the opposite (dual) of this is also true. Life is the absence of Death, Light is the absence of Shadow and Order is the absence of Chaos. Everything there is defined by its opposite. Not only this, but these opposites are also beyond the wheel of existence. The wheel that forms existence is nothing to them, beyond even time itself. We also learn about 6 of the 7 schools of magic (The 7th is a special case). Myth is the opposite of Storm, Life is the opposite of Death and Fire is the opposite of Ice
However, there exists an idea. Something that has no (dual) opposite. This "thing" is simply Nothing. It has no opposites to define it, it is beyond the idea of dualism. This would mean this force is Transdual and is unbound by binary oppositions. This thing is beyond logic and comprehension.
This "Nothing" should have Transduality Type 2. Although it doesn't have a profile right now, I'm going to use it as a basis for other characters who have Transduality.
The Creator existed prior to all of this. Before this Transdual force, before these binary oppositions. Creating this "Nothing", as well as the binary oppositions that shape/form and transcend all of existence (Shadow and Chaos, Life and Death, Order and Chaos, aka Grandmother Raven and Grandfather Spider). Existing before binary oppositions as well as something that doesn't have a dualism idea to oppose it or define it, being more powerful than and existing beyond even their comprehension should give the Creator Transduality. Previously I asked on a thread, and it was generally agreed this would be Type 2 Transduality.
Furthermore, as an "icing on the cake", there is the School of Tempest. The school of tempest magic uses duality and manipulates it for their need and uses it to find hidden meanings. Magic is the primary force of everything that shapes the Wizard101 multiverse. It (Bartleby, the source of magic) even binds the binary oppositions that form reality itself (Life and Death, Order and Chaos, Light and Shadow [Which is also served as reality and existence]). Hence, The Creator created the source of magic that binds binary oppositions of existence together. He existed before all of this and created it of his own will: Bartleby, who binds all dualities of existence together and manipulates them and doesn't have an opposite to define him either. Bartleby thus should have a form of Transduality as well. Type 2 for binding all binary oppositions of existence together, and not having an opposition to define him either. Again, I asked on a thread about everything above and everyone agreed it would be Type 2 Transduality.
Nigh-Omniscience: Bartleby's omniscience should be changed to nigh-omniscience. While he sees and knows the past (present) and the future, he cannot see outcomes between other cosmic beings. Raven, should also be Nigh-Omniscient for the same reasons, as well as creating The Eyes of Time in the first place. Spider would scale to Raven for being her equal in every scenario, and in some cases, outsmarting her. He also has far better vision and knowledge of the future than Raven and even Bartleby do. He knew he would lose at the end of the game, and set events up to make sure he would lose.
Omnipresence: Bartleby's heart is connected to all worlds in the Spiral. Each world is separated by space-time. Bartleby is stated by Torrence to have his roots stretch invisibly across every world.
Attack Potency
Arc 1
Considering the Titans not only destroyed the universe, but the concept of time as well (As shown above), forcing Bartleby to make a new flow of time for the Spiral, the Player in Arc 1 and all those who scale (Malistaire, Ra, Storm Owl, Lydia Greyrose and the Forest Lords) should be upgraded from 3-A to Low 2-C.
Arc 2
The Player should have 2-A passive Power Absorption. He absorbed most of Morganthe's stolen power without ever intending to. The stolen power was The Song of Creation (which is 2-A on its profile) infused with Shadow Magic.
Arc 3
This is where the big upgrade comes from. The God Tiers, Raven, Spider, Bartleby, Divine Paradox and The Creator should be upgraded from 2-A to Low 1-C
For starters, the infinite-infinite multiverses are clearly stated to not be all of existence. The Spiral's multiverse is stated to be an echo of an even greater wheel. Meaning that existence is greater than an infinite ^ infinite multiverse. So we know 2-A is a lowball. Raven, Spider, and Bartleby, all have shown complete superiority over the multiverse, seeing it as complete insignificance, and can create, destroy, and reset existence as they see fit. Everyone inside the Spiral is an insignificant mortal to their true divine selves. A reminder that the multiverse is not all of existence. There is something even greater than it, and that these beings are beyond even that greater existence. That, and they are stated to be beyond the limited perception of mortals.
"But time is an illusion, look beyond it, and you will see that existence is a wheel. The Spiral itself is but an echo of this truth. Step off the wheel and see the great paradox, order and chaos, light, and shadow, outside our limited perceptions they are one"
In the case of the argument that this is flowery language. It is not. This is the plot for arc 4. Arc 4 revolves around these truths and Raven and co have shown superiority over their creation of the multiverse numerous times. The fact that the Spiral is not all of existence shows their scope is beyond the multiverse in the first place.
This isn't the main evidence for Low 1-C, the thing above it is, but the fact that the time butterfly is 4th dimensional, as its true name can only be pronounced and understood in a 4th-dimensional language, and that Raven and Spider transcend and have superiority over/view everyone in the Spiral as an insignificant mortal can also help towards the upgrade, as this would also apply to the time butterfly.
