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Although isn't Tatsu able to twist people from afar?
According to our Wiki, it is hundreds of times faster than her, so even a very large distance will not help, not to mention that its radius is also not that small.

One-Punch Man characters are always unlucky if the enemy has a durability bypass and a huge advantage in speed.
 
see this is what i am talking about lmfao
The idea behind defense bypass is to defeat those far stronger than you using cheating abilities. And a massive speed advantage only amplifies this advantage. Because of this, many characters with very limited power defeat much stronger ones. There's nothing unusual here; it's all quite consistent. The characters from JoJo are a good example. You might be impressed by a character's amazingly detailed global feats, visible from space, but the same character wouldn't be able to withstand, say, spatial damage or soul damage from a character who sees them as an immobile statue due to their speed. That's the whole point of hacks.
 
The idea behind defense bypass is to defeat those far stronger than you using cheating abilities. And a massive speed advantage only amplifies this advantage. Because of this, many characters with very limited power defeat much stronger ones. There's nothing unusual here; it's all quite consistent. The characters from JoJo are a good example. You might be impressed by a character's amazingly detailed global feats, visible from space, but the same character wouldn't be able to withstand, say, spatial damage or soul damage from a character who sees them as an immobile statue due to their speed. That's the whole point of hacks.
i am talking about the overwank mach 10 verse to hell and back same with so many other verses also i dont even know what power you are talking about , if he had anything like that he'd of killed everyone with 0 effort
 
i am talking about the overwank mach 10 verse to hell and back same with so many other verses also i dont even know what power you are talking about , if he had anything like that he'd of killed everyone with 0 effort
"MHA is only mach ten"
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i am talking about the overwank mach 10 verse to hell and back same with so many other verses also i dont even know what power you are talking about , if he had anything like that he'd of killed everyone with 0 effort
Taking Mach 10 claims seriously is as absurd as taking Genos's 312 km/s and Watchdog Man's 250 km/h seriously. Especially since he literally once traveled 500+ kilometers faster than the tower fell, which would have taken several minutes at Mach 10, but he did it in less than a second. And there are also feats like those of Deku moving quickly inside a sphere where bullets are static. Or literally the feats when Deku and Shigaraki threw each other across part of the country.

Reminds me of the old Marvel Handbooks where for some reason Thor and Hulk were listed as being able to lift up to 100 tons, or when Josuke from JoJo claimed that his Stand could reach 300 km/h in close combat, when in reality its speed ranged from near-light to faster than light, give or take.

Although it’s possible that I foolishly fell for the ragebaite.
 
According to our Wiki, it is hundreds of times faster than her, so even a very large distance will not help, not to mention that its radius is also not that small.

One-Punch Man characters are always unlucky if the enemy has a durability bypass and a huge advantage in speed.
if it were as you say Tatsumaki would be turbo eliminated by Flashy flash but it don't think The superior speed is enough, even the 2 ninjas who fought with Flashy flash talked about using speed to take down the espers but I think it wouldn't have worked out for them if they went against Tatsumaki...and then Tatsumaki telekinesis works from a distance of hundreds of kilometers and if the distance is not that close All for One won't be able to do anything and his space hax requires him to move his hands and while he does it Tatsumaki already holds him still and squeezes him like a dirty and wet rag even having an immensely superior LS won't be able to do anything AFO also because Tatsumaki just needs the thought to eliminate AFO
and then Afo is ftl only with the rewind which is really horrible for him if it is not from close range because if Tatsumaki manages to do some damage to him Afo will immediately regress to the child version or disappear directly
 
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Taking Mach 10 claims seriously is as absurd as taking Genos's 312 km/s and Watchdog Man's 250 km/h seriously. Especially since he literally once traveled 500+ kilometers faster than the tower fell, which would have taken several minutes at Mach 10, but he did it in less than a second. And there are also feats like those of Deku moving quickly inside a sphere where bullets are static. Or literally the feats when Deku and Shigaraki threw each other across part of the country.

