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Hey gamers, an off-site acquaintance of mine pointed out an issue with Golden Age Wonder Woman's attack potency, striking strength, and lifting strength. Looking into it myself, it does seem concerning.
Essentially, the scan for it is a preview page from the comic, an interstition between two...
This thread pertains to calculations involving images showing the destruction of large objects, such as this one.
It means to clarify that a shockwave being visible does not mean that the feat occurred in seconds, because shockwaves are slow. Shockwaves through the air are sound, and they...
Referring to this section of the Tiering System page, and any parts of other pages to a similar effect
I think this argument is partially valid, but mostly flawed.
I'd hold it as valid for drawings, as those can typically be read as the literal drawings on the screen, without an actual world...
I can see where this calc comes from, but having a closer look I don't think it's actually legit.
A few pages beforehand, we get a shot of the surrounding area, and we can see a hill near them, before Cirno performs the feat.
In the panel being calculated, we actually see a decent, but much...
Problem: It's really difficult to fix issues with calcs on the References for Common Feats page, since one can't distinguish pages that link to one calc from pages that link to another. Troubles resulting from this can be found here and here.
Proposed Solution: Rather than having the calcs...
This seeks to largely undo this thread which was passed without the approval of any staff members knowledgeable on Medaka Box, those being @Catzlaflame @Antvasima @DontTalkDT and myself.
While I was notified...
It was only done in the two ways which I explicitly say not to contact me, from...
Why do we separate the complete destruction of the body and the erasure of the body? There is literally no physical difference in the result there, in both cases all of the particles comprising the body no longer exist. It's just that in one they were somehow removed through physical force, and...
In a recent thread, both @KLOL506 and @DarkDragonMedeus staked out claims that atomisation is both an AP feat and a feat of durability negation. I think this highlights a tension in the system as-is.
Since that idea's largely irrelevant to that thread, and deserves its own handling, I've made...
Currently, it's allowed to link off-site respect threads or calculations, as long as certain rules are followed, as outlined in our Editing Rules...
Most of this makes sense, but I don't get the part in bold.
I can see some threads of reasoning behind it, those being:
The risk of a respect...
I hold that they are. Despite the Calc Stacking page not explicitly saying anything on this, it does say some things which I think imply it:
I think the concern of characters and attacks varying in speed, and thus not using speeds from other instances, still applies to these.
Here it says that...
Good news! I'm working on profiles. I've already collected all the scans I could find (erecting and upgrading every building, completing the encyclopedia, beating every boss 6 times), now I just have to collect them into a blog of feats and anti-feats to figure out the stats, then I can chuck...
Why isn't there an aspect of Nonexistent Physiology for being physically nonexistent?
I don't know many series that feature nonexistence, but that seems to me like it would be way more common than having their "information which shapes reality" be nonexistent, so why does that get a type while...
I've recently had some indentation calcs pointed out to me by Vapourrr. Many of these calcs had other issues, but even if those were fixed, it would still give unrealistically high results.
General Issues
Here is a video of a real life human causing a dent in a car.
I'm going to lowball some...
Some calculations use upscaled lifting strength of real animals, such as this one and this one. I'm told there's more.
I take two issues with this:
The formula as used is incorrect. Muscle strength is proportional to cross-sectional area, not to volume. I think that's a decent part of why...
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So as I said in the comments of a calc, I think the only speed feat the verse is based off of is inapplicable, due to being an aimdodge.
I'm not a supporter of the verse, and the only one I could find, @Arrogant_Schmuck, hasn't logged on in a bit, so idk what other feats there'd be.
So for...
I know nothing about this verse, but an issue with a way the speed is formatted has been pointed out to me.
Yoriichi Tsugikuni's profile says...
So, MHS, linking to this calc, but that calc is MHS+.
Plus, the calc isn't mentioned or linked to on Zenitsu Agatsuma's profile, and his speed is...
As a part of the move from Gfycat to internal wiki links, we've found some links that appear to go to the wrong place, or are missing from Gfycat entirely.
This thread should be used for people replacing those Gfycat links to contact supporters of those verses, so replacement clips can be found...
I've replaced the Gfycat links on Melinda May's profile with internal wiki links, but one of them appears to have always been linking to the inappropriate URL.
The feat purporting to show her fighting with Eva Belyakov actually shows this "happy victoria day" gif.
I assume this happened...
This calc has now been rejected.
If someone wants to argue against this rejection, please do so here.
Otherwise, help from verse experts would be appreciated in removing the calc from profiles, updating their justifications to lower, accepted calcs, and removing any matches that don't work...
