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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

EldemadeDityjon said:
All death paintings should default have blood manipulation due to Kamo clan bloodline. But they have some unique technique related to blood. Like Corrosion, Poison.

Looking at how Yuji already has his hands transformation. Black flash awakening might give him full body transformation like Mahito (I hope he does).
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I've always thought that Yuji was using gauntlets similar to that Cursed Tool that Yuta used. Also, he is definitely realizing Sukuna's innate technique with this awakening
 
Rosa said:
Choso can use Eso's techniques (3bros state vs Kenjaku), so 'rot' is likely just a specific application of blood manipulation, though idk what fanbook statement you're referring to so maybe I'm wrong
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They list rot as a different technique to blood manipulation

Arkenis said:
Please read the manga bro. I'm begging you. Rot is just the name, it is still blood he controls
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OK? That doesn’t mean it’s the same. A cursed technique is like a program:
  • rot and blood manipulation use the same programming language
  • they both manipulate blood
  • they’re not the same technique
Under this analogy, Kamo and Choso have the same code and programming language in them. If they were the same technique, then they’d be listed as the same technique but they’re not.
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
They list rot as a different technique to blood manipulation


OK? That doesn’t mean it’s the same. A cursed technique is like a program:
  • rot and blood manipulation use the same programming language
  • they both manipulate blood
  • they’re not the same technique
Under this analogy, Kamo and Choso have the same code and programming language in them. If they were the same technique, then they’d be listed as the same technique but they’re not.
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What are you even saying? You said
Guacamolefletcher said:
eso doesn’t have blood manipulation,
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I'm just telling you he does have blood manip.
 
Arkenis said:
I'm just telling you he does have blood manip.
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He manipulates blood, but he doesn't have the cursed technique called blood manipulation

Blood manipulation in-universe here is a specific cursed technique, not any ability to manipulate blood. Rot is listed as a different technique:


蝕爛腐術 "Corrosion technique" (Rot)

赤血操術 = "Blood Manipulation Technique"
 
Rosa said:
"this is Eso's" - yea that's blood manip
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It must be a different application of rot or applying rot to this:


I will say, I also remember this and this has gotta be some type of anti feat. He took so long to kill 1,000 transfigured humans, goddamn. I bet Naoya would do it quicker
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
"Lend me a hand Yuta this is base Uraume we're up against"
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this is when it pays to have a busted domain like Hakari. His domain is a real good counter vs other domains, yeah, but against people like Uraume it'd be better to be like Yuta. This is why I think Hakari said Yuta is more auspicious, and why Yuta is second to Gojo, he's too versatile and works for almost every situation
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
I will say, I also remember this and this has gotta be some type of anti feat. He took so long to kill 1,000 transfigured humans, goddamn. I bet Naoya would do it quicker
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That's possibly true but only b/c Naoya wouldn't care about threatening the lives of anyone he deems weak, let alone any bystanders or non-sorcerers. He'd just blitz through not caring if he hits anyone or if the sheer speed he reaches causes waves that ruptures someone's internal organs or wind that crashes them into a nearby wall.
 
JnSteHar002 said:
That's possibly true but only b/c Naoya wouldn't care about threatening the lives of anyone he deems weak, let alone any bystanders or non-sorcerers. He'd just blitz through not caring if he hits anyone or if the sheer speed he reaches causes waves that ruptures someone's internal organs or wind that crashes them into a nearby wall.
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This doesn't appear for Gojo for majority of the series.
 
Rosa said:
when we calcing this?


edit: did the piercing bloods force send Choso flying upwards? 😭
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Planning on doing it once HD scans come out

GunshyFever said:
BF is 1 microsecond which is Mach 2938.67 (MHS+), Gojo can just scale to that honestly
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Thing about this is is it actual reaction speed or would it be more like thinking/perception speed cause something like reactions or combat speed needs actual movement within said timeframe. BF kinda just means you apply cursed energy to an attack within that 1 microsecond timeframe which doesn't really mean much other than you can think that fast
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Thing about this is is it actual reaction speed or would it be more like thinking/perception speed cause something like reactions or combat speed needs actual movement within said timeframe. BF kinda just means you apply cursed energy to an attack within that 1 microsecond timeframe which doesn't really mean much other than you can think that fast
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Yeah this makes sense for the most part but this chapter practically lifts the MHS+ cap, so what's really stopping this from being a thing. MHS+ no longer has to be a cap for god tiers
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Planning on doing it once HD scans come out
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I thought about it and NGL, the speed of the PB might be slower because the force is both pushing the blood out and Choso away in the opposite direction

Also:
Here is why black flash still caps the verse:
It’s still insanely long for a punch to actually elapse.

If Gojo punches Sukuna w/ black flash, it means the punch took 1 millionth of a second at least.

Hypothetically speaking, if Sukuna is ftl, he can move like 8000 meters in that black flash timeframe, so how could he ever get tagged and stay in a position when it’s 1 millionth of a second?
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Sukuna avoiding Kashimo's EM waves might be aim-dodging considering we see him looking at Kashimo's hand in his face before the attack is fired
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You’d be arguing that Sukuna can pull out of the way of a literal beam of light in about a 300 millionth of a second, but then he can’t pull out of a black flash from Gojo in just a millionth of a second, basically, and that makes no sense at all
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
You’d be arguing that Sukuna can pull out of the way of a literal beam of light in about a 300 millionth of a second, but then he can’t pull out of a black flash from Gojo in just a millionth of a second, basically, and that makes no sense at all
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Aim-dodging means he moves before the attack is fired. Also Gojo saying he can nail the timeframe doesn't necessarily limit the application of his Cursed Energy to a microsecond. It could be even less than that for all we know, which tracks when you consider that his dialogue implies he can easily nail the time frame, what with him having used and successfully landed Black Flash a lot
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Aim-dodging means he moves before the attack is fired. Also Gojo saying he can nail the timeframe doesn't necessarily limit him to a microsecond. It could be less than that
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The issue I mentioned exists. Gojo still can’t be FTL

Sukuna isn’t sitting there waiting to be hit by the black flash’s flash, it’s instantaneous to them
 
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