Reminds me of the old Marvel Handbooks where for some reason Thor and Hulk were listed as being able to lift up to 100 tons, or when Josuke from JoJo claimed that his Stand could reach 300 km/h in close combat, when in reality its speed ranged from near-light to faster than light, give or take.

Although it’s possible that I foolishly fell for the ragebaite.
one is the author literally stating the fastest the strongest character ever moved is mach 10 while the other is a small gag image as an extra for a volume with genos as a torso its basically the same as the images of characters holding signs in the volume saying its a work of fiction.

once again its the author word against stuff you people tried to calculate of vague af stuff, i saw like multiple debunks of the feat you are talking about in many different places same with a few others like the nagant bullets, another point is people here take movie feats seriously and pixel scale and use all sort of funny stuff to try and make sense of said feats too , feats that are from a movie where everything in them is wanked to absolute hell ,feats that are according to the time they happen compared to the manga makes no sense since none of said characters ever did anything close to said movie feats during most if not the whole manga, in fact their overwanked movie stuff are so much better than anything they ever did in the manga to such a funny degree its not even funny then you have biased people here who try to push these wanked feats with their over wanked calcs to be true and they do go through cuz there is enough biased people and the opposite happens too where people are biased towards certain verses OPM is one of the biggest examples here.

like movies being cannon ok,the events/story of them being cannon more than fine but the depiction of these events is a big joke most of the time for any series but specifically if they break the absolute piss out of the actual cannon manga and its feats.

like sorry to tell you this but all VS sites/places are a joke, same problems everywhere some are worse than others and this site only known for 1 good thing which is a good place to find feats for verses/characters.

like the bias and making absolute nonsense go through like i swear i saw some building/town lvl verses get wanked to continental or similar stuff constantly and i find that stuff out from other sites not even here hence no one takes the calcs seriously.

i am not too much into battle-scaling cuz its nonsense that almost everytime comes down to what character/verse i like more and how many people the same as me standing behind me compared to the other person so i am usually in these places for series discussions instead.
 
I mean the Genos 312 kmph and WDM 250 kmph movement speed statements are definitely anti-feats we should consider.

However there is obvious context to both feats.

So, Genos 312 kmph. Note that while Genos can fly, he prefers to run because he's much faster on the ground for some reason (see how he literally ran after the Psykos-jet at speeds fast enough to send trucks flying off the highway in this same form), so it's kinda impressive that Genos can move at all with no limbs and most of his boosters destroyed. Most characters aren't very fast if you rip off both their legs and arms.

Then WDM 250 kmph. WDM is also just casually going somewhere and presumably trying not to damage his own city. It's not like he's sprinting and he always seems to arrive on time, so he's just going as fast as he needs to in the moment.
 
one is the author literally stating the fastest the strongest character ever moved is mach 10 while the other is a small gag image as an extra for a volume with genos as a torso its basically the same as the images of characters holding signs in the volume saying its a work of fiction.

once again its the author word against stuff you people tried to calculate of vague af stuff, i saw like multiple debunks of the feat you are talking about in many different places same with a few others like the nagant bullets, another point is people here take movie feats seriously and pixel scale and use all sort of funny stuff to try and make sense of said feats too , feats that are from a movie where everything in them is wanked to absolute hell ,feats that are according to the time they happen compared to the manga makes no sense since none of said characters ever did anything close to said movie feats during most if not the whole manga, in fact their overwanked movie stuff are so much better than anything they ever did in the manga to such a funny degree its not even funny then you have biased people here who try to push these wanked feats with their over wanked calcs to be true and they do go through cuz there is enough biased people and the opposite happens too where people are biased towards certain verses OPM is one of the biggest examples here.

like movies being cannon ok,the events/story of them being cannon more than fine but the depiction of these events is a big joke most of the time for any series but specifically if they break the absolute piss out of the actual cannon manga and its feats.

like sorry to tell you this but all VS sites/places are a joke, same problems everywhere some are worse than others and this site only known for 1 good thing which is a good place to find feats for verses/characters.

like the bias and making absolute nonsense go through like i swear i saw some building/town lvl verses get wanked to continental or similar stuff constantly and i find that stuff out from other sites not even here hence no one takes the calcs seriously.

