Wizard101 6D

[KingTempest]

It's so sad that yall don't know what makes Low 1-C

That is 2-A

The part that is Low 1-C is that spiral being an echo of an even greater spiral

 

[Eseseso]

It's so sad that yall don't know what makes Low 1-C

That is 2-A

The part that is Low 1-C is that spiral being an echo of an even greater spiral

This.

And since the God Tiers transcend the "even greater spiral" completely, they should be 6-D.

 

[KingTempest]

no

 

[Eseseso]

no

But have you considered the following:

Yes

 

[Robo432343]

It's so sad that yall don't know what makes Low 1-C

That is 2-A

no bruh im using math to get Low 1-C

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[Robo432343]

bump

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[Robo432343]

if this gets accepted, then the players. "2-A with absorption" thing on his AP page will get removed

 

[Eseseso]

if this gets accepted, then the players. "2-A with absorption" thing on his AP page will get removed

Why? It scales to Morganthe's 2-A fraction of the Song of Creation, as the Player passively absorbed.

 

[Robo432343]

Why? It scales to Morganthe's 2-A fraction of the Song of Creation, as the Player passively absorbed.

coz the spiral won't be 2-A anymore, its proposing Low 1-C spiral
maybe im wrong

 

[Eseseso]

coz the spiral won't be 2-A anymore, its proposing Low 1-C spiral
maybe im wrong

Nah, the Spiral is the "echo" of the Low 1-C wheel.

 

[Robo432343]

bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Planck makes sense to me.

 

[Eseseso]

Me when all 3 involved staff are neutral: I'm not overwhelmed, I'm not underwhelmed. I'm just whelmed.

 

[Robo432343]

3 staff neutral = possibly rating

 

[Robo432343]

bump

 

[Robo432343]

guys

i changed the title of this thread

 

[Eseseso]

guys

i changed the title of this thread

...WHY.

 

[Georredannea15]

...WHY.

Maybe they'll look at 1-A Arceus...

 

[CloverDragon03]

guys

i changed the title of this thread

Can you please change the title? This is clickbait to the highest degree and it worked on me dammit

 

[Samael_010]

What did he mean by this

 

[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[Eseseso]

Can you please change the title? This is clickbait to the highest degree and it worked on me dammit

Any thoughts on 6D W101?

 

[CloverDragon03]

I don't know the verse at all so no

 

[Robo432343]

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[Eseseso]

Bump

 

[Ben_CleverName]

Huh. I didn't think VSBW was still interested in the verse.

Regarding characters being 6D, from what I recall, the reasoning was that the characters were treated as 5D for seeing the cosmology itself as a flattened circle/wheel, not simply for scaling to a cosmology that was itself 5D. It's been a while, but that's how I remember it going. I can see where 6D is coming from, but I will say with full certainty that the Creator isn't 7D. The Creator isn't even canon anymore and hasn't been since they revamped Wizard City's storyline, outright removing the only reference to them in the game. The lead writer for the game confirmed that this was an intentional decision:

The Creator text was a very very old set of quests that were written extremely early on, before the story had really taken shape. We'd veered away from a lot of those ideas, so rather than leave something we'd never clarify we opted to put down some hints at bigger things to come so new players would be forewarned about some of the major story stuff to come.

 

[Robo432343]

Huh. I didn't think VSBW was still interested in the verse.

Regarding characters being 6D, from what I recall, the reasoning was that the characters were treated as 5D for seeing the cosmology itself as a flattened circle/wheel, not simply for scaling to a cosmology that was itself 5D. It's been a while, but that's how I remember it going.

I don't even know what's happening anymore. Some of the profiles like Spiders for example look like they got the 5D rating for being able to unravel the 5D cosmology, but wouldn't they be 6D for being qualitatively superior to it?? Even the profile accepts that he exist beyond the 5D cosmology which is an echo of an even greater wheel of existence

I can see where 6D is coming from, but I will say with full certainty that the Creator isn't 7D. The Creator isn't even canon anymore and hasn't been since they revamped Wizard City's storyline, outright removing the only reference to them in the game. The lead writer for the game confirmed that this was an intentional decision:

Ok then, Creator's profile should probably be deleted

 

[Ben_CleverName]

