Can a 1-A ever affect a High 1-A?

[KingPin0422]

I ask this question because I have read somewhere on this wiki that, under certain circumstances, a sufficiently powerful 1-A can affect a High 1-A, even if only marginally.

I am curious about the validity of this, since I'm pretty sure a High 1-A should never be able to be affected at all outside of a 0 or another High 1-A.

(Tier 0 obviously cannot be affected by anything ever, so that's out of the question.)

 

[Megamangohan]

i don't think so...

 

[ProspectX]

Unless very special circumstances would have been met, this won't be a feat.

Just a more powerful 1-A won't do.

 

[Aeyu]

It would likely raise whoever did so, providing it's not CIS or PIS, to "At least 1-A" though I could be mistaken. Or, conversely, it would lower the other character to such a rating.

 

[ProspectX]

Yeah, although there are some special occasions where a hierarchy, allows such a thing to happen.

It's not logic in terms of that it doesn't fit within our system, but if it happens then I doubt that was just the 1-A being powerful.

 

[Antvasima]

A regular 1-A could logically never affect a High 1-A, no. The human language would likely have a hard time properly describing the sheer magnitude of difference between the two tiers.

 

[Bobsican]

A regular 1-A could logically never affect a High 1-A, no. The human language would likely have a hard time properly describing the sheer magnitude of difference between the two tiers.

It´s easy, just take tier 1-A as if it was tier 11 and High 1-A as tier 1-A.

Or in other words, be powerful enought to be called a god in comparation of normal 1-As.

 

[Kepekley23]

A High 1-A is to a 1-A as a 1-A is to a 11-C

 

[Bobsican]

Also possible to just call it pseudo omnipotence.

 

[Kepekley23]

Well, the difference between an omnipotent and High 1-A is Absolutely Infinite, that is, it is more than inconceivable.

Absolute Infinity = Omnipotence. If you take something, no matter how infinitesimally small, you no longer have Absolute Infinity, thus you're no longer Omnipotent.

 

[Bobsican]

Well, it´s harder to think a truly accurate name for that specific case.

 

[Wokistan]

Wouldn't this depend on the series interactions? For example a couple of Cthulu 1As like nyar seem to have a similar interaction with other 1As that featherine, a High 1A does, except Nyar and others have other non tier 0s above them. This doesn't really ever come up since high 1A is banned and 1As usually don't resolve anyways, but how exactly does something like that get explained?

 

[Lightbuster30]

High 1-A is basically our way of saying nigh-omnipotece. You don't affect them until they allow it.

That being said, how many High 1-A's can a verse have before the local tier zero becomes tier High 1-A? Apparently if you have too many H1-A's then the tier 0 is no longer tier 0 because it has the limit of "too many similar beings"....how exactly is that a limit again?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

It´s easy, just take tier 1-A as if it was tier 11 and High 1-A as tier 1-A.

Or in other words, be powerful enought to be called a god in comparation of normal 1-As.

A High 1-A is to a 1-A as a 1-A is to a 11-C

I would just like to point out that these descriptions are only the minimal apparent requirement to be considered High 1-A. If this were the actual gap, than characters like Nyarlathotep and even Umr at-Tawil and Bernkastel and Lambdadelta would be considered High 1-A. The gap is much bigger than that, that I just the minimal requirement to be the tier, assuming no other higher beings besides a tier 0 exist.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

That being said, how many High 1-A's can a verse have before the local tier zero becomes tier High 1-A? Apparently if you have too many H1-A's then the tier 0 is no longer tier 0 because it has the limit of "too many similar beings"....how exactly is that a limit again?

Having multiple High 1-A characters wouldn't make the 0 become High 1-A, it would make the High 1-As become merely 1-A.

 

[Lightbuster30]

That being said, how many High 1-A's can a verse have before the local tier zero becomes tier High 1-A? Apparently if you have too many H1-A's then the tier 0 is no longer tier 0 because it has the limit of "too many similar beings"....how exactly is that a limit again?

Having multiple High 1-A characters wouldn't make the 0 become High 1-A, it would make the High 1-As become merely 1-A.

Well thats what I heard people saying on the downstreamers thread.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

No, you misread. They said that a race of High 1-A characters cannot exist, because the simple fact that they're so numerous would make them merely 1-A.

 

[Bobsican]

no other higher beings besides a tier 0 exist.

It seems you haven´t heard of Chuck Norris, Sanic and TFS Mr. Popo (aka, tier -1)

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

stahp lad

 

[Lightbuster30]

It seems you haven´t heard of Chuck Norris, Sanic and TFS Mr. Popo (aka, tier -1)

omnipotence is above jokes tho.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

^

 

[Bobsican]

omnipotence is above jokes tho.

Still above tier 0.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

No.

 

[Bobsican]

11>10>9>8>7>6>5>4>3>2>1>0>-1

See? Above tier 0

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

No.

 

[Antvasima]

Since the question has been answered, I will close this thread.