i am not too much into battle-scaling cuz its nonsense that almost everytime comes down to what character/verse i like more and how many people the same as me standing behind me compared to the other person so i am usually in these places for series discussions instead.
This is accepted and approved on our site. Either don't stay here if you aren't interested in scaling (comparing power levels), or provide a debunk, because so far your words sound like baseless complaints about things that actually happened. As for the movies and feats, it’s not up to you to decide what counts and what doesn’t. If the feats in the movie are more impressive than in the manga, it doesn’t mean anything as long as they are canon. 'They showed it, but I don’t like that it was too large-scale and egregious, so it shouldn’t be considered' — that is very biased. Inconsistency is standard practice for any Shonen, and as a One Punch Man fan, you should know this better than anyone
 
I don't think this thread is a good place debating whether BNHA is Mach 10 or not.

That aside, Genos' speed statement comes from a gag page iirc, which isn't canon. Same reason why Saitama bench pressing 2 black holes isn't.

And about Watchdog Man, we know he purposedly holds back a lot while fighting threats at the level of Garou. And given far weaker characters like Speed o' Sound Sonic have better feats, it's pretty obvious that's not his limit.
 
And about Watchdog Man, we know he purposedly holds back a lot while fighting threats at the level of Garou. And given far weaker characters like Speed o' Sound Sonic have better feats, it's pretty obvious that's not his limit.
I don't know how someone can argue for 312kmph MA Genos when there is quite literally visually and stated sound speed feats from Sonic's first appearance.
 
I mean the Genos 312 kmph and WDM 250 kmph movement speed statements are definitely anti-feats we should consider.

However there is obvious context to both feats.

So, Genos 312 kmph. Note that while Genos can fly, he prefers to run because he's much faster on the ground for some reason (see how he literally ran after the Psykos-jet at speeds fast enough to send trucks flying off the highway in this same form), so it's kinda impressive that Genos can move at all with no limbs and most of his boosters destroyed. Most characters aren't very fast if you rip off both their legs and arms.

Then WDM 250 kmph. WDM is also just casually going somewhere and presumably trying not to damage his own city. It's not like he's sprinting and he always seems to arrive on time, so he's just going as fast as he needs to in the moment.
The contexts you provided either violate narrative logic or are ignored within the manga itself. It makes zero practical sense to make Genos’s flight speed hundreds, if not thousands, of times slower than his running speed, especially since flight as a narrative component has always been the fastest mode of travel, and Genos is no exception, significantly accelerating in the air. Regarding Rover, you're forgetting that 99% of the time, manga ignores the collateral damage of high-speed movement. That’s why most fights involving characters with double-digit or triple-digit Mach speeds leave minimal, if any, environmental damage. For God's sake, look at the Garou vs. Darkshine fight and check their speed stats on their profiles. Then go back and look at the aftermath: they’re just breaking walls. Characters scaled to Country Level only managed to break walls during their conflict, and it was only the final attack that actually pulverized them. Not to mention the surroundings remained unscathed 99% of the time despite their movement, except for a single dash from Darkshine. I could list dozens more fights where the scale of destruction is even lower. Now, remember when Deku accidentally activated 100% of his power and made a dash, pulverizing the entire underground surface with a shockwave and flying up to the clouds just by moving his leg? Rover doesn’t run slow because he’s afraid of causing collateral damage; rather, he runs fast, but the manga simply doesn't care about the real-world physics of such speeds, so you can't justify it as a 'conscious self-limitation.' And the anti-feats don't even end there. Should I bring up the statement that Marugori's (Beefcake's) strike is only equal to a hundred tons? Or should I mention that Darkshine uses a lifting belt to protect his spine during extreme feats, sweating profusely after moving roughly thousands of tons, instead of the millions stated in his profile? Or how about Tatsumaki coughing up blood while lifting mountain-sized boulders? It’s impressive, sure, but if you look at her profile, it raises a question: how can a 5-C tier character, even after a tough battle, struggle with something that is quintillions of times below her tier?
Should I bring up Murata’s statements regarding Boros’s kick being at a high, yet sub-relativistic speed, even in his strongest form and during one of his most powerful attacks, instead of the FTL (faster-than-light) speeds claimed in his profile? Should I mention how Genos in a canon chapter couldn't stop a train, even though based on his tier, he should have been able to stop it with a single finger? What about Garou, whose leg was pierced by a bullet from a B-class hero, Gun Gun—the same bullet that couldn't even penetrate a tree trunk? Or the arrow in that same fight, which pierced his shoulder while falling at terminal velocity? The ground must be incredibly durable if those arrows didn't shatter a mountain-sized tectonic plate upon impact, considering what should have happened based on Garou’s profile and his supposed durability. Or how about Sonic, who treated a hole in a wall as an impressive feat?
This could go on forever. One Punch Man is saturated with anti-feats, inconsistencies, and poor visual scaling for most heroes who aren't at the top of the hierarchy. But no one cares, and no one looks into it—you’ll probably find a million excuses to justify it yourself. But the truth is simple: don’t look for the speck in someone else's eye when you have a log in your own. Let’s approach these manga with an equal standard, without playing these lowballing games.
 
