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  1. KingPin0422

    Transcending an indeterminately large multiverse

    I have received mixed signals regarding the issue of a character/realm transcending a multiverse containing countless space-time continua: 1. It means nothing and is still 2-B (as indicated with Dragon Ball's "Heroes" continuity) 2. It makes the character/realm in question infinite compared to...
  2. KingPin0422

    Can a 1-A ever affect a High 1-A?

    I ask this question because I have read somewhere on this wiki that, under certain circumstances, a sufficiently powerful 1-A can affect a High 1-A, even if only marginally. I am curious about the validity of this, since I'm pretty sure a High 1-A should never be able to be affected at all...
  3. KingPin0422

    Type 11 Immortality

    I heard that the previous Type 5 (Perfect Immortality) was supposed to be redone as Type 11. However, this change never happened. Have the staff forgotten about this, or did they simply decide that there was no reason to have it anymore?
  4. KingPin0422

    What tier would this character be?

    Say there is a verse with several hierarchies, the first one being dimensional space and then the later ones are outerversal, each hierarchy being completely qualitatively superior to the last. Then, we are introduced to a character who is said to be beyond the parameters of most mathematics...
  5. KingPin0422

    Massive DBS Upgrades

    Okay, so for starters: The World of Void is stated to be, of course, an infinite void without space or time. Given how we have used these descriptions to justify 1-A characters before, we can safely assume that the World of Void is an outerversal realm. This, of course, is relevant, as an...
  6. KingPin0422

    Redefining Peak Humanity

    I'll keep this short: Now that Composite Human is 9-B, I think we should look into changing the Peak Human page to reflect this upgrade. Conversely, we'll need a new term for physical characteristics in the 9-C range. NOTE: STAFF ONLY
  7. KingPin0422

    Question about the Theory of Forms

    If I recall, it was agreed that the Theory of Forms is usually 1-A, but becomes High 1-B if executed poorly. However, even after reading the Wikipedia article on it, I still have a poor understanding of it. This may be more about the requirements for 1-A (which I'll admit I don't exactly...
  8. KingPin0422

    The I/O pages are really, really bad

    1. There are grammatical errors everywhere. I can barely read some of the stuff on the pages because sometimes the wording makes no sense. 2. Most of the statistics lack a justification. In particular, why do the Cyberspace Goddesses have omniscience/omnipresence? 3. Speaking of the Cyberspace...
  9. KingPin0422

    Transcending something VS transcending the concept of something

    The latter is superior, right? I mean, you can't be 1-A being dimensionless/beyond dimensions, you get there by being beyond the concept of dimensions. Also, someone who is beyond mathematics could still be described by a more advanced form of mathematics, while someone beyond the concept of...
  10. KingPin0422

    Difference between abstract and meta-abstract?

    Basically, how are these two different beyond "meta-abstracts are basically outerversal abstracts"?
  11. KingPin0422

    Absolute greatest hax in your opinion

    Simple, state what you consider to be the absolute limit of hax. (Omnipotence doesn't count, nor does anything having to do with "Omniversal" stuff)
  12. KingPin0422

    Flan-chan VS Anna Gella

    The supposed most powerful character ever goes up against WILL TO LIVE. Who wins? ovo
  13. KingPin0422

    Transduality questions

    1. If transduality is not being limited by binary concepts, including cause/effect, life/death, etc., then would a transdual High 1-B be able to stand up to a dualistic 1-A? 2. Is there any correlation between transduality and True Godly Regenerationn? As in, does having one give the other, or...
  14. KingPin0422

    Question about Undertale

    Why do we not use Alphys' mention of "parallel universes" when factoring in the God Tiers' power? I feel like she'd be a reliable source in this case, as she has been the Royal Scientist for quite a long time at this point and so would have at least a bit of knowledge on cosmic stuff like this.
  15. KingPin0422

    How much does transcending the concepts of space and time affect one's tier?

    I've heard that transcending the concepts of space-time doesn't mean anything in terms of raw power and at best would be considered hax (Acausality, etc.) However, a 1-A character is completely beyond all physical notions of time and space, though I have no idea just how much it differs from...
  16. KingPin0422

    Could one High 1-A be stronger than another?

