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  1. SSBXeno573

    Heroes and Xenoverse speed revisited

    I agree with this
  2. SSBXeno573

    Shulk vs Mechikabura

    2-B versions Speed equalized Mechikabura: Shulk:
  3. SSBXeno573

    Mechikabura vs Palkia

    Well given the recent chapters/UVMs, we learnt that he fused with far more than the Demon Realm but rather a large majority of history/time/multiverse. Also, Demon Realm is a low 2-C Realm in DBH as it has its own time scroll, which represents a timeline.
  4. SSBXeno573

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 87

    Boo arc > Cell arc imo. Better themes and more solid character arcs. And Saiyan arc had the best ending. Not because it ended with a "shout" like a beam struggle but because it ended with a whimper.
  5. SSBXeno573

    Demigra Law Manipulation and Goku resistances

    I agree
  6. SSBXeno573

    Mechikabura Upgrades

    BFR, Void Manipulation and Absorption After he absorbed the 10 million year old black hole, he was passively absorbing everything around him including time and history along with the Time Patrol and Demon Gods and sends them to a void within himself. As seen here Trunks (Future): What is...
  7. SSBXeno573

    Mechikabura vs Palkia

    Dark King Mechikabura vs True Form Mechikabura: Palkia:
  8. SSBXeno573

    What is a verse you don't like, but the majority of people do like?

    One piece: mainly because of overly histrionic monologues about the characters' own wallowing in emotional angst and over the top sappy and maudlin wailing and sobbing about "friendship". And its characterization: I'm sorry, but I simply DO NOT agree with the overwhelming majority of the...
  9. SSBXeno573

    Barney Vs. DBS Goku: The redux

    Goku outranges. Barney can't transmute from 4km. Goku slaps
  10. SSBXeno573

    Top 5 Smartest Characters for Every Tier

    Never said he was. I just put him n1 because the tier is empty Also I think he's smarter than Towa. Towa's confirmed to be a scientist knowledgeable in various fields of science such as biomechanical engineering, genetic engineering, and biology. And in any case Extraordinary Genius > Genius
  11. SSBXeno573

    Future Warrior revision

    If Demigra was 2-B in base, it would make no sense for him to absorb Tokitoki. The reason he absorbed Tokitoki was to destroy the multiverse. If he could've done it in base, there would be no need. Tokitoki's egg can only spawn a single timeline.
  12. SSBXeno573

    Future Warrior revision

    The problem with Future Warrior being2-B at this point is that not only would it be an outlier if it was legit, but would put base Demigra on 2-B which is heavily contradicted by his showings and statements.
  13. SSBXeno573

    Top 5 Smartest Characters for Every Tier

    Seth isn't the smartest 2-B There's Oryx, the Taken King, Grandfather Spider, Towa, Xue Ying etc. Also, Kurama (Yu Yu Hakusho) for 6-A
  14. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    Wow.. so Knuckles wincon when they were assumed in the same ballpark was memory manipulation and reality warping which (as described by Maverick) are "in-character" but as soon as Goku gets the AP advantage... it has been revealed that they are hardly used. There's definitely dishonesty here. smh.
  15. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    Apparently Knuckles has reality warping and memory manipulation as a wincon. So it's not a stomp, just decisive.
  16. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    Yet people still bandwagoning Knuckles... (sigh) This is why I hate debating in these types of threads where bias prevails over actual arguments...
  17. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    Btw, what are Knuckles wincon before he gets oneshot?
  18. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    The only actual feats for Knuckles you have presented is standard dodging projectiles, which to be frank, is unimpressive on such a level. "Combat genius" is a vague term by itself without any feats. King Choppa in DB was described as a martial arts genius who has trained for his whole life but...
  19. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    Any scans? How does he do this? And how in-character is it?
  20. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    Goku is still more skilled as he has actual feats of skill compared to just "trained in combat as a kid" (which is already quite standard for OG DB characters whom Goku outskills) Predicts with his eyes closed, can read and preempt the movements of a skilled assassain as a kid, knew what Tien...
  21. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    What meaningful skill feats does Knuckles have? Goku has more experience, has trained in various martial arts since he was a child, can read and preempt the movements of martial artists with more battle experience than him(such as Tao Pai Pai) and he did all this before he knew ki/emotion...
  22. SSBXeno573