if it were as you say Tatsumaki would be turbo eliminated by Flashy flash but it don't think The superior speed is enough, even the 2 ninjas who fought with Flashy flash talked about using speed to take down the espers but I think it wouldn't have worked out for them if they went against Tatsumaki...and then Tatsumaki telekinesis works from a distance of hundreds of kilometers and if the distance is not that close All for One won't be able to do anything and his space hax requires him to move his hands and while he does it Tatsumaki already holds him still and squeezes him like a dirty and wet rag even having an immensely superior LS won't be able to do anything AFO also because Tatsumaki just needs the thought to eliminate AFO
and then Afo is ftl only with the rewind which is really horrible for him if it is not from close range because if Tatsumaki manages to do some damage to him Afo will immediately regress to the child version or disappear directly
Take a look at the match conditions set here. Tatsumaki’s range advantage becomes irrelevant when, under standard battle assumptions, fighters start only dozens of meters apart. In that case, a hundredfold difference in speed obviously grants a massive advantage. All For One doesn’t need to compete with Tatsumaki in twisting mountains when he can just twist Tatsumaki herself, thanks to his superior speed and hax
 
The contexts you provided either violate narrative logic or are ignored within the manga itself. It makes zero practical sense to make Genos’s flight speed hundreds, if not thousands, of times slower than his running speed,
I mean it does make sense to me here, he's often using his palm boosters and shoulder boosters to accelerate. Genos's flight speed isn't necessarily that much slower than his running speed, but he does prefer to run. You should be focusing on the fact that Genos is missing most of the boosters he uses to fly in this example instead of comparing flight speed and running speed, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's moving at 0.5% normal flight speed here or something.

This could go on forever. One Punch Man is saturated with anti-feats, inconsistencies, and poor visual scaling for most heroes who aren't at the top of the hierarchy. But no one cares, and no one looks into it—you’ll probably find a million excuses to justify it yourself. But the truth is simple: don’t look for the speck in someone else's eye when you have a log in your own. Let’s approach these manga with an equal standard, without playing these lowballing games.
You make it sound like I was critical of MHA for the mach 10 feat at some point? What speck in someone else's eye are you talking about? I haven't even mentioned MHA at all in this conversation...

In any case, although OPM is my favorite verse to scale, I say that our current speed and AP are extremely overinflated for most characters. However, given the rules of the forum the tierings can't be lowered that much from where they are, because we just don't scale to the lowest statements and smallest DC anti-feats when higher calcs are technically valid

If I ran the wiki like a GOD who went purely off generally vibes plus my own calcs with no outside input I would probably scale OPM-verse to, uh, this... also note the characters in paratheses are not really ranked in order, just examples of who I would tier where

