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dc cosmology

  1. Weaver261

    DC Cosmology becomes even more messy

    This is a discussion thread to talk about the changes that Flash new comics bring into the DC Cosmology. And to explore the ideas to how are we gonna treat these new statements. Everything started with Flash 2023 comic which introduced the new beings and new plane of existences revolving around...
  2. Elizio33

    A very little revision of Doctor Manhattan

    From Doctor Manhattan's profile: High Complex Multiverse level with powers (The Justice League with his powers stalemated Perpetua in a clash which burned out the Sun with Lex Luthor saying Wonder Woman would have won if she hadn't hesitated) Although this is very good, there should be a...
  3. Ramasugita11

    Unification of DC cosmology by applying the omniverse concept

    Supreme beings GOD-Level:The overvoid/The Original Presence, The source and The Great Darkness. HIGH-Level:The Cosmic raptor, the hands, the Chronicler. MID-Level:Imps 5D, Monitor nil, Sphere of the gods. LOW-Level: Physical beings. Perpetua, she is the personification of creation and the first...
  4. Elizio33

    Crisis Cosmology: Scaling Characters

    This thread is very simple, nothing too complicated or too long. Since the Crisis Cosmology thread was accepted and applied to the DC Cosmology blog, the time has come to scale the characters from the Crisis Cosmology. Here's how characters scaling to the Crisis Cosmology should be: Nabu...
  5. PrinceStories

    DC cosmology questions

    I've been reading the current DC comics cosmology page for a long time https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Comics_Cosmology But I'm confused about the Vertigo cosmology section because, I saw the justifications only taken from pre-black label DC vertigo comics aka only stuck to Sandman...
  6. EmperorRorepmeThree

    DC Cosmology General Discussion

    I made this thread just to discuss DC's cosmology in general, not to propose any changes, feel free to comment about any concerns, questions, or things of interest. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Comics_Cosmology
  7. IdiosyncraticLawyer

    He-Man Downgrade (Low 1-C→2-A)

    He-Man's Low 1-C justification relies on cross-scaling to DC's Hypertime, which we no longer consider Low 1-C, only 2-A, so He-Man's Low 1-C ratings should be removed, leaving only the current 2-A ratings.
  8. RanaProGamer

    Which DC Cosmology Does Doom Patrol Have?

    Two years ago, I made this thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/dc-comics-doom-patrol-crt.113554/ The thread was closed due to an upcoming cosmology split revision. Now that it's done, I want to make another thread for Doom Patrol but this time with the right cosmology, the issue is I don't...
  9. IdiosyncraticLawyer

    DC J.M. DeMatteis Cosmology Downgrade

    Continuing from this discussion in the DC general discussion thread, J.M. DeMatteis' DC cosmology is tiered dubiously. Heaven Heaven is a Low 1-C structure, as it transcends the multiverse's days and places, which doesn't need to be changed. However, the totality of creation is High 1-B, which...
  10. Cyber_VERGIL

    Why have the power levels of Lucifer and many other characters from the DC Comics dropped so much?

    Why have the power levels of Lucifer and many other characters from the DC Comics dropped so much? Their level used to be 1-A, but now they're barely 1-C.
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    • dc comics dc cosmology lucifer morningstar (dc comics) the batman who laughs the darkest knight
    • Replies: 3
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  11. Slenderblak

    the dc universe is really 1-c only??

    this is the hugest downgrade i ever seen after the umineko one, what happened?
  12. VeryGoofyToddler2

    Lucifer's Creation “infinite dimension”

    So I was looking over the revision project when something popped into my mind. Lucifer’s Creation might have infinite dimensions. As we know Mike Carey explicitly states that he sees Universe and Multiverse as synonymous to describe an all-encompassing Creation. Highlighting that the Universe...
  13. Elizio33

    "Infinite" according to DC Comics....

    Okay, the title might sound a little confusing and a lot of you might disagree with that, but my main issue with the term infinite in DC Comics is that it's often used in a contradictory way, let me explain to you. Infinite is a term used to describe something having no limits or boundaries in...
  14. Thehonestone

    DC is massively undersold on this wiki

    I'm not even that big a fan of comics and I know that there are characters and concepts that straight up transcend classification entirely in DC. The fact that Twin Peaks and SCP are tier 0 but DC isn't is a travesty, even though it has mountains of evidence for it being that level that's almost...
  15. Pizzabox492

    Joker vs Lucifer Morningstar

    Joker fights an Archangel Speed equalized Both in character True end game key is used, has Satanael as main persona but can use other personas if needed Layers equalized 1-A vs 1-A Who wins?
    • Pizzabox492
    • Thread
    • dc comics dc cosmology joker (persona 5) lucifer morningstar (dc comics) megami tensei ren amamiya shin megami tensei smt
    • Replies: 14
    • Forum: Fun and Games
  16. Pizzabox492

