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  1. Penguinkingpin

    Gorgon vs SCP-2470

    Clear cut choice for me here chief, Gorgon FRA.
  2. Penguinkingpin

    Who Is the Strongest Avenger?

    So, are Strange and Infinity Thor with Stormbreaker gonna scale to the 5-A cause of fighting Thanos with the incomplete infinity gauntlet?
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    Mortal Kombat Revisions and Upgrades. Spoilers for Mortal Kombat 11

    Oh, thought we could scale them to her on their merit of all of them being Elder Gods, so...my b.
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    Mortal Kombat Revisions and Upgrades. Spoilers for Mortal Kombat 11

    So, small question, will Raiden, Fujin, and Shinnok scale to Cetrion?
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    Scaling of Greek Gods in GOW

    Following the revisions and upgrades in the GOW series, I noticed some scaling issues within the series and wanted to propose this question. Following the upgrades, I ask the question if gods/goddesses/entities such as Artemis , Hermes, Hephaestus, and Perses should scale to Ares, Helios, or...
  6. Penguinkingpin

    Jesus VS Satan

    How. Ok, well, consider what I previously said invalidated since High 1-A doesn't exist.
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    Jesus VS Satan

    Alright, my bad, I was wrong on the Lucifer 1-A but let me rationalize my argument for Lorkhan being stronger lies within the cosmology of The Elder Scrolls and how their god tiers work. Before existence at all, within the dreams of The Godhead ((who would likely be Tier 0)), there were two...
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    Jesus VS Satan

    Well, if I'm not mistaken, Lorkhan is far above the regular Et'ada who are baseline 1-A as stated him being the first and oldest of the Et'ada while Lucifer is just 1-A. Lorkhan's regen is true godly while Lucifer is high godly. Both have very similar capabilities and powers in being able to...
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    Bill Cipher Dreamscape Key and Other Upgrades

    How they died to either is confusing because if they were pandimensional as said, time wouldn't be applied to them for existing above it and the impact wouldn't have enough force to kill them
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    Bill Cipher Dreamscape Key and Other Upgrades

    Do we even bother bringing up the pandimensional aliens or the axolotl?
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    Bill Cipher Dreamscape Key and Other Upgrades

    The logic they used is that "a second dimensional being destroyed his home second dimension reality so it made him a higher dimensional being, far beyond human comprehension." That's the only logic I could find in it, having a second-dimensional being going from second-dimensional capability to...
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    Bill Cipher Dreamscape Key and Other Upgrades

    Oh, I thought we were discussing Bill post destruction of his home realm, not in the dreamscape. My apologies, yes, BIll in Dreamscape is 11-A, unbound and full power Bill is High 3-A - Low 2-C to 2-A.
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    Bill Cipher Dreamscape Key and Other Upgrades

    God, it's been a long time since I've been involved on this wiki but I've been called and I will answer. Alright, so, 2D Bill was a thing but that it's no longer applicable because it was stated during Weirdmageddon 1 that in regards to his current form and his current power, Bill said he...
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    @Woke. Actually, that makes sense. So, tier 4-B in the tangible realm, tier 2-? when inside their respective reality.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Then I guess we say that the Vex Minds aren't tier 2 unless they're inside their respective vault/realm. Atheon would only be tier 4-B outside the vault and Panoptes would only be tier 2 inside the simulation forest.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    @Wokistan. True, but the Guardian's have Light, which grants them paracasual abilities not replicable unless they encounter another paracasual entity such as the Taken and Hive Gods.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Well, in the most recent DLC release, Forsaken, we see that the Ascendent Realm can impact the tangible universe as when Riven began controlling the taken and corrupting the Scorn.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Another addition to the PIS machine, how were the SIVA infected fallen able to fight the Post-Ascension Guardians? Just PIS.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Once more, PIS.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Yes they don't become the Taken King, but that doesn't mean they don't retain the power they earned through Sword Logic. In fact, it would make less sense if they didn't retain the power, since that's how Sword Logic works. The way Oryx became so powerful was by killing Akka, A Hive Worm God.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    A quote from grimoire says otherwise. The Guardian(s) are explicitly told by Oryx, "You are a God now."
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Why shouldn't the Guardians scale to Ascendent Oryx? They ascended to his realm, and defeated him in his throne room, like they did with Crota.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Issue is, how would the Guardian(s) struggle against Penoptes, a Vex Mind, who are inferior to the Hive Worm Gods, when the Guardian(s) defeated Worm Gods such as Crota and Oryx, they even defeated Atheon before fighting Penoptes. I think the Guardian struggling against Penoptes is a case of PIS...
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    @Wokistan. Uldren, he did kill Cayde.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    I highly disagree with Osiris being superior, we don't have much context of how powerful he is, we've seen him fight against Ponoptes and that's it. So he should scale to Ponoptes, not the Guardians
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    Oryx, The Guardian(s), Riven, Xol, The Awoken, The Worm Gods, The Scorned, and The Taken all scale above the Vex due to the Vex being unable to replicate them , more specifically, The Vex can't replicate Light or Darkness.
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    A lazy man and his gigantic text (Guardian Downgrade and Additions)

