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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Arkenis said:
I've given you several statements and tried explaining the narrative to you. You disagree. Don't talk like I haven't given you anything, you're just unsatisfied with what I have said.
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Your claim was that Maki is faster than Kenjaku and would beat Kenjaku. Your evidence is that Toji was stated to be "superhuman" in physicals one time.... come on bro
Arkenis said:
He deadass mentioned Hig and Kashimo and one student, Yuta. How are you getting that it's to contrast Maki from the students? And this scene literally talks about how these characters represent the peaks of Jujutsu. you're just biased and making it plainly obvious.
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This is just dishonest, I'm obviously referring to the students side of things - like the good guys not literally the people who are students of jujutsu academy. My reasoning for bringing up the distinction was that it's about a group that doesn't include Kenjaku or anyone beyond that group, which is what I focused on in my argument, making a semantic disagreement like this is a joke. Anyway, please again show why this statement AT ALL includes Kenjaku.
Arkenis said:
You're not asking for evidence, you're making me do a pointless task. We've both read the manga, you know what the manga says about Maki's senses. I don't need to go collect the stuff you already read just for you to argue and downplay her senses like you already did.
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I did ask for evidence, you can call it a "pointless task" but you simply can't prove your claims and are trying to make it some negative thing for me to point out as if that isn't argumentation 101.
Arkenis said:
Because this wasn't about feats? I told this from the start. Going off feats kinda defeats the purpose, that's why I try to explain the portrayal but you disagree.
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"Maki lacks feats to support this"
"Maki has feats!"
"what are those feats?"
"THIS ISN'T ABOUT FEATS"

okay...
Arkenis said:
Yeah and I disagree with this interpretation. Sukuna's statement, Yuki's statement and Maki's senses together make it out to be Maki's portrayal is that of a superior superhuman compared to sorcerers.
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You're just repeating your conclusion without engaging with the conversation revolving around these statements or substantiating why your interpretation is more accurate or likely to the source material over mine whilst I have done so.
Arkenis said:
You're leaving out the part where she said "truly". She doesn't say he's just superhuman. No one you mentioned was called truly superhuman. No one said top 3. Kashimo's not called superhuman, it's said his body has surpassed the limits of mankind IN reference to his body now being able to generate any phenomena that can be created through electricity. In no way is it meant to tell us Kashimo is superior to anyone like Maki's portrayal is. Yuji's demon god statement is IN reference to Yuji's newly gained control of his ce, not his speed, not his strength, not his senses, he isn't compared to sorcerers. It's laughable because you're viewing it by itself and that allows you to dismiss the interpretation.

Again for the last time, this is about Maki's speed and sense allowing her to move faster than other's not that she's gonna blitz everyone around, not that's she and Toji are top 3.
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"truly" just puts emphasis, doesn't give it any new meaning, and I've already went over the context of the conversation to highlight why Yuki would use it in that way, you know the same way we can do the same for all the other statements of superhuman ability in the manga? Either way, I looked up the raws, and "truly" isn't even there, YUKI ONLY SAYS SUPERHUMAN 💀

So lets see Arkenis come up with new cope as to why this doesn't change anything!
 
AstralKing7 said:
I can see it being 5B maybe higher
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PowerToScale said:
I change my mind, Low 2-C EoS
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AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
JJK fans are truly some of the most brainrotted fans in history. Can’t beat JoJo’s fans tho. Those mfs didn’t even know how a refrigerator worked
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This legitimately has to be the most bipolar fanbase in all of history. Between the comparisons to MHA and AoT's endings, people seething about Gojo and ignoring what his character was about, and everyone thinking that you're not allowed to have an opinion on the ending that isn't "it was bad/it was good/it was rushed/it should of never ended"

The lobotomy has gotten so powerful that both the western and eastern fans are on the same wavelength.
 
Shmooply said:
This legitimately has to be the most bipolar fanbase in all of history. Between the comparisons to MHA and AoT's endings, people seething about Gojo and ignoring what his character was about, and everyone thinking that you're not allowed to have an opinion on the ending that isn't "it was bad/it was good/it was rushed/it should of never ended"
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Gege just got effect lmao. Surprised no one's compared to it to older shonens.

Shmooply said:
The lobotomy has gotten so powerful that both the western and eastern fans are on the same wavelength.
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If both are doing it that means there's consensus on the ending not being well received. Nothing wrong with it not being the best ending. People are dragging it definitely, it does feel half done or like Gege just wanted to be done with it.
 
Arkenis said:
If both are doing it that means there's consensus on the ending not being well received. Nothing wrong with it not being the best ending. People are dragging it definitely, it does feel half done or like Gege just wanted to be done with it.
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For as much as it’s being dragged it’s def not being dragged to the level of MHA which became a laughingstock on social media for weeks straight.

JJK is kinda just mixed and it has plenty of defenders
 
Shmooply said:
It's only being compared to Bleach at the moment. Since, y'know, Kubo being the inspiration, and the fact the ending reeks of "I'm gonna let some poor third party shmuck make a light novel that solves every plotline and ties everything together"
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Look a LN would still be nice. The manga just won't do it justice
 
Undylan said:
With jjk ended. What are the top ten most powerful characters in jjk?
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1.Sukuna
2. Gojo
3-5. Yorozu/Kenny/Yuki
6. Shinjuku Yuta
7-9. Kashimo/Hakari/Uraume
10. Ryu

Honorable mention
Uro
Miguel
Geto
Shinjuku Todo

I'm gonna leave out Maho (Shikigami so don't really want to place it in the list) and Yuji (dude is most hated inverse character here. Not interested in dealing with his haters paragraph spamming for his placement)
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Still curious to know what the heck happened with Uro
Or the USA knowing about Cursed Energy
Or Mahito using his Idle Transfiguration to cheat death and not reincarnate
Or Sukuna's finger making a sound in the final panel
Or the conclusion of the big three families
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All of this will be answered in Bujutsu Baisen. Staring Bika, the heir to the Zen'in Clan, and the child of Maki and Yuta, with Megumi being his uncle sidekick. Together they will stop the US government from shoving the souls of curse users and cursed spirits into nuclear reactors to make even more powerful energy. Featuring a side-quest in Africa.

In the final arc, a bearded Yuji with cyborg arms will aid them.
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