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6d wasn't accepted before for the same reasons so I don't think it should be accepted now
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Wizard101 6D
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I still support 6-D Wizard101, no way in heck they're Baseline 5-D.
Georredannea15
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I just stated that the context of the flat wheel is important, because it's not like seeing it 2D.
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not everything has to be R>F
Georredannea15
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But, since the issue here is seeing like a "flat wheel", there is a kind of R>F reference, but it is not exactly seeing like a "2-dimensional plane."
But it's okay, just call the staff and a few tier 1 expert staff and they decide
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at least we can all agree that the cosmology blog is supposed to be Low 1-C right?
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I asked Zenkai offsite. He said the cosmology was accepted to be 5-D and they scale to 5-D for unraveling the spiral
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I mean, with how consistently they are shown being beyond the 5D cosmology FRA, it makes little sense for them to only be 5D.
What would they be, 5D+?
The 4th statement is basically: Spider > 5-D Wheel of Existence (Is unbounded by linear time and views it as an illusion)
So he basically transcends a 5-D Wheel the same way the 5-D Wheel transcends space and time itself (this is when he has his heart).
What would they be, 5D+?
Most if not all of the above statements indicate a transcendence of the 5D "wheel".
The 4th statement is basically: Spider > 5-D Wheel of Existence (Is unbounded by linear time and views it as an illusion)
So he basically transcends a 5-D Wheel the same way the 5-D Wheel transcends space and time itself (this is when he has his heart).
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Half of those are abilities and the rest of them are just proof of scaling to 5D
It's so much harder to transcend dimensions and be in new dimensions than just "2 tons > 1 ton"
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what about viewing the 5D cosmology as a flat wheel
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Not enough without context
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you dont need context for something that blatant
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This exact statement was said in the previous thread and it got declined
Mark me as neutral
Mark me as neutral
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bro i know someone will say whataboutism to me but this is kinda like how umineko got a tier upgrade for viewing the cosmology as a chess board or something
why cant wizard101 have the same thing
why cant wizard101 have the same thing
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Without context seeing something as flat isn't enough to qualify as stated in faq as well.
It requires far more context to showcase the superiority over than just seeing it as flat because its possible to see something as flat without being higher dimensional or transcending it
It requires far more context to showcase the superiority over than just seeing it as flat because its possible to see something as flat without being higher dimensional or transcending it
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bro it makes sense why raven would see the cosmology as a flat wheel in terms of QS because she is one of the creators
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I was looking at the Wizard101 blog and it talks about the cosmology being 2-A when it was actually Low 1-C all this time.
Wizard101 level of 2-A
vsbattles.fandom.com
And Grandfather Spider's profile says this:
"However, even all of this is stated to be an echo of an even greater wheel of existence, which he exists beyond."
This would make grandfather spider 6D as well as all the other characters
Add this to the OP, IMO it's good supporting evidence.
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is there a scan for this?
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I mean, the original scans for those beyond the wheel indidate this.
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bro is a cool ass loser
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i hope that tier revision ultima made doesn't affect this thread
Serlock_Holmes
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Get it to 1-A
Georredannea15
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Lmao, That thread will most likely be concluded months later, and if it were accepted, Ant stated that there should be distinctive obligations and requirements for 1-A and qualitative superiority, according to specific situations. Rather than gathering all of them at a common point, efforts can be made to give them according to special situations.
Serlock_Holmes
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So no 1-A?
Georredannea15
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Maybe this system will be rejected, maybe 1-A will be given only to special, specific cases/contexts, it is still in the discussion stage, because there are staffs who agreed with the thread and those who do not. And at the same time, DT and Ultima have discussions about this system. (And you more or less know how long this discussions)
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At the moment, I'm trying to connect the dots of the verse reaching past an uncountably infinite number of timelines to reach the Low 1-C rating.
From there it's verifying QS between the Spiral and other realms.
From there it's verifying QS between the Spiral and other realms.
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every single bit of history is considered a parallel timeline
each grain of sand is a moment in the spirals history so each grain of sand represents a moment of the past which creates parallel timelines
grandmother raven said that that the sands are endless.
and then we have the sands of time which is an even greater extend of endless
this would make infinite sets of infinite timelines being created over and over
and then we have the reflection caves
each reflection cave leads to a reflection of the universe, making all infinite timelines reflected against each other
This would make it Low 1-C right??
and this is where the QS part comes in according to the blog
"The Cosmic Trio have been shown and are stated to be well transcended over any other characters in the game. This notion was explained in Empryea Part II. In fact, Raven compared her own true self to the likes of the Spiral. It was stated that there is the Spiral as a whole, but the Spiral is actually an echo of an even greater wheel. However, that wheel cannot hold the tr"ue power of Raven (Spider and Bartleby), as she is beyond even the wheel that is existence, and is superior to whoever exists within that wheel. "
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