    Joker vs Lucifer Morningstar

    Joker fights an Archangel Speed equalized Both in character True end game key is used, has Satanael as main persona but can use other personas if needed 1-A vs 1-A Who wins?
    • Pizzabox492
    • Thread
    • dc comics dc cosmology joker (persona 5) lucifer morningstar (dc comics) megami tensei persona (verse) ren amamiya shin megami tensei smt
    • Replies: 18
    • Forum: Fun and Games
  17. VeryGoofyToddler2

    DC Comics - Lucifer Morningstar Upgrade

    Hello in today’s content revision I think we should look over Lucifer Morningstar and why he deserves High 1-A. Here is one on Yahweh and why he deserves it. Yahweh This is the basis of how DC Vertigo is structured, remember Vertigo is written differently from the rest of DC. Vertigo down to...
    • VeryGoofyToddler2
    • Thread
    • dc comics dc cosmology dc/vertigo comics endless lucifer morningstar (dc comics) michael demiurgos the presence
    • Replies: 44
    • Forum: Content Revision
  18. VeryGoofyToddler2

    The Presence(Yahweh) Upgrade

    Specifically; Yahweh, Lucifer, and Michael. I will go over Lucifer as Michael another time. The Presence/Yahweh Lucifer Morningstar Michael Demiurgos Yahweh: To start it off let’s talk about Yahweh. To first start, Yahweh is Infinite and Eternal. Infinite and Eternal (Lucifer Vol.1 #75)...
    • VeryGoofyToddler2
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    • dc comics dc cosmology dream of the endless endless lucifer morningstar (dc comics) michael demiurgos the presence
    • Replies: 42
    • Forum: Content Revision
  19. Unwanted

    DC's Current Cosmology Revision Thread

    This thread I made to list the current cosmology of DC and where it fits in the tiering system. I've also made this because I don't agree with dividing the DC cosmology to several cosmologies because it creates more problems than it solves, like: 1- DC doesn't consider the stories of Snyder...
  20. Krazydog050

    Dc Verse Downgrade!

    This Crt is About Dc Verse that should be Downgrade for a long time ago and after new Description tiering system explain about 1-A|Outerverse level that said Characters who can affect objects with a number of dimensions equal to the cardinal aleph-2. Which Dc Didn't even have an Infinite...
    • Krazydog050
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    • dc comics dc cosmology lucifer morningstar (dc comics) the presence the writer
    • Replies: 25
    • Forum: Content Revision
  21. Unwanted

    Splitting The DC Cosmology Is Not Necessary

    I've read the DC verse splitting page, and I think the reasons for its existence are trivial and exaggerated. I think there's another way instead of making 5 or 6 different versions of the Presence, Overvoid, Source, etc. with each of them having a different tier. And the number will only...

  22. DC Cosmology mixed with Fortnite

    I haven't heard this talked about much but in Scott Snyder's Batman/Fortnite Foundation #1 we're told of how the many different multiverses (possibly both in DC and outside) are formed. It's through the Zero Point, a nexus/orb in Fortnite that can be used to access different realities, it's how...
  23. Unwanted

    New Evidence the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is an aspect of the Presence

    Justice League Incarnate came with information about the origins of creation and the Overvoid. It clarified that the Overvoid/Monitor-Mind is in reality, only the light of the Presence being all there is, without darkness. Here is the story: In the beginning before creation and the light...
    • Unwanted
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    • dc comics dc cosmology monitor-mind the overvoid the great evil beast the presence
    • Replies: 79
    • Forum: General Discussion
  24. Sus

    DC

    Can someone link me the blog of the uncomposite cosmology
    • Sus
    • Thread
    • dc animated movies (universe) dc animated universe dc comics dc cosmology dc extended universe dc universe online dc.... dc/vertigo comics dcau dceu
    • Replies: 3
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  25. Teezar

    DC comics discussion thread.

    Cause why not.
  26. Tarang123

    Overvoid Downgrade

    So...yeah. So, I was looking at the Overvoid page again, and the justification just never really made any sense. It might, for 1A. Not High 1A, tho. Here is the link to that. Anyway, let's get started. (The Monitor-Mind is the unconscious void of nothingness that lies as the background of...
  27. Confluctor

    DC Comics Speedsters/Speed Force abilities page

    I was thinking of making a page for standard Speed Force/Flashes abilities. Well, I say standard, but it should include most of the things they can achieve via the Speed Force. This can also be used to explain some of their feats with calcs/scans. We can discuss the abilities and citations...
    • Confluctor
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    • dc comics dc cosmology flash (barry allen) (post-crisis) flash (barry allen) (post-flashpoint) flash (wally west) (post-crisis) flash (wally west) (rebirth)
    • Replies: 12
    • Forum: General Discussion
  28. Xearsay

    Why are we separating DC?

    Why are we attempting to separate DC into parts when the verse treats itself as one cosmology? I get that there’s a few inconsistencies but I don’t see why that’s a reason to pick a part the verse and use headcanon to create “separate cosmologies” that don’t actually exist. Just really looking...
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