    With the presence of characters like The Nameless Mist supposedly in-between Yog-Sothoth and Azathoth, and also going by what I've heard both on here and in FC/OC, I am led to believe that High 1-A could be a hierarchy, if a very thin and almost nonexistent one. Is this true in any capacity?
  17. KingPin0422

    Major Undertale Revisions

    Hello everyone. There are a few things about Undertale I'd like to bring up: 1. Determination should count as Statistics Amplification. From what I understand, Determination increases your power in accordance with your drive to do something. Sounds like Statisitcs Amplification to me. 2. Chara...
  18. KingPin0422

    Dragon Ball Super Episode 123 Upgrades

    I know that we didn't see very much of Vegeta's new form this episode, but together with SSBKK Goku he quickly turned the tables on Jiren. Speaking of Jiren, it's also noted by Belmod that he has used much more power than he did against UI Goku, as he did sense "a rise in Jiren" who also did...
  19. KingPin0422

    Another confusion about High 1-A...

    High 1-A, at minimum, transcends baseline 1-A in the same fashion that baseline 1-A transcends Tier 11. But... there are a few things I need to know: 1. In some High 1-A profiles, 3-D humanity is mentioned instead of something lower-dimensional. Why rate them High 1-A if humans are not Tier...
  20. KingPin0422

    The Brothers Yin and Yang (Marvel/DC) VS Gork and Mork (Warhammer)

    High 1-B forms used. Standard Battle Assumptions apply.
  21. KingPin0422

    Hajun (Masadaverse) VS Nyarlathotep (Cthulhu Mythos)

    After the fuckery that happened the last time this was made, I'm hoping that this one won't go out the same way. This is Hajun w/ Tumor VS True Nyarlathotep.
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • cthulhu mythos hajun nyarlathotep (cthulhu mythos) shinza banshou
    • Replies: 106
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  22. KingPin0422

    Upgrade for Chara

    Hello everyone. After some thinking, I believe that Chara may in fact be 2-A. For why I think this is the case, we ought to consider this line: "HP. LV. ATK. DEF. EXP. GOLD. Every time a number increases, that feeling... that's me." How do I know that these aren't limited to just Frisk and...
  23. KingPin0422

    About Type 10 Immortality...

    I am really curious why this kind of immortality exists. As I see it, it literally is something you get simply by being 1-A. In my opinion, it would be better to rewrite it such that you don't need to be 1-A to have it. I've actually heard that a non-1-A having it isn't impossible, but the page...
  24. KingPin0422

    I expect to get torn apart for this... but I may have proof that Roshi destroying the moon is valid.

    Hoo boy, I might be taking a huge risk here, but I figured it was worth a shot. Anyway, onto the main point: I think I have proof that Roshi's moon-busting feat is not an outlier. It seems that everyone here missed something that Kami did in the King Piccolo Arc: more specifically, he...
  25. KingPin0422

    Question about Undertale...

    I've been told that Undertale has at least 10^500 timelines, which I can believe as the God Tiers were once 2-A, back when 2-A wasn't limited to infinitely 4-D beings. My question now is: where exactly does this come from? I know Flowey did a lot of resets, but I don't think he could have done...
  26. KingPin0422

    Regarding the decision to disqualify 1-A for automatic High-Godly Regenerationn...

    I remember a thing about 1-A characters once having High-Godly Regenerationn as they were "above existence", but that seems to be gone as that, along with the whole thing about them being "indescribable by science or mathematics", apparently has been used for things below 1-A and there could be...
  27. KingPin0422

    Warhammer 40K Chaos God Upgrades?

    From the description in the AP of the Chaos Gods, this is their justification: "Transcendent of the material universe, which contains a myriad of higher dimensions so great that they 'cannot be defined by so limited a thing as human language'. Unbound by the restrictions of physical reality...
  28. KingPin0422

    Conceptually Different VS Conceptually Superior

    As this wiki defines it, 1-A characters are undimensioned by their very nature. However, there seems to be two different kinds of 1-A: these being a conceptual difference from the concept of dimensions, and a conceptual superiority to the concept of dimensions. I just want to ask, how do these...
  29. KingPin0422

    Regarding Asriel Dreemurr...

