Ultima_Reality

Hi, just wondering if this is an OK thread question to ask the community at large? (mostly cause I'm trying to figure out when the site is most active/when most of the members are active) (And if you don't mind perhaps you could help me invite other people to contribute to the thread?)

I would like your thoughts on this. (It's partially inspired, motive-wise, by your suggestion on Tier Revisions, particularly the Tier 0 and 1 Revision Threads)

Ultima, good morning!


Well, in this crt it's talking about dimensional barriers, if you could take the time to help us I would appreciate it, if you could look at the counter arguments that would be good too

Hi Ultima, what you thought on this post regarding the issue that seem to heat if Demmateis works will be split from Main cosmology.

No to say, all this stuffs like "Worlds within world" "A universe is a multiverses to all of other universe of possibilities" "Omniverse" "A lager thought is contained by another larger thought" is more of the same idea but explained in different tone.

Every writers including him adopted this idea into their works. Dematteis works specifically explained this R>F Hierarchy of Universes in more detail, like this phrase "World within world" which was used by every writers.

Even without Dematteis, the scale of Main cosmology will still remain the same. Like I said above, the Main cosmology still has the its own of infinite universe contained by universe which in turn contained by multiverse. To understand what im saying, The Superflow encompassed the Earth-616 and other alternates universes, all of choices maked in universes like Earth-616 would result in branching out Earth-616-1, Earth-616-2 and infinite which Earth-616 encompasses them. Then in turn Earth-616-1 can also branch another infinite universe of possibilities and this go on infinitly just like this statement. So no in my point of view.

"As above, so below"

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Hello me and some friends have been arguing about R>F transcendence and I have 2 questions I would love to hear your opinion about.

• First, If there is a infinite R>F transcendence in this case reality and dream. Will the tier change if the hierarchy go up or down? I am wondering since i think it is just a perspective.
• Second, The size of the R>F should be irrelevant right? Since the argument is being made that a "dream" is comparable in size to "reality" is a anti-feat for the R>F.

Thank you for your time.

Hello.
In this cutscene from Honkai,a character is inside of a higher dimensional plane, and punches their way through a wall because they got sealed off from a lot of it (The feat starts at 2:15). Is this AP, HDM, or something else?

Hello.
I have some questions regarding "exotic abilities"
Question 1
Character A is said to be the personification of death. A can also manipulate death and can continue to exist as long as death remains. What does A qualify for?
1. Immortality type 8
2. Abstract existence type 2
3. Conceptual manipulation (don't know what type)
Question 2
Character B created Character A (the one in the first question). Does that qualify for Conceptual manipulation?

Would appreciate your response

Sor to distrib you but can dimensionless existence type 3 (which was removed in past) return in this new tiering?
In my opinion, that will be a great way to describe outerversal (a few changing old definitions are obviously needed)

Hello!
Sorry for bothering again haha.
I know you are probably super busy with the pages and applying the changes + all the people asking questions.
so once again pardon me for being rude!
I had several questions

1- I checked the new tier system page and was confused about two stuff. A) so are cardinals such as Berkeley and Mahlo High 1-B +? only Absolute infinity and T4 multiverse and similar are low outer?
2- I have seen T4 multiverse in both low 1-A and High 1-A+, How? this doesn't make sense to me.
3- from my understanding, a standard reactive evolution and adaptation can NOT make a being reach higher qualitative levels. (For example five layers into outer cannot each six layers into outer via reactive evolution)
4- is it still possible for a being to have a higher qualitative hax while that being is lesser than it? (EX a 2D being having High 1-A hax)
5- also just to be clear, High 1-A+ stands for anything such as infinite layers into higher outerversal up to even peak of high outerversal which can be achieved with EMR yes?

Now I also have three recommendations
1- I think we should have a new large size (type 12) for beings that are above quantities and meta quantity as a whole thus entering a qualitative size.
2- majority of high tier pages must be changed. I'm asking please have the team writing those pages to be more clear where does a specific scan scales to hahaha.
3- return of irrelevant speed?

I would appreciate alot if you would answer these (obviously when you are free and have time don't want to be a headache)

Hey there, I’m not sure if you’ve spoken to Bobsican about matters regarding Kingdom Hearts, but I have some inquiries about the verse possibly reaching High 1-A.

Within the verse, there exists a plane of existence called “the chasm of dreams.” In which, it was stated that one couldn’t reach said plain no matter how many dreams within dreams they dived into (“F>R”). My first question is whether being unreachable by any set of R>F “distance” constitutes High 1-A.

My second question is in regard to the verses concept of Light and Darkness. The 2 primordial universal energy sources that compose the cosmology, even down to individuals’ abstract conceptual existences (their Hearts).

I bring this up because of a statement presented likenening and describing the process of diving into dreams within dreams as diving into “darkness within darkness.” Would this imply Darkness (and therefore Light) as High 1-A via encompassing the Chasm of dreams as a whole, and transcending an infinite dream within dream hierarchy?

Your input would be greatly appreciated, as the expert on such matters.

Another doubt. A character whose existence precedes his own fictional work, where he himself wished to create It. Does this set it to R>f? Things like threatening the writers and interacting with the "real world" too. All this evidence leads to an R>f of level 1-A, right?

Ultima que dia você vai me desbloquear no Discord, olha lá meu nick é rigelbr7
@Ultima_Reality

Hey, could you take a look at these Lord of the Mysteries Revisions? I was also told you said that the Original Creator from LOTM could reach 1-A with the new system.


Thank you

Hey, hope you don't mind, but I was curious about High 1-A+ after reading through some of the tiering system revisions.

