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Extremely strongly agreed. Period.
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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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Also GOLLY we have some wankers here
Animal man ain't ever being High 1-A
Animal man ain't ever being High 1-A
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That's... not really a way to make a valid argument
If that's the case verses like FORKNIFE can come in and steal our scaling
Also crossover scaling in general is cringe and very Might of Geburah-esque
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Superman's most valid outerverse level feat is destroying forger's masterpiece, i think you can argue it
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He needed amps for it it's not something he can normally do
If you wanna use matchups that involve that specific superman or what ifs you can
It's just a one off thing that throws consistency off
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Fifth Dimensional energy is just a lie, mxyz & forger have an agreement to trick & isolated Superman, because supes with his idealism is threatening forger's plan to replace the whole multiverse.
External power or Temporary power are common in DC, otherwise they cant be written as a hero in the city. Tdk also got power from external, and also anti crisis wonder woman.
Ww need whole living things to get her anti crisis ww. And to have the power she need to put his lasso to the forge world that rich of tenth metal, the substance inside every living things. So when she put lasso to world forge she able to tie everything with her lasso at the same time. This is extreme situation external power but she have it in her profile. At this point she needs whole characters and more + world forge because she cant tie everything with lasso 1 by 1.
We also planning to make king omega Superman profile, supes get that power from another character. And doomsday collected that power by countless planets, realities. Which is also extreme situation external power and that power fades, Superman will lost it at the end of time.
That's just my question
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Even if its canonical we can apply that logic to Fortnite as both FORKNIFE and Marvel/DC treat their stuff as canon
Someone tried doing that but here we stop crossover scaling so it's not as mess
Aka
Using this is a keyhole for the Fortnite people to slip in and steal our scaling
You dont want goku > superman do you?
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Fair enough about the external power
But WW and the **** who giggles have forms for it and it was there for narrative purposes
If you wanna argue 1-A supes imo the best way is the story of superman
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Superman was externally ascended to a much higher level of existence in the Sixth Dimension, which automatically powered him up immensely. That is how the DC Comics cosmology explicitly works, whether you like it or not.
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If you want to upgrade it using story of superman, you can use scan that world forger want to kill supes and lock his essence forever. World forger also admitted, Superman as a prime version (main earth version) able to survive the trap and kill world forger itself.
You can do it if you want, im lazy waiting staff's input
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Yeah let's wait for staff input
Because I think the SoS is the best way to get outer supes
As All In showed
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Batman, ww & other also using the same portal door. Myxzptlk stated that sixth dimension is beyond his comprehenssion, if entering sixth dimension will ascend the character why not he just enter it and explain there. He will got same power up right, maybe myxzptlk in sixth dimension able to solos the monitor brother.Superman was externally ascended to a much higher level of existence in the Sixth Dimension, which automatically powered him up immensely. That is how the DC Comics cosmology explicitly works, whether you like it or not.
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All In is good evidence for SoS, yeah. It explicitly referred to Darkseid as an essential primal force that Superman is a direct opposite of, what with him embodying the raw fundamental energy of Hope. Both are fundamental aspects to DC's world and they mesh together like yin and yang.
On a similar note, I just finished Action Comics #554 and I think this comic helps out as further evidence with SoS being a fundamental concept with DC. It shows a world where there are no heroes, no wars, no violence, but humanity is enslaved by an alien race seeking to conquer them. When two boys draw upon the idea of a hero protecting them, the idea of hope, Superman manifests out of nowhere. The heroic concept of Superman and the mythical belief in him makes him manifest in this world where the idea of a hero does not exist.
I'm firmly of the belief that SoS is the way forward for Outer Superman if anyone wants to push it.
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Antagon is described as the vastness, trueness of unreality itself, the unitary existent before all things. The true antithesis of everything, the ineffable hate being the very monad of denial. Being God's contradiction. Buddy Baker and his buddies then beat him by taking the powers of the very placeless and timeless nature of the M-Field to imagine everything where they became the very template for everything.
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Unreality also exists within DCs map
The Fourth World is said to be beyond reality and unreality, the whole sphere is said to be unreal too etc
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Antagon is more descriptive and conceptual as he was before everything and is the anti God that exists purely as the nature of the incomprehensibility of the Void that existed beyond the world of Anima Mundi. He is also the very essence of hate, evil, darkness, non-being of The Void.
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The fourth world is unreality in the sense of it is more real than material reality or spacetime but not in the sense of a primordial nothingness. So they are beyond reality but not unreality.
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I'll link the scan but it's from Kirbys work
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In the comic it is described as the M field which Embodies all the energies of existence where they're the core and root of all reality, as to being substances of a place where the vastness of Creation itself is rooted deep within all things making it the Field from which all things were brought. Basically all of existence.
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Yes the fourth world is not bound by physics but isn't it still bounded by the larger creation or existence within DC? Antagon is the primordial darkness and the true antithesis of everything.
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The same can be said for Nekron who is of the Sphere
Prove Antagon is the greater antag and not am aspect of TGD just like Nekron
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The M-field is on the level of the Sphere
And creation/reality is contextual. For example it could mean the Bleed
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Does anyone know how to delete notifications here
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Antagons DC wiki page
Yeah no cuz @Wirtzwest with all due respect you're wanking Antagon a bit. He's the spawn of the great darkness just like Nekron
You can at best scale him to Nekron
Yeah no cuz @Wirtzwest with all due respect you're wanking Antagon a bit. He's the spawn of the great darkness just like Nekron
You can at best scale him to Nekron
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The buck samson scan does not direct it to being a spawn of the TGD. Antagon took one of the animal masters as his avatar. In order to drown of all existence into the darkness before creation. Antagon itself is self begotten.
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In the context of animal man creation was everything.
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Bro pulled a Gojo on Manchester
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It is kinda like gojo lol
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Antagon from issue 50 of animal man is death, fear and darkness
After buddy baker and crew did the whole nature American mythology thing they accessed a reality beyond the physical one and undid Antagon
All of this from Animal Man #50
I'll give you credit in that he was a threat to The M-Field and The Source
But he was still undid by creations forces in the universe unseen
Also big emphasis on CREATED reality
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Subjective reality and immersion tooNew prime ability dropped
Also funny since now he counters everything Sentry can do
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Superman is back already
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What comic?
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action comic #1100
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Mark Waid... ugh
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If it Makes u feel better, Joshua writes the second half lol
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At least
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Could that be the reason why i got bored in the first half...
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