C-class: 9-C to 9-B
B-Class (wolf level threats also): 9-B, with some 9-As that really should be a-class and Fubuki is an outlier​
A-class (tiger level threats also): 9-A to 8-C, with outliers in 8-B (Kombu and Amai (base) in like 8-A)​
Demon level threats: 8-C (low), 8-B (mid), 8-A to 7-C (High)​
bottom tier S-class: 8-A (early PPP, Genos's first few upgrades, early Sonic)​
Low tier s-class: 7-C (TTM, MA arc PPP, Suiryu, Council of Swordsmen, Pig God, base Metal Bat)​
Low dragon: high 7-C (Nyan, Gums, most featless dragons)​
Mid dragon and mid S-class: Low 7-Bs and 7-Bs (Base Bang, Atomic, Darkshine, Carnage Kabuto, VFU, Vaccine Man, Beefcake)​
High dragon, high tier s-class: 7-A (Golden S, Rover's dura, Homeless Emperor's big kabooms, Elder Centipede, Sunblade, Flashy)​
Above dragon 1: 6-C, 6-B (Platinum S, Bromance Metal Bat, 10 seconds Genos, Sage Centipede and EOW's AP)​
Above dragon 2: 6-A, High 6-A (Psykorochi, Perfect Fist, EOW's durability, Tatsumaki, released Boros)​
Above dragon 3: 5-C (Meteoric Burst, 4-Armed Garou, base Cosmic Garou)​
BRASTU: 5-B physically, tier 4 with hax (Blast)​
God: Tier 4 to Tier 3 (Cosmic Garou, Saitama, "God")​
 
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I mean it does make sense to me here, he's often using his palm boosters and shoulder boosters to accelerate. Genos's flight speed isn't necessarily that much slower than his running speed, but he does prefer to run. You should be focusing on the fact that Genos is missing most of the boosters he uses to fly in this example instead of comparing flight speed and running speed, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's moving at 0.5% normal flight speed here or something.


You make it sound like I was critical of MHA for the mach 10 feat at some point? What speck in someone else's eye are you talking about? I haven't even mentioned MHA at all in this conversation...

In any case, although OPM is my favorite verse to scale, I say that our current speed and AP are extremely overinflated for most characters. However, given the rules of the forum the tierings can't be lowered that much from where they are, because we just don't scale to the lowest statements and smallest DC anti-feats when higher calcs are technically valid

If I ran the wiki like a GOD who went purely off generally vibes plus my own calcs with no outside input I would probably scale OPM-verse to, uh, this... also note the characters in paratheses are not really ranked in order, just examples of who I would tier where

C-class: 9-C to 9-B
B-Class (wolf level threats also): 9-B, with some 9-As that really should be a-class and Fubuki is an outlier​
A-class (tiger level threats also): 9-A to 8-C, with outliers in 8-B (Kombu and Amai (base) in like 8-A)​
Demon level threats: 8-C (low), 8-B (mid), 8-A to 7-C (High)​
bottom tier S-class: 8-A (early PPP, Genos's first few upgrades, early Sonic)​
Low tier s-class: 7-C (TTM, MA arc PPP, Suiryu, Council of Swordsmen, Pig God, base Metal Bat)​
Low dragon: high 7-C (Nyan, Gums, most featless dragons)​
Mid dragon and mid S-class: Low 7-Bs and 7-Bs (Base Bang, Atomic, Darkshine, Carnage Kabuto, VFU, Vaccine Man, Beefcake)​
High dragon, high tier s-class: 7-A (Golden S, Rover's dura, Homeless Emperor's big kabooms, Elder Centipede, Sunblade, Flashy)​
Above dragon 1: 6-C, 6-B (Platinum S, Bromance Metal Bat, 10 seconds Genos, Sage Centipede and EOW's AP)​
Above dragon 2: 6-A, High 6-A (Psykorochi, Perfect Fist, EOW's durability, Tatsumaki, released Boros)​
Above dragon 3: 5-C (Meteoric Burst, 4-Armed Garou, base Cosmic Garou)​
BRASTU: 5-B physically, tier 4 with hax (Blast)​
God: Tier 4 to Tier 3 (Cosmic Garou, Saitama, "God")​
Speaking of speed statements, I think if you asked ONE how fast the S-class could jog at (not sprint speed) he would probably say...

