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Well I'll still try to replay and refresh anyway's and try to give a better explination of my feelings and a different perspective after I'm done. You're still free to disagree however even after I do this If I still end up agreeing with the idea black holes = physical's after my refresher...
I don't mean to sound condecinding if I came off like that.
IT could potentially be argued those are low ends. Especially since Stronger Nevi can survive the Micro black hole's Kat generates.
Especially since i'm pretty sure other decently highly rated character's Do have similar low ends...
I’m not sure how it’d be an outlier if it’s due to a normal power.
Just because it’d be the only reason their physical’s are Super high doesn’t necessarily mean an outlier. See various verses with one off powers that scale super high but still scale to their physical’s.
Unless there is...
I think if it’s directly called a black hole by a reliable source with no real contradictions it should be good to go.
Plus Yeah I’m pretty sure GR gets higher then the planetary due to some arguments I saw.
Ok I'm sorry if I sound nitpicky at this point, but where is the source of Mcburn's s-craft hitting like a supernova.
is this a line from the japanese version or what? I've seen it but NEVER seen a source for it.
(Plus as me and Zero talked about It's literally just way easier to scale Rean...
Bump? Sorry if that's not allowed.
But I'd love to see some conversation around tales again. Especially since I feel like the profiles are kinda old. I'm playing through tales games starting with Xillia (it's the easiest one I've got access to. I'm missing some other's unfortunatly.)
You know what fair, however Vermillion apocolypse should be different. Even as a freshly woken up Knight it did pose a threat to Begining of 4 Class 7. So the downscaling method should work from that way.
Admitedly forgot about that one.
Though there are other methods of down scaling Class 7...
few small corrections.
Class 7 Beat the soldat piloted by some nobody, and then immedeatly got thrown into a fight with Scarlet Piloting a Spiegel. A much faster and superior unit to the Soldat. and they specifically only lost because they had now way around the reactive armor of the Spiegel...
It just occured to me, we could possibly just down scale end of game Cold steel 1 and 2 Class 7 from Cold steel 4 Laura and Rean
in Laura's bonding event in 4 they battle a Loa erebonius. One Laura directly compares to the one Class 7 fought at the end of Cold steel 1.
"A single Loa...
The tales profiles are pretty old, honestly I think they could all use some massive revisions I just am not sure how many people are into tales that'd care enough.
Anyway's gonna join in on the vote for Velvet, Cinder has Flight and mid ranged option's but it's not like those are always her...
Also I just realized, shouldn't Rean's Cold Steel 2 speed be based off something else? Unless I'm misremembering, S-crafts cannot miss. and the current sub-reletivistic rating comes from the idea that enemies can dodge Emma's S-craft.
Like there is a LOT of light based stuff we could examine...
It usually means they are an unquantifiable amount higher.
Like, say character A one shots character B very casually. And character B has a feat of them tanking a 7-A (mountain level) explosion.
Character A would be rated as At least 7-A likely far higher because they scale an unqantifiable...
I am aware it'd be mftl+, I'm just not certain it specifically is an outlier considering how up in the air most of medaka boxes stats are and medaka already being considered "casually" near light speed (like 1-5% light speed?). Hence why i mentioned it here for other's to judge.
You know I'm kinda curious about what revisions are planned?
Though I did notice a Kinda impressive speed feat. Though it might be deemed an outlier with all the current stuff.
That being Medaka blitzing Aijmu's finger gun move that could blow up stars with it's speed. This is after it's...
Because it’s calculating the mass of the 20% gun devil , then using the speed calculated for the gun devil. All from the same scene.
“Pixel scaling over several steps is permitted, as long as the size of the scaled objects usually stays constant.
Using the calculated speed of a projectile to...
Oh right just gonna ask opinions on my edit, Think that could be a valid speed calc? (Well I assume it'd be a valid speed calc even if they just block it but still)
So if a character get's to say 5-d Via plot manipulation. That should generally overpower anybody lesser then that with resistance to plot manipulation right? Or is that a no.
ie for example: Say Arale from Dr slump who get's low 1-c via plot manipulation used it on Sponge bob who has plot...
Sorry if I added to that. But I think that’s simply due to the massive amounts of work needed + needing to go through 10+ games for a reletively niche series.
Holy crap I just stumbled upon this and am SO glad I have, While I'm not 100% in agreement on everything, there's definatly a lot of stuff I am. I do feel like quite a bit of stuff is missing for Estelle though. Much as Jason's Respect blog for her cover's I feel like it misses things only seen...
From an jump specifically made for an attack (plus not every piece of fiction falls under terminal velocity). Plus if Cronos lightning is natural I don't see why it'd move at consistant speeds in every other instance but be slow ONLY for this specific one.
It literally just occured to me after remebering the "how strong is Crono" video which mentioned it. and I double checked the move frame by frame to make sure. So It doesn't surprise me, because it doesn't look like he moves in tandom unless you go frame by frame. just cause it's so fast (I...
you know assuming Crono's lightning is treated as real lightning. Frog does move in tandom with it during his and Crono's duel attack. (I remember seeing that used for speed a long time ago.)
Edit: here are specific frames in which Frog does move when the lightnign moves. Doing some of my...
OH hey I was just about to try to get INTO Chrono trigger. Surprised it's being buffed back to 5-A. Though it seems like the speed's being downgraded to supersonic? sad.
I'm surprised he doesn't get higher, (or at least higher then the 2 universes he's in) because the scaling chain. (Ie he'd be stronger then other 2 universe character's but not more so then a 3 universe one if that make's sense)