    1. Asriel was mentioned on here to be so fast that he appeared omnipresent compared to Frisk, who kept up with him despite him apparently having infinite 4-D speed. This comes from him contacting Frisk before his creation, which I'm pretty sure would be impossible if Full-Power Asriel only had...
  30. KingPin0422

    Potential "Low 1-A" Tier?

    Now, I'm not trying to challenge the Tiering System, I just have a suggestion to add to it. Anyway, I've noticed that some characters such as the Downstreamers are rated as High 1-B for being beyond space and time, and others like the Endless are also High 1-B despite showing to be able to...
  31. KingPin0422

    Perfect Immortality

    I saw a page on FC/OC VS Battles where a character had additional types besides Type 5. I know this is probably better asked there, but I figure that this would be the easier and possibly better option. Is Perfect Immortality compatible with the other types of immortality? I know this may...
  32. KingPin0422

    Question about High 1-A...

    "High Outerverse level: Characters that are extremely powerful compared to other characters within this category, and whose power by far exceeds the regular requirements for tier 1-A. Take note that being infinitely superior to a regular 1-A character, does not automatically make another...
  33. KingPin0422

    High-Godly Regenerationn for Frisk?

    I want to bring up this topic because I noticed some things about the Asriel Dreemurr fight that I think could upgrade Frisk's Regenerationn. Firstly, either when Flowey transformed into Asriel or Asriel used Hyper Goner, he basically destroyed reality/the game itself, much like Chara did. I...
  34. KingPin0422

    Massive(?) DBS upgrades

    So you might be wondering why I made this thread so soon after DBS got upgraded already. Well, I did so because I noticed that Zeno had a 2-C rating for "destroying all mortal realms, all afterlives, all Kaioshin Realms, and all others pocket dimensions". Yet, I feel like Infinite Zamasu...
  35. KingPin0422

    Amigo Battle Royale!

    Round 1: Alex Dreemurr (True Character) VS Child Matthew (Omni-Omni-Creator Boundless Inner World) Round 2: Bread (Base) VS Neutralex Round 3: Zamas (Amino/Suppressed) VS Frisk the DETERMINED (Wolf Form) Round 3.5: Same as above but with Dragon Frisk Round 4: N-Alex VS Fanon!Riley (Peaked)...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • aleverse riley(fanon) the crying child ( world's beyond x wonderland's crossover ) undertale
    • Replies: 12
    • Forum: Vs Thread
  36. KingPin0422

    Concept VS Abstraction

    According to the Abstract Existence page, an abstraction is defined as an immaterial embodiment of a fundamental concept, and those that simply represent a concept do not qualify. However, even after multiple readings, I could never fully understand the difference between a concept and an...
  37. KingPin0422

    Anna Gella VS Composite Tree

    Composite Tree is infamous for having such a high survivability, to the point of meme status. But Anna holds the WILL TO LIVE, which gives her an all-POWERful desire to keep going. Round 1: Anna is willing to kill. Round 2: Anna is not willing to kill. Round 3: Anna just does Anna things, so...
    • KingPin0422
    • Thread
    • anna gella composite tree (mildly wanked)
    • Replies: 3
    • Forum: Vs Thread
  38. KingPin0422

    Gilgamesh (Wanked) VS N-Alex

    This is ? N-Alex. Gilgamesh has full access to SBA Manipulation and may use it in any way he needs to in order to maximize his chance of victory. Who wins?
  39. KingPin0422

    Limitless VS Infinite Stamina?

    The Stamina page mentions Infinite Stamina as being indicative of allowing to use moves endlessly without tiring. However, I am curious as to how Limitless Stamina is any different.
  40. KingPin0422

    N-Alex (LV3) VS SAHN GOKUUUEHHH (Limit Breaker)

    WHO WINS?!
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