As far as I'm aware, 2 things stuck out to me.

The apex of this tier, represented also by a "+" modifier (High 1-A+), corresponds to characters whose power encompasses meta-qualities, meta-meta-qualities, meta-meta-meta-qualities, meta-meta-meta-meta-qualities, and any and all conceivable extensions of this process.

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As well as being capable of actualizing any arbitrarily large world or embodying the framework of such worlds. Basically embodying the collection of all possible worlds.

So, a thought occurred to me. What if a character exceeds all conceivable extensions of the process of encompassing meta-qualities and so on, but they can't necessarily actualize any possible world. They just have power beyond all extensions of the aforementioned process.

I was kinda wondering how it would go if High 1-A was regulated to "to characters whose power encompasses meta-qualities, meta-meta-qualities, meta-meta-meta-qualities, meta-meta-meta-meta-qualities, and any and all conceivable extensions of this process."

And high 1-A+ would be demiurgic figures who could either actualize any world or embody all possible worlds.

Hi can you check my CRT please

Can you tell me which tier this quote would be?

In each reality there is an abstract entity that represents א⁰, the countable infinity of the set of natural numbers. In the confrontation between Captain Universe and Omni-Numerical, infinite infinity is mentioned, and א⁰.

Hello, sorry to bother you but could you please take a look at this thread

Hello, Antvasima mentioned you should be invited to take a look at this thread should you have time: https://vsbattles.com/threads/new-black-hole-creation-feat-formula-proposal.168955/

If you have some time, could you comment here?

Would this be BDE1 or BDE2, or anything at that?

「ハハハ、それはね、ボクが全知全能なんかじゃないからさ。生まれた時は、ボクの意思だけがあった。その時は満たされていて、欠けたるものなど何一つなかった。完全無欠、〝全なる一〟──つまり、ボクしかいない世界だったんだ。そんなの、つまらないだろう？」 なるほどと、ギィは思った。 ギィだから、理解出来た。 つまりヴェルダナーヴァは、自らの意思で〝全知全能〟を捨てたのだ、と。

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I'm not at all omniscient or omnipotent, you know. When I was born, all that existed was my will. It was complete, fully, not a piece missing to it, I was the only one in the world, the “all-inclusive one”-that is, the only one in the world. Wouldn't that be boring?
I see, Guy thought. Because it was Guy, he understood. In other words, Veldanava gave up “omniscience and omnipotence” of his own volition.

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Note : The character named Veldanava is not the same thing as this All-inclusive entity, they exist independently of each other but have a kind of a special connection

If you have some time, could you comment here, please?

Can you give some input here

Can you give some input here

I have one very wierd question, would Brahman from Hinduism qualify for tier 0?

I'd like your input here, please.

Can you give your input here

Second time, opinion appreciated in the small Homestuck omnipresence CRT as one of the only two mods listed in the Homestuck supporters

Hi, sorry to bother you again but this topic is something I need to wrap my head around for LotR.

"Are there any 'bounds to a writer's job' except those imposed by his own finiteness? No bounds, but the laws of contradiction, I should think."

This quote was used to describe the role of the Sub-Creator rather than the Creator I believe, as in Tolkien himself and other authors in the "Real World", this cosmologically puts the "Real World" as High 1-A+

The "Real World" is viewed by Eru as fiction again, being that Eru is author of even "us" and that's wonderful support for Tier 0.

However, the "Primary Reality" that the Ainur reside in is described as, at the very least, on par with the "Real World" in existence if not above it (depending on how literally the Timeless Halls are Eru's abode. It's the awkward situation of Seraphim around God's Throne sort of thing).

The Ainur in their origin at the very least rival "authors" in terms of existence (with the Valar being granted titles as Sub-Creators in their own right, albeit in reference to their work in making the material world).

So going back to my earlier rushed reactionary comment, would this result in the entire race (and the many existing sub-creators) being High 1-A+ in origin? Was it not only possible for only 1 character to be High 1-A+ per verse?

Of course this is assuming that the transferring of the quote to Sub-Creators doesn't shake the quote's usability too much.

Sorry to bother you, but I have a question: What is the Tier of the Inaccessible cardinals and Berkeley cardinals under the new system?

If you have some time, could you comment on this, please?

I didn't know you was Brazilian, it's good to know that we have a representative from Brazil at vsbtles.

Hello!
Sorry for bothering, I know you are busy right now.
But wanted to ask will there be QnA thread about the changes or we can just ask them here?
since I have a lot of questions not just from myself, but many others that can't speak English hahaha kinda representing them
Thanks

Hey Ultima, I've got something I want clarifying. How knowledgeable are you on Hilbert Spaces?

Ultima can you give input on this?


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Need your input here please

Hi

Hello, Ultima. I have a question regarding this post of yours, which was used to counter a comment of mine

Da question : If there are different Space-time continuums with different flows of time and unsynchronized time axes, and than there's a Space those 4D space-times [that is not insignificant], that Space itself would be 4D, than if lets say that 4D space is the spatiality of a higher space-time that contains the prior mentioned Space-times, with the higher space-time having its own Time axis, would that higher space-time be 5D, or still 4D?

Regards.

Can i dm you about abstract things?

Salve Ultima, eu sou aquele rigelbr7 do servidor da dbw. Por quê tem me bloqueou? Poderia me responder só umas duas dúvidas que tenho?

Hello Ultima, do you think Uatu High 1-A is justified? although the word multiverse can be used for Low 1-A universe, There's still an arguments can be made which I can present, Hope you can help.