    Thanos vs goku time

    >Reading opponents techniques to prempt them >Being trained in multiple martial arts since childhood >Can discern weaknesses in enemy attacks after seeing them once >Defeated masters of various martial arts when he was a kid Now I'm going to ask for skill feats from these so-called "skilled...
  23. SSBXeno573

    Thanos vs goku time

    Giving Goku mid-diff. Goku has a minor AP advantage but an advantage nonetheless. Furthermore Goku was trained in multiple martial arts and has shown to be able to read movements to preempt enemy attacks even before he learned Ki sensing. With Ki sensing, it is described as "seeing all" and can...
  24. SSBXeno573

    Piccolo vs MCU Thanos

    Piccolo is definitely skilled. Saying that he would get dominated in CQC is overestimating Thanos by a lot. But ok.
  25. SSBXeno573

    Sakazuki vs Natsu

    Akainu FRA
  26. SSBXeno573

    Suiryu vs Son Goku

    Vote counted
  27. SSBXeno573

    Suiryu vs Son Goku

    Speed =ized 7-B versions Son Goku (Dragon Ball): 1 Suiryu (One Punch Man): Incon;
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  28. SSBXeno573

    Demigra revision

    It'd probably be either 3-A or Low 2-C.
  29. SSBXeno573

    Knuckles vs Son Goku

    Goku pretty much outskills and destroys Knuckles in CQC along with being a higher level of 4-B. So my vote is on Goku for now.
  30. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    In any cas, no matter the outcome, this match will probably be null as Demigra's losing his 4-A key and either becoming 3-A, Low 2-C or 2-B.
  31. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    That would be my fault. Demigra's Profile was without tabbers separating keys in his P&A at one point so I asked an admin to cleanup the profile by adding keys and put intangibility in the 2-B key instead of the 4-A one.
  32. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    You're right, they did get out the mind control... after getting the shit beat out of them to the point of incapacitation but, ok. FW beats the shit out of them until they are incapped and then the mind control is gone after they awake. The willpower point is pure conjecture on your end...
  33. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    >Demigra's mindhax is ineffective against people with a degree of willpower Blatantly false and it seems you're merely making stuff up to suit your argument at this point. Some of the most-willed people such as Gohan succumbed to it and people such as Vegeta who has escaped babidi's mindhax via...
  34. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    Being able to hit an intangible =/= necessarily mean you can freeze one. Plus, there are different varieties of intangibility, hence why I'm asking for feats. For example, being able to affect someone with elemental intangibility or even immaterial intangibility may not translate to affecting...
  35. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    Also, evidence that Kirito's ice can freeze intangibles?
  36. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    The proof is the fact that it visually is Villainous Mode. Just like how a form like Super Saiyan is indicative by its yellow hair and blue/green eyes, Villainous Mode is indicative by its purple aura and red eyes. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, well... Villainous Mode in and...
  37. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    Furthermore, FW2 has recently gained access to induce Villainous Mode and here is the description here. So VM is definitely Mind Manip
  38. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    No. Villainous Mode is mind hax and is consistently treated as such. The only difference between Baby and Piccolo is that Piccolo was stated to lose his sanity while he was being mind controlled Furthermore, every instance Villainous Mode is used, it has shownd some property of mind...
  39. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    Can his ice interact with intagibles? And he did mind haxx Baby after his death tough. We clearly see Baby and the Evil Shenrons be induced by Villainous mode. Furthermore, there's further confirmation in DBH that Demigra's Dark Energy acts on its own and can so stuff.
  40. SSBXeno573

    Kirito vs Demigra

    Incon at worst for Demigra tbh. In this form, Demigra uses intangibility + invisibility in character before mindhaxing so he doesn't get oneshot by stronger opponents (An example would be against Beerus or against Piccolo). So that stops him from being insta-frozen Furthermore, Dark...
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