Child Emperor and Zombieman are slow as hell and are physically a-class heroes in most respects, probably can jog about as fast as a car (75-100 kmph)
The weaker s-class are subsonic at long distances but can sprint at supersonic speeds (mach 0.5-0.9 jogging speed for PPP, TTM, base Metal Bat)
The middle s-class can run for minutes or hours at supersonic speeds and sprint at hypersonic speeds (mach 1-5 jogging, mach 10-50 sprint for Bang/Genos/Darkshine)
The higher tier s-class vary wildly. Tatsumaki can only jog like a normal human on her own two feet but can fly at hypersonic speeds as long as she likes with ease, while Flashy Flash jogs at massively hypersonic speeds and can sprint at Light speeds to FTL.
Blast is just FTL

Since Campo1uc is clearly an MHA fan defending his verse, I will say to you that I think most manga verses are really at most hypersonic travel speeds unless they are frequently travelling beyond planet earth or its equivalent. Reaction and combat speeds are also generally no more than 5-10x above these travel speeds, bar noted technique exceptions and god-tiers

In OPM we know that all the s-class (bar Child and Zombieman) can jog hundreds of kilometers between cities fast enough to dodge a 4.5 radius falling space ship or catch a dragon level threat a couple hundred kilometers away before it can destroy half of a city, but they probably can only sprint at so many mach (and not at relativistic speeds, bar the obvious exceptions).
 
It's because of things like these i'm really glad Murata gave that "Sub-light speed attacks are like a bad joke to Saitama"
Specially when most manga writers will blatantly make a character low end hypersonic, then give them a blatantly FTL (if not straight up stated) feat later as there clearly is no inbetween. (And consider yourself lucky if they dont cap the verse at hypersonic again after the FTL feat)
 
It's because of things like these i'm really glad Murata gave that "Sub-light speed attacks are like a bad joke to Saitama"
Specially when most manga writers will blatantly make a character low end hypersonic, then give them a blatantly FTL (if not straight up stated) feat later as there clearly is no inbetween. (And consider yourself lucky if they dont cap the verse at hypersonic again after the FTL feat)
Yeah, I think ONE and Murata are far more "physics-conscious" than 90% of battle-fiction writers/illustrators. This would be a good example of that

My point is you will almost always get authors stating "mach 1-10" or whatever, even though they like to have people statue hypersonic things or dodge lazers for rule of cool. Likewise, I think Murata does a really good job with powerscaling consistency visually speaking, even if most fights don't have feats that can be calced to tier 6.

In any case, we use calcs in VSBW, so I defer to them if a character has multiple showings in the same "ball-park" and there's no explicit speed statement confirming how fast they are before they do anything.
 
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Take a look at the match conditions set here. Tatsumaki’s range advantage becomes irrelevant when, under standard battle assumptions, fighters start only dozens of meters apart. In that case, a hundredfold difference in speed obviously grants a massive advantage. All For One doesn’t need to compete with Tatsumaki in twisting mountains when he can just twist Tatsumaki herself, thanks to his superior speed and hax
he can't if Tatsumaki blocks him with his thoughts and eliminates him. Afo doesn't have an attack that instantly eliminates the enemy and space manipulation doesn't work instantly so in those few seconds until proven otherwise AFO will be stopped while he's making the movement with his hands and Tatsumaki will eliminate him.
the speed works up to a certain point and the fact that afo's spatial manipulation doesn't work immediately gives Tatsumaki the chance to block him before anything else and disappear him
for me Tatsumaki stomps 8 times out of 10
he just has to look at Afo for a moment and the latter ends up like Gyoro gyoro
 
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This is accepted and approved on our site. Either don't stay here if you aren't interested in scaling (comparing power levels), or provide a debunk, because so far your words sound like baseless complaints about things that actually happened. As for the movies and feats, it’s not up to you to decide what counts and what doesn’t. If the feats in the movie are more impressive than in the manga, it doesn’t mean anything as long