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  • Can you reply this question?
    Hi could I please get your input here please? I just need one more mod to give an okay.

    It's a blog to help make a confusing series much easier to follow

    Some input here
    Please answer my question

    I would be glad if you could help me here.
    Hello Ultima
    What would this space qualify for, and those who "transcend" to the space?
    It's a space of 4 dimensions where you can now see the 3D world
    It exists outside reality, causality, order, and fate
    Described as a higher plane
    The laws of time and space are different from the regular world. There, everything can be a moment or a lifetime
    I'm not knowledgeable on higher tier stuffs so I don't even know what to propose

    Hurry with your take.
    Hello, Ultima
    I was wandering in my random "what-if" thoughts and suddenly some things got me curious.
    Can someone come back from being reduced to a Tier 0? In any way whatsoever?

    Additionally, if an entity exists purely as thoughts, and holds to the preposition "I think, therefore I am", with that is the only thing or quality that's differentiating the "I" from a Tier 0, and letting the "I" have distinctions, would something that reduces the "I" so much so that it changes into the preposition "I cannot think, therefore I am not", would that reduce the "I" to a Tier 0, or would it just make it go purely "Nothing"[in the truest sense as you describe here]?
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    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Another question, if in a verse everything goes according to how a 1-A or higher tier God character wants it to go, then can we ignore potential anti-feats like "character X gaining 1-A powers" via the analogy that it was the God character that made it happen/willed it to happen? "Willed it" in the sense that he created a sort of a "Fate" or "Destiny" that every character in the verse follows unconditionally, and even characters gaining new powers[any] is because they were "fated to gain those powers".

    Probably fine but I'd need to see the specific case to be sure.
    Astral_Trinity439
    Astral_Trinity439
    Astral_Trinity439
    STAFF! HELP ME DOWNGRADE VOID SHIKI, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
    (Also you said you would check it 3 weeks ago)
    Hey there Ultima. I have a question regarding ontological transcendence. So, to ontologically transcend something (Low 1-A to 1-A, 1-A to High 1-A), one must work in a different, ontologically superior framework right? So my question is this :

    If character B "transcend" character A who is 1-A, with the context behind "transcend" here is proved to be :
    1. Exist in a different framework
    2. Superior to character A's framework

    That would make character B High 1-A, right?

    If yes, wouldn't that mean the act of "transcend" here be the same as ontological transcendence?
    Livinaa
    Livinaa
    Non 1-A=Quantitative framework=Dimensional/mathematics scaling

    1-A=Qualitative framework=R>F

    High 1-A=Meta-qualitative framework=...
    Grabbing_dragon
    Grabbing_dragon
    Good and one more thing, A framework encompasses all possible extensions of layers with whatever quality is in them.
    Livinaa
    Livinaa
    Bump
    Visit my Yin Tian Shen Yin CRT please.
    Grabbing_dragon
    Grabbing_dragon
    Welcome to eternal suffering because your thread is high 1A ,the only open part is 1A stuff while the high 1A is still onwait
    I know your a super busy man ultima but I was wondering if you could just for a few minutes take a look at this dale cooper match?


    You are one of the few twin peaks members so please

    Thanks
    check dis out

    Hello there Ultima. I want to make a revision on God of War but it's really controversial, so I'd need staff support or else it'll instantly get shot down and closed. Could you hear me out? You even said you'd give input on it before.
    TyphonEX
    TyphonEX
    It already got closed by a few staff members before more staff could evaluate it so I'll need staff support before I can open up a new one.
    I have a question for you ultima where would a realm nothingness that transcendces time , space and exist outside of reality , all self disappears and dreams could not be dreamed . This realm also predates and will out last reality as it simple is eternal and creation/ reality even if they are destroyed this realm will still exist scale ?(theirs a lot more info but this is the basics)
    Can we continue with this thread? We are now at a stalemate.
    Hey Ultima, as per your request, we've created a more detailed explanation of the authorities in Lord of the Mysteries. We added a dedicated page for authorities and linked both the Klein and Amon profiles to it.
    Hi Ultima, can I ask you a question about HDM. If a character is able to separate a certain thing (such as the universe) from the Higher-D level, does this give it HDM since being separating this thing from the highest level in the existing.
    Hello Ultima
    I would like to ask you a few questions regarding Umineko, specifically the Creator, could you add me on discord?
    My id : astral___trinity
    We’ve added the changes from the Lord of the Mysteries CRT into the profiles, and I believe the thread is now ready to be closed.

    I have a question here, I think it might be a good thing for the Supernatural characters (Chuck, Amara, Jack and the void).

    The void, as stated in the series is a non-physical place where The Angels and demons go when they die. This space lacks time or space, as those aspects are unique to Chuck's narrative and he cannot affect the void.