    @Galaxian So, this is something I've seen and something I have a major issue with. Oryx at his strongest is low 2-C, possibly higher. But the Vex Minds are 2-A. It's been explicitly stated that the way the Vex became so strong was that they mimicked the Hive's Sword Logic and Worship of Worms ...
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    Worm Gods and Vex Minds

    So, this is something I've seen and something I have a major issue with. Oryx at his strongest is low 2-C, possibly higher. But the Vex Minds are 2-A. It's been explicitly stated that the way the Vex became so strong was that they mimicked the Hive's Sword Logic and Worship of Worms . It's also...
  29. Penguinkingpin

    Make Borderlands Great Again! (Massive Borderlands Revision)

    This needs much more attention. There was a Borderlands revision in the far past but it's calcs were lost and forgotten to time, these revisions bring much needed life into the verse.
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    New staff promotions

    Ey, that's pretty good...Memes and Jokes aside, congrats on the promotions, they are well deserved. Shoutout to Kep here for obvious reasons.
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    Local Bug Man Fights Some Spartans From Halo and Then Explodes (Oryx Revisions)

    Yeah, I agree, that looks pretty good.
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    Local Bug Man Fights Some Spartans From Halo and Then Explodes (Oryx Revisions)

    Another source of information that is coming out soon is the Grimoire Lore Book
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    Explaining The Situation

    "cant really hurt anyone unless its been exposed." Yes, because leaking images of a wiki member and their family, more importantly, their INFANT CHILD, on a server dedicated to hating the VSBW wiki members, doesn't expose them.
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    Explaining The Situation

    "but as long as they dont take out anything on the wiki." Yes, because creating sockpuppets to tell members of the wiki to kill themselves isn't dentrimental at all.
  35. Penguinkingpin

    Explaining The Situation

    What in the fresh hell. All I have to say. What really hurts the most out of all of this is the amount of autism jokes. Like, I try to keep this on the low key but I have Asperger's syndrome, who do these ignorant jerks think they are that they can say stuff like that and expect to be exempted...
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    Goodbye

    Goodbye my friend, I wish you nothing but success and happiness wherever your travels take you uvu
  37. Penguinkingpin

    Local Bug Man Fights Some Spartans From Halo and Then Explodes (Oryx Revisions)

    Well, we've observed in the series that the Vex became as strong as they did through the use of the Hive Sword Logic, and with the upcoming expansion, the Fallen have changed into something more powerful and twisted through repeated deaths and resurrections as well as the use of a corrupted form...
  38. Penguinkingpin

    Strongest Western Verse (excluding Marvel, DC, and Image)

    Ye ole Secure Contain Protect Foundation has some good power to it. It has a good number of Tier 1's and some pretty haxxed characters to it.
  39. Penguinkingpin

    Jesus VS Moses

    It confuses me as well.
  40. Penguinkingpin

    Jesus VS Moses

    Ok, now I have to ask this question, Moses' gets his power from God himself, would God allow Moses to use the Plague of the Firstborn ((Kills the Firstborn child)) on Jesus? Because if he did, then Moses could actually do something to hurt Jesus. Though Jesus would just regenerate again. So...
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