1-A tier

[Hyodou]

Hey, if a 1-A character were to be hit with a nonexistence that can destroy virtually anything, would that be enough to hurt or even killed them ?????

 

[Antvasima]

Probably not if it was nonexistence tied to time and space.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Tier 1-A is kinda beyond logic, so the answer is probably will always be probably.

 

[Hyodou]

How about High 1-A character ????? Like Yog-Sothoth for example.

 

[Anonimo77]

I think the only way to beat 1-A is being high 1-A or 0.

 

[Hyodou]

I would agree with the High 1-A beating normal and regular 1-A.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that nonexistence is just one of the many concepts that Yog-Sothoth completely embodies.

 

[Hyodou]

Does it ever state that nonexistence is something that he also embodies ????

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, but you will have to ask Azathoth (the admin).

 

[Hyodou]

I think he had already answer that question when he said that even if a character destroy infinite dimension and including everything outside of it, it would be nothing more than trimmming a toenail out of Yog-Sothoth. That is how massive he is.

Yeah that is what he said.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I think he had already answer that question when he said that even if a character destroy infinite dimension and including everything outside of it, it would be nothing more than trimmming a toenail out of Yog-Sothoth. That is how massive he is.
Yeah that is what he said.

Pretty much, yeah. Dunno what this conversation is about, though. Just saw my name.

 

[Hyodou]

Sorry if we got side track to Yog-Sothoth as my previous question was if a 1-A character can be killed or be hurt by a nonexistence attack that can destroy virtually anything.

 

[Antvasima]

As I replied, it depends on the type of nonexistence attack.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

As Ant said, it depends on what you mean by "nonexistence", though a good majority of them won't do anything.

 

[Hyodou]

I mean by the attack that can go beyond space and time altogether.

 

[Anonimo77]

If the majority of them won't do anything, what would do something?

 

[Antvasima]

If it is an attack beyond space and time, it would depend on whether the similarly beyond space and time entity is higher up the scale or not. We cannot properly quantify beings of this level.

 

[Hyodou]

Then I guess it should be unknown then.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

To affect 1-A beings, you pretty much have to show the attack is beyond logic, comprehension, and dimensional space, altogether. And even then, since 1-A is one of the most massive categories, it's not a guarantee.

 

[Antvasima]

Exactly.

 

[Hyodou]

When a character becoming a 1-A character, then its pretty much impossible to kill them in anyway right ???? Only Tier 0 could beat a team of High 1-A and 1-A effortlessly.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

When a character becoming a 1-A character, then its pretty much impossible to kill them in anyway right ???? Only Tier 0 could beat a team of High 1-A and 1-A effortlessly.

0 vs High 1-A is actually almost always impossible to define due to them being pretty much the same thing unless they're from the same verse.

 

[Anonimo77]

So, it's possible to a high 1-A to defeat a 0?

 

[Antvasima]

True enough. A High 1-A is either not tier 0 on account of another character being higher, or having some minor limitation.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Impossible to determine. "Defeat" usually isn't an option for most things that high, unless it's something that happens under incredibly specific circumstances (i.e. Hajun).

 

[Anonimo77]

Ok.

 

[Hyodou]

Okay, so to make it short. It sound like this right: Tier 0 vs High 1-A in the same verse: Tier 0 wins Tier 0 vs High 1-A from a different verse: Impossible to know.

Is that correct or no ???

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Okay, so to make it short. It sound like this right:
Tier 0 vs High 1-A in the same verse: Tier 0 wins Tier 0 vs High 1-A from a different verse: Impossible to know.

Is that correct or no ???

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[Anonimo77]

So, high 1-A is basically 0, with the exception of the 0 from his verse.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Basically. It's a grey area due to how completely beyond comprehension things get at that level.

 

[Anonimo77]

Ok.

 

[Hyodou]

If a character killed their own author then it wouldnt put them anywhere near Tier 1-A right ????

 

[Antvasima]

They can only "kill" a fictionalised pretend version of the author. They are still just words, drawings, or computer simulations.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

If a character killed their own author then it wouldnt put them anywhere near Tier 1-A right ????

author in RL? then nope, it's doesn't mean anything.

 

[Hyodou]

Thanks a lot for the answer.

 

[A6colute]

If a character killed their own author then it wouldnt put them anywhere near Tier 1-A right ????

No. Even tier 10 can do it.

And about high 1-A and 0... It's impossible to determine only if in verse where 0 tier character exists doesn't exist any high 1-A. But if we have 0 >>>>> high 1-A, then this 0 can defeat high 1-A from other verses. Why not?

 

[Antvasima]

No problem.

 

[Anonimo77]

If a character somehow kill his author, I wouldn't question if he is 1-A or not, I would question how a fictional character just killed someone in real life.

 

[A6colute]

I would question how a fictional character just killed someone in real life.

It's fiction. Impossible is possible.

 

[Krenniko]

Even if a character reach to hit the fourth wall enough hard to actually "destroy" it, making him able to enter in our universe and kill is own maker, that would just make him an extreme powerfull furth wall breaker, not a tier 1 character. He would also be a problem for our society and maibe universe, if the fourth wall remains open.