I don't even know what's happening anymore. Some of the profiles like Spiders for example look like they got the 5D rating for being able to unravel the 5D cosmology, but wouldn't they be 6D for being qualitatively superior to it?? Even the profile accepts that he exist beyond the 5D cosmology which is an echo of an even greater wheel of existence

Ok then, Creator's profile should probably be deleted

Yeah... I don't remember who wrote that section on his profile, but it was probably Zenkai. If VSB thinks that the aforementioned details of the Spiral being an "echo" of a larger existence means 5D and that Spider and co seeing it as flat would be 6D, then it's probably fine as it is, but if it's just "Spider and co are 5D because they see Existence as flat" then it probably ought to be reworded. I'm not sure how this sort of thing should be handled as it is though due to 5D and 6D both being part of the same tier.

 

[Eseseso]

Yeah... I don't remember who wrote that section on his profile, but it was probably Zenkai. If VSB thinks that the aforementioned details of the Spiral being an "echo" of a larger existence means 5D and that Spider and co seeing it as flat would be 6D, then it's probably fine as it is, but if it's just "Spider and co are 5D because they see Existence as flat" then it probably ought to be reworded. I'm not sure how this sort of thing should be handled as it is though due to 5D and 6D both being part of the same tier.

The Wheel that sees the Infinite * 2-A Spiral as an echo is 5-D.

The people who are beyond the 5-D stuff and see it as a flattened wheel should be 6D.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

@Ultima_Reality What do you think about this? You were part of the discussion at the time.

 

[Eseseso]

@Ultima_Reality What do you think about this? You were part of the discussion at the time.

Pings don't work for non-staff.

Also, maybe we should ask Zenkai. He pops onto the site from time to time IIRC.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

Pings don't work for non-staff.

Also, maybe we should ask Zenkai. He pops onto the site from time to time IIRC.

That's news to me.

I have Zenkai added on my Discord. We talk a lot, but I don't know that he's interested in participating in these threads anymore.

 

[Robo432343]

I just need context of the statement made by koel and this might be good to apply

 

[Eseseso]

That's news to me.

I have Zenkai added on my Discord. We talk a lot, but I don't know that he's interested in participating in these threads anymore.

Ok, then.

Would also like to mention this to you:

6D for those beyond the cosmology (Spider, Raven, Aethyr Titan, etc.) is honestly pretty clear from what I read.

• Sees the 5-D cosmology as a flattened wheel.
• Unlimited compared to the limited 5-D cosmology
• Flat-out beyond the 5-D cosmology, are unbound by it and its flow of time, and look down on it.
• To quote Grandfather Spider's Vs profile:
  • (While mortals perceive time in a linear sense, Spider exists beyond the Wheel of Existence, which itself views linear time as an illusion and is unbound by it), so he is beyond a wheel which transcends time.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

I am at work right now, but I can discuss this later when I get off in a few hours.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

I just need context of the statement made by koel and this might be good to apply

You can read the full quest dialogue here. There's a similar statement in this quest that teases the Nothing.

 

[Ben_CleverName]

6D for those beyond the cosmology (Spider, Raven, Aethyr Titan, etc.) is honestly pretty clear from what I read.

• Sees the 5-D cosmology as a flattened wheel.
• Unlimited compared to the limited 5-D cosmology
• Flat-out beyond the 5-D cosmology, are unbound by it and its flow of time, and look down on it.
• To quote Grandfather Spider's Vs profile:
  • (While mortals perceive time in a linear sense, Spider exists beyond the Wheel of Existence, which itself views linear time as an illusion and is unbound by it), so he is beyond a wheel which transcends time.

I don't think any of that is necessarily wrong, I just don't know how many people would be OK with calling the characters 6D. The CRT in question was intended for 5D specifically.

Bartleby has a similar statement about his eyes transcending time, though you can argue the context is different for him because his eyes let him see through all of the past and future. So far, the only things that we know made it past his vision were the outcome of Raven & Spider's conflict (likely due to their relativity to each other and the fact that Raven created his eyes), Lemuria's disappearance (explained by it being shielded by an anti-magic cage), and Dasein, who is literal nothingness (Bartleby directly says that he can see all that is but that Dasein "never was".)

 

[Robo432343]

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