The Real World Discussion Thread

H3110l12345I20 said:

I suppose there's a potential argument to be made about the wasp having a comparable problem solving feat.

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Train hits and kills 2 wild elephants in Sri Lanka as 2 of its fuel-carrying tankers derail

Authorities in Sri Lanka say a train carrying thousands of gallons of fuel hit a herd of wild elephants in the country's northeast, killing two of the giant mammals and injuring one other as two of its tankers got derailed.

apnews.com

COLOMBO, Sri Lanka (AP) — A train carrying thousands of gallons of fuel hit a herd of wild elephants in northeast Sri Lanka, killing two of the giant mammals and injuring one other as two of its tankers got derailed, authorities said.

The collision happened in the town of Minneriya — about 200 kilometers (124 miles) from the capital, Colombo — renowned for its nature park and wildlife.

The train driver told The Associated Press that the herd of nearly 20 elephants suddenly tried to cross over the railway track Friday.

“There was about 10 meters (32 feet) between us. So, we couldn’t do anything. We pressed the breaks to their maximum capacity, but there was nothing much we could do. At least four elephants were knocked down.” N.W. Jayalath said.

The train had eight tankers — five carrying diesel and another three petrol, each with a capacity of 50,000 liters (about 132,000 gallons), Jayalath said. Two of the petrol tankers got derailed, causing a significant leakage and severely damaging railway tracks and forcing authorities to suspend the train services on that line, he added.

The train compartment harboring the conductor also got derailed. The train also had two other railway personnel besides the driver. None of the four were injured.

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“This is the first time I saw this kind of incident,” V.J. Jackson, a Minneriya resident, said. “We came here after hearing the honking of the train and the screaming of the elephants. We saw elephants lying everywhere and the train had derailed.”



Hasini Sarathchandra, the publicity officer of the wildlife department said the two elephants were killed on site while the injured one was treated and released back to its herd.

Minneriya National Park draws thousands of tourists each year hoping to see elephants in their wild habitats. It is part of the “elephant corridor that connects Kaudulla and Wasgamuwa National parks” which allows for elephant sightings year-round.

Though elephants are revered in the Indian Ocean island nation, they are endangered with their numbers dwindling from about 14,000 in the 19th century to 6,000 in 2011, according to the country’s first elephant census.


Elephant-train collisions have gone up in recent years in Sri Lanka, with wild elephants attempting to cross over railway tracks in search of food and water. They are increasingly vulnerable because of the loss and degradation of their natural habitat and many venture closer to human settlements in search of food. Some are killed by poachers or farmers angry over damage to their crops.

According to the government statistics, seven elephants have died this year after being knocked down by trains while 24 died in 2023.

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Dark_Soul20189 said:

I did some research to see if I could find any values or learn more about the incident. And I think I may or may not have found it.

Train hits and kills 2 wild elephants in Sri Lanka as 2 of its fuel-carrying tankers derail

Authorities in Sri Lanka say a train carrying thousands of gallons of fuel hit a herd of wild elephants in the country's northeast, killing two of the giant mammals and injuring one other as two of its tankers got derailed.

apnews.com

This news article may or may not be the correct one, but regardless it presents us with some values and knowledge that it's a relatively common issue in Sri Lanka.

While as mentioned above, I don't think it will be a durability feat, but rather a hard durability cap.


Quoting the news article if you don't wanna click on the link.


By BHARATHA MALLAWARACHI
Updated 1:57 PM GMT+1, October 19, 2024

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Flashlight237 said:

I checked. Assuming the tankers are loaded (5 diesel and 3 petrol for a total of 325000 kg of fuel) and assuming a speed of 5.56 m/s at most, and just the math from a train that slow was worth 5023460 joules. This is just me doing quick math on a phone calculator.

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Dark_Soul20189 said:

So a limit on High 8C? That is actually extremely good.

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Flashlight237 said:

What?????????

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Dark_Soul20189 said:

I am shit at transferring joules too AP/Durability

But ain't 5000k joules High 8C?

There is a reason I don't do calcs for the website, I don't understand the scaling

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Dalesean027 said:

Nooo you got the wrong number 5023460 Joules = 0.001200 Tons (Wall level)

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Flashlight237 said:

Okay, so I have punch forces listed for real-world boxers here: https://www.researchgate.net/figure...-Number-of-Hits-by-Boxer-for-Six_tbl2_4744109

Oddly enough, there is no correlation between weight and punch force. Odd considering Super Featherweight/Junior Lightweight goes from 126 to 130 lbs while Heavyweight starts at 200 lbs.

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Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer said:

There sorta is, but it also depends on biomechanics as well
It depends on how well the fighters are transferring their mass (assuming the mass is more muscle and bone rather than fat since muscle and bone are the main driving generators and impactors so they contribute to mass and strength and durability, but fat can also contribute to mass and durability as well) and speed (their acceleration and overall velocity) into a strike or throw or grapple in general

Generally:
Heavier: more mass (hence more strength and durability) but more effort needed to reach high speed (slower acceleration and possibly slower overall speed)
Lighter: less mass (hence less strength and durability) but less effort needed to reach high speed (faster acceleration and possibly faster top speed)

However, this is assuming that the fighters are all actually properly transferring as much of their mass and generating as much speed as quickly as they can (K = 1/2 mv^2, F=ma, etc etc)
Of course, it'd differ based on the type of strike, throw or grapple being observed/measured
(Consider the difference in these techniques:
Jab
Straight/Cross
Hammerfist
Hook
Rotating Backfist
Superman Punch

Front Leg Front/Roundhouse/Side Kick
Rear Leg Front/Roundhouse/Side Kick
Rotating Kicks (Reverse Back Kick, Reverse Roundhouse, etc)
Aerial Kicks (Tornado 360/540 Kicks, etc)

Leg Throws (Ashi Waza)
Hip Throws (Koshi Waza)
Hand Throws (Te Waza)
Sacrifice Throws (Sutemi Waza)

etc etc)

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Flashlight237 said:

That's the thing... The article the table itself came from said in its abstract that there's no correlation.

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