Dialga has the category Cosmic Devourers, given for eating something larger than a planet.
I don't remember anything justifying this canonically, and it was added without explanation 7 years ago.
If no-one brings up a reason for it to stay, it should get removed.
If a reason is given, I'd...
Why is this included on our references for common feats page?
It cites an article that gives us almost zero information on how that information was attained.
The only thing that article gives a source for is:
Even then, it just says that NASA said that, without providing a source for us to...
We recently got new WoG about Oblivion's true capabilities, along with an elaborate explanation justifying them within the existing lore.
While I put "8-C" in the title, I really think the profile could reasonably be tiered as low as 10-B. But in order to reach a compromising middle-ground, I...
Our page on Kinetic Energy Feats says that fiction often fails to differentiate between the attack potency and the speed of a character, and because it leads to unrealistic values.
Does this leave any room for specific cases where neither of those seem to apply?
I'm specifically thinking of...
Since this thread is pretty decisively leaning towards Medaka being able to beat higher-tiered characters who are still 3-D physically, lets stretch that as far as our site allows.
Both combatants will start 10 meters apart, both will be bloodlusted, speed will be equalised, and both will be at...
We currently have an accepted calc on a profile for a 9-C feat which is in the range of what normal humans can do.
Snowdrake's Mother is 9-C based on the PE of weighing 113kg and being 187cm tall. That is well within what humans accomplish, and if we accept this same method for other fictional...
Unsong's Metatron currently has BDE Type 2 under a possibly. I'm one of the main experts on the verse and don't know why. Ultima's the other main expert on the verse, made the page, and doesn't know why. So lets nuke it.
To settle a debate between @Ultima_Reality and I (and everyone else who weighed in; such as @Armorchompy).
They will start 10 meters apart, both combatants will be bloodlusted, speed will be equalised, and both will be at their strongest.
Son Goku from the DBA Manga in his most powerful key is...
After months of investigative journalism and going undercover, I've uncovered evidence that should settle this debate for good.
I have screenshots that prove that this goes all the way down. From the humble discussion moderators and content moderators, to the HR group administrators, and even...
Our Calculations page currently has this to say at the end of the Plasma section...
That line implies that any matter in the plasma state would have an energy density of 10^10 J/m^3. But when you read the link that's just not what it says.
It instead says that high energy density physics...
Our Standard Battle Assumptions page currently says:
I still think this leaves too much room as is. I suggest a reword to this:
I added the words "supernatural abilities", and removed the words "psychological tricks".
After a brief discussion it seems like the method used for Genos' Low 7-B calc, Genos' High 7-C calc, and Jet Nice Guys' 9-A calc is invalid. A recalc using the conventional method for fire calcs would yield a result 50x lower. I believe the 9-A one is also used as justification for Low 6-B.
I...
I have found three calcs (One, Two, Three), two of which are accepted, that involve dividing the energy of KE by the length of a character's arm to get force.
I see no reason for this to be valid. The third of these provided no explanation for it when @Dark-Carioca asked, with @Ugarik accepting...
I recalced the feat currently giving them 7-B and it ended up at 7-C+. This should replace the current rating.
Armageddon Machine has Large Size (Type 3) which requires being over 1km tall, which it doesn't seem to reach up to, this should be changed to type 2.
Artifact Boss and Knack...
Our page on One-Shots currently treats 7.5x as the gap required to one-shot someone through a blow to the torso, as this is the gap between 9-C and 10-B, something that should be considered a one-shot.
However, that's just incorrect. Ordinary humans punching at ordinary human speeds can get...
We attribute different shear strengths to wood in different calculations.
Some of them, such as this calc, use a tensile strength of 70-140 MPa, multiplied by 0.6 to get shear strength,
Some of them, such as this calc, use a shear strength of 7.3774 MPa.
These values are 5.7-11.4x off from...
So according to @Armorchompy, the precedent for calcs involving creating fireballs, lighting areas on fire, and the like is to use the density of air to get the mass, and then do heat change for that.
But the calcs I've been doing for a few years have used the density of flame instead, which is...
Apparently as of this thread Acrobatics has been changed to not let characters who can just jump high qualify, so what should those feats be indexed as? I've got quite a few pages, some on the wiki and some I'm still working on for feats such as jumping over tall gates, onto tall buildings, or...
As of this thread the common feat for destroying skyscrapers was replaced. All pages which used it need to be updated accordingly.
The list of pages that need to be checked can be found here; 403 pages in total.
If a few of us agree to split the workload, we'd be able to go through it with a...