• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

I have a single goal on the wiki now, to make Dragon Ball canon have infinite or immeasurable speed (i have faith that someday i will achieve this and even if it is for just a single character)
 
Literally 1 minute earlier

"I'm going to give y'all the silent treatment if y'all make another Tier 1 Dragon Ball thread though. That original one nearly killed me."
Yes, but he was always a good person with us, he always defended us, he is a good administrator and i recognize him
 
just don't expect me to fully understand it properly or give much in the way of conversation
you can thank extremely complicated and often changing standards (and we all know standards sometimes change explicitly to keep some verse from achieving something this is true for things other than tier 1 as well) for that as well as extremely abstract analogies/examples and terminology that arent very helpful at explaining the standards.
 
I have a single goal on the wiki now, to make Dragon Ball canon have infinite or immeasurable speed (i have faith that someday i will achieve this and even if it is for just a single character)

Vegeta in marvel so they share the same cosmology/multiverse

boom

EzI5pW9.jpg
 
Just my two pesos ...

The DBS manga lacks everything that gives you attention but somehow its always in the top 10-20

Story is subjective and ihmo even harder to judge cause its a monthly manga

I mean things like big explosions, fan services like "good looking" girls (if you know what i mean) and all the other stuff that gets the attention

Toyo must been doing something right. Do your own thing Toyo. Eat good and sleep well. **** powerscalers.

Dont **** up UI ... thats the only thing I want. Please Broooo :(
In my honest perspective, I have a very complicated opinion in regards to Toyotaro as an author.

On the one hand: His art is very great and is pretty damn close to being similar to the original manga, he has a pretty good balance when it comes to fight scenes and is able to make them destructive while having chorography to them, there are moments where he gives us good characterization, and I personally believe that Toyotaro is at his best when he's doing his own arcs and not following stuff from the anime or movies.

But on the other hand: I consider his versions of the U6, Goku Black, and ToP arcs to be worse then the anime version, he's a fan of shifting the goalpost and changing the position that characters are in power wise (I'm referring to Beerus in particular in this regard, introduces concepts to the narrative that I think are either unnecessary or ask questions that I believe weren't needed in the first place, and for every good characterization he has there's an equally as dog shit characterization to counter balance it in a very frustrating matter (I hate how he portrays Goku in the manga, it's some of the worst regression of a preestablished character which I have ever seen).

So usually how I treat Toyotaro is that he is, at best, a good enough author for Dragon Ball. And at worst, he's PAINFULLY mediocre and I have found that are fan authors out there that do a better job then Toyo does. But yeah like I said, very complicated opinion on the guy.
 
In my honest perspective, I have a very complicated opinion in regards to Toyotaro as an author.

On the one hand: His art is very great and is pretty damn close to being similar to the original manga, he has a pretty good balance when it comes to fight scenes and is able to make them destructive while having chorography to them, there are moments where he gives us good characterization, and I personally believe that Toyotaro is at his best when he's doing his own arcs and not following stuff from the anime or movies.

But on the other hand: I consider his versions of the U6, Goku Black, and ToP arcs to be worse then the anime version, he's a fan of shifting the goalpost and changing the position that characters are in power wise (I'm referring to Beerus in particular in this regard, introduces concepts to the narrative that I think are either unnecessary or ask questions that I believe weren't needed in the first place, and for every good characterization he has there's an equally as dog shit characterization to counter balance it in a very frustrating matter (I hate how he portrays Goku in the manga, it's some of the worst regression of a preestablished character which I have ever seen).

So usually how I treat Toyotaro is that he is, at best, a good enough author for Dragon Ball. And at worst, he's PAINFULLY mediocre and I have found that are fan authors out there that do a better job then Toyo does. But yeah like I said, very complicated opinion on the guy.
Toyotaro was a fan who hurt Toriyama's successor.

The guy before DB doesn't seem to have had any kind of start or anything.

Generally authors have several one-shots and mangas, or worked as an assistant with famous manga artists for a long period of time before making their own manga. As far as I remember Toyotaro didn't have anything like that (I could be wrong)

His original art and designs are good and really reflect the essence of DB in general.

His comics has improved although I think it's average compared to other current mangas. It's not even fair when comparing his comics with Toriyama because Toriyama is one of the best mangakas in that aspect.
 
People keep asking me to evaluate their tier 1 threads regardless of if I don't want them too. Also, I can still talk about it (express my opinion on doubting what qualifies), just don't expect me to fully understand it properly or give much in the way of conversation, I'm just not actively going to seek it out and keep my distance.

I'm going to give y'all the silent treatment if y'all make another Tier 1 Dragon Ball thread though. That original one nearly killed me.
Yeah I understand, that thread was such a mess.
 
So uh, its gonna be interesting how they explain Daima's timeframe and why no one talked about it in Super despite it presumably taking place before end of Z (seems like a repeated pattern, we have so much stuff going on before end of Z)
 
So uh, its gonna be interesting how they explain Daima's timeframe and why no one talked about it in Super despite it presumably taking place before end of Z (seems like a repeated pattern, we have so much stuff going on before end of Z)
it just happens after Super, simple enough
 
Super currently is a year or so before EoZ, Daima can just happen between both
Sure but that’s still kinda confusing. How does this tie into EoZ without feeling inconsistent
where is the information that it is before Super even came from btw?
Just read some speculations online. I don’t fully believe it because if it’s before Super then Shin and Kibito can’t be separate unless the wish did something
 
Sure but that’s still kinda confusing. How does this tie into EoZ without feeling inconsistent
How can you say it is inconsistent without knowing how it plays out?

Just read some speculations online. I don’t fully believe it because if it’s before Super then Shin and Kibito can’t be separate unless the wish did something
Exactly, Kibitoshin not being a thing shows that it is after Super
 
Back
Top