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I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
Actually, The Doctor has at max faced High 1-C beings (Which are by default weaker than 4)
but he wouldn't need to directly fight Four. He only needs to fight donut with the factor of Four. tho tbh it is a little cheat-y, so I'm still trying to think of somebody that can beat four without time travel
 
He didn't though. If Four transcends. He literally removes himself from the field. So he loses. And Mario can incapacitate him with time or wall breaking haxs
 
Buttersamuri said:
He didn't though. If Four transcends. He literally removes himself from the field. So he loses. And Mario can incapacitate him with time or wall breaking haxs
No, Four transcending means he isn't self BFR'd, that means his existence is so great that Mario can't even do anything. Four can just poke the universe of the Show and nuke it while he is unharmed
 
James Plays 4 Games said:
But this isn't a bloodlusted match. Neither Four or the character of your choice are.
He can't be in it if it's not Bloodlusted. I said he can only fight if Bloodlusted
 
Regardless. Mario should be removed. He won't really works in the fight if Bloodlusted. Which was what I said. I said he could win If Bloodlusted
 
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
Also, if Factor of Four Donut is being used, doesn't this mean he is ALSO 1-B
no. Donut, although he has the factor of Four, has a far more limited move set and is significantly less powerful. For instance, he lacks the ability to revive or eliminate characters, and he's certainly not 44-D
 
I'm Blue daba dee daba die said:
Also, if Factor of Four Donut is being used, doesn't this mean he is ALSO 1-B
This is a no go. your comment from earlier

"that is the actual Four (Who is 3-D, just like the contestants, so he is able to be affected)"

4 is only 44D because he specifically is stated to be. But that's special to him and only him
 
anyway, either way, he only really needs to kill firey, since without firey, Four wouldn't have been able to be taken out of Donut
 
And again. Remove Lou for the reasons I said. Four transcending makes him lose. He leaves the fight and can't interact with Mario anymore. So he loses when doing that.
 
thats still not what transcending means. consider that there's a 2D plane with a stick figure that you need to fight. you can be partially in the 2D plane without abandoning the fight. Also, you can leave the fight provided you come back within a certain threshhold so as to not be considered to be BFR'd. Four could essentially step out of the 3D plane and then reach his finger in to poke mario and kill him
 
FRIMI said:
thats still not what transcending means. consider that there's a 2D plane with a stick figure that you need to fight. you can be partially in the 2D plane without abandoning the fight. Also, you can leave the fight provided you come back within a certain threshhold so as to not be considered to be BFR'd. Four could essentially step out of the 3D plane and then reach his finger in to poke mario and kill him
To my knowledge that's correct.
 
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