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Actually there are more characters. Sukuna, while he doesn't put up a barrier for his domain, has a much smaller radius than a mountain or island. Also the Finger Bearers have domains that do not have sizes that support more power larger size.
No. Even if you use Earthquake, since there isn't really any damage beyond the impact zone, you'll only get something around Magnitude 4-5 at best. Which by Site standards is City Block Level to Multi-City Block.
Not City level.
That obviously depends on how you scale Jogo's domain.
And Dagon's domain as well.
It also doesn't means that the author is using the same method of internal powerscaling as this site does.
The author for instance may not be considering the size of the domain and the things in there to matter...
Another example is that the first Finger Bearer had a huge unfinished domain with multiple rooms and corridors of twisted metal and infrastructure. The second Finger Bearer was in a much smaller cave, despite the second one being stronger.
I just don't agree with Domains mattering for AP
Why...
I just don't think the size of domains necessarily means their power, nor characters being stronger than another means that they have to have larger domains.
No, no. It's not resolved. You are literally trying to ram through nonsense.
All these calculations that are made using fallacies and assumptions are going to get challenged.
Stop getting upset that people are calling you on it.
I just don't get how this is okay.
How does a calculation get to assume that Jogo created a small mountain, with the actual internal volume of a literal small mountain.
We don't see that on panel.
What we see is much much smaller than that.
The assumption that Jogo is creating a literal...
While I don't mind Jogo being Low 7-B
What is the justification for this?
Also is someone going to recalculate the Finger Bearer cave thing?
To be honest I don't really care for it as a usable feat, because of how it differs in the manga/anima and because of the angles involved and the fact...
It is resolved. Hanami > Jogo Durability.
And there are various characters that scale.
Kamo using Flowing Red Scale and Piercing Blood
Maki using Playful Cloud
Megumi using Divine Dog: Totality
Yuji
Todo
Before that
Maki did not scale with Miwa's Sword the sword also broke
Megumi also did not...
Just because you train someone, doesn't mean you are stronger than them, you can be teaching them technique and posture.
Maki is physically stronger than Megumi. But he has Cursed Energy so and ends up scaling higher than her.
Though this can be made up for when she uses a powerful Cursed...
The issue I have, is it is TRUE that Jogo > Dagon.
But just because Dagon creates a "mountain level" domain, doesn't mean Dagon's attacks are mountain Level.
Necessarily because Maki takes hits from Dagon inside the Domain both from fish and from a kick, you'd have to say Maki is Mountain Level...
Indeed I am such a person who disagrees.
Hanami has higher dura can take more punishment.
They have similar AP but Hanami has higher Dura. This is from WoG.
If it breaks the scaling, that means the scaling is wrong.
Time to rethink it with the WoG statement in mind.
It should also be noted...
Then I think we have to reject Dagon's Domain being Mountain level.
OR reject Base Jogo scaling above Domain Dagon.
Because this scaling chain results in Mountain Level Maki, Kamo, Megumi and what not.
Hanami Dura > Jogo Dura, this is fact from the canon.
Jogo would die from the same Beating...
On this site you don't have to destroy a mountain to be mountain level.
It can get a bit wonky, but magic and powers do that in fiction.
That said, I don't really agree with mountain scaling to AP aside from Domain and what not.
For instance the Meteor that Jogo unleashes, hits the ground and...
I was busy most of yesterday and I didn't expect people to accept things that I see as questionable to this degree.
I pushed back on the Finger Bearer Calculation because it is very difficult to accurately scale that one.
The issue with shadows not necessarily being equal to water
The amount of...
I don't agree with Large Town Level being used for all these characters.
Nor Large Mountain.
I can somewhat see the Mountain Level for Dagon's domain, and characters scaling, but I still think that inflates things dramatically.
"Everyone" agreed.
I certainly don't.
Though I get that I can be outvoted.
I just see so many issues with this scaling perspective.
From calculations, I view as faulty or incorrectly done, to scaling assumptions that I reject and believe contradict canon.
I also don't think Miwa scales to Maki.
Maki wasn't using Playful Cloud so she wasn't at her strongest.
She's also trying not to kill.
Miwa was 100% on the defensive the entire time.
She even says if this wasn't a nonlethal fight, she would have gotten killed (1-shotted) twice.
That's not what she said.
That is an inappropriate usage of the word Literal.
She says "I'm used to being tossed around!"
Which corresponds with her training of being used to rolling on her feet or being tossed from attacks.
Not tanking blows.
Maki with the Playful Cloud sure, but not the kick she did to Mai, not only would she be holding back, but she's also not using a top tier cursed weapon.
Not comparable at all.
Her being tossed by Panda during training does not scale to Panda's actual cursed energy strikes.
Nobara is not saying Nishimiya is comparable to Panada. She's saying she is used to having to roll and land on her feet from being blown away or thrown away.
Mai amps her weapon bullets, but I don't see them as Large Town Level.
I don't see her Durability as Large Town Level.
I don't see Maki's hand to hand as Large Town Level
I don't see Maki's Durability as Large Town level.
I guess I just disagree with this whole scaling perspective.