    It is a place where reality in its entirety is just inserted. And according to the new BDE features, this may qualify for 1-A. Plus there is more evidence I can gather to avoid the anti-doings of your avatars.

    What do you think? This is just a raw thing, if you think it may come to work I can gather enough evidence from the series. Even if you are not convinced now, if you have a little doubt whether it is "yes" or a "no" I will try to bring the necessary evidence in a future thread.
    Hello there Ultima. You seem to be an expert in Tier 1 revisions. A while ago, I think you said you'd look over this God of War downgrade thread that I made, but it was closed before that could happen. Now, I do want to reopen it, but it would be helpful to get staff support so that my thread doesn't get immediately get shut down again.

    Anyways, the arguments here essentially boil down to me saying that none of the "evidence" brought up is sufficient to demonstrate that God of War has 5D cosmology let alone 5D in a substantial enough manner to warrant Low 1-C. Basically, the situation is that God of War's cosmology has multiple realms that exist separate from each other that are unable to be traveled between save for special methods such as portals. The linked post is basically the only one that all the rejections are based off of. There's also this but the argument isn't coherent at all and it's just a bunch of non-sequiturs. Anyways, these facts of the cosmology are taken as meaning that these realms are parallel and thus embedded in higher dimensional space. The issue is that these realms are finite and are never even said to be universes. The most we know of their size is that they contain galaxies, but that's obviously not enough to warrant infinite size. Note how even in the cosmology page, there is no evidence of the Nine Realms being universal (which is infinite by our standards unless space is curved or cut off) in size. Only ungrounded statements and extrapolations. And of course, finite dimensions can exist within a larger space of the same dimensionality while neither intersecting nor having to be parallel, so they don't have to be embedded in higher-dimensional space. And the reason why realm travel is generally limited to special methods is not because of some sort of parallelism, but because Odin sealed off travel between realms. That's it.

    Another problem is that even if we assume it is 5D, there is no proof that it is fully-sized. Thus, the proof for Low 1-C is insufficient, since there is no proof that its 5D volume is any more than just 0. Even if we assume they're parallel and embedded in 5D space, that's not enough for 5D. You can look through the entire thread and even the previous ones or the cosmology page and there's no proof of sufficient extension in the 5th dimensional axis to justify Low 1-C. The closest they get to this is Planck claiming that the branches of the Yggdrasil extend infinitely in 5D space, therefore they must extend substantially along the 5th axis which is obviously a non-sequitur. It has already been pointed out that this is flawed logic as even a 4D object can extend infinitely in 5D space, that does not make it Low 1-C.

    Would you be willing to open the thread? Maybe support my side if you're convinced?
    Hey Ultima,
    Could we possibly get a final decision on the Lord of the Mysteries CRT now that we have four staff approvals? The thread is starting to become cluttered, with some comments revisiting topics that have already been discussed, likely due to new participants not reading through everything.

    Based on your input, would you agree to the following AP:
    • Original Creator: 1-A
    • Pillars: 1-A (Given weakened Celestial Worthy's ability to influence the Astral World and God Almighty being its ruler)
    • Great Old Ones: 1-A, Low 1-A, or Low 1-C? (These entities are stronger than Gods but aren't classified as Pillars)
    • True Gods / Sequence 0: Low 1-A or Low 1-C? (Considering their dominion over everything derived from these essences, do you think Low 1-A is more fitting?)
    I believe we can move forward with whatever you decide on this.
    Hey, please I wanted to ask for permission to comment on the Tier0 thread for swirl of the root
    Hey, please I wanted to ask for permission to comment on the Tier0 thread for swirl of the root
    Please, really need your input here Ultima, there is one H1A+ thread that has not been checked


    Please, really need your input here
    Hey ya, the CRT here is 1 staff vote off of being accepted, could ya give your input?

    Hello, Ultima. I have a few questions about the both type of characters that make up the tier High 1-A+
    Regarding High 1-A+ "type one" characters(the ones who can affect all possibilities but don't embody them):
    1. Given that they can affect all possibilities, are they all equal in terms of raw power?
    2. Can a character reach this tier despite only being capable of destroy possibilities?

    Regarding "type two"(The ones who embody all possibilities):
    1. Can there only be one per verse simmilarly to tier 0, or can there be more characters that collectively make up the framework of existence? Like the abstracts of Marvel but on an absolute scale.
    2. The concept of Mahapralaya reach this tier and type if despicted correctly? It is not the totatility of existence, but it can dissolve it.
    3. Characters who are the vehicle for a tier 0 to create all possibilities, like Azathoth to the supreme archetype, are this type of High 1-A by virtue of having created everything even if they don't embody those possibilities, or are they restricted to type one?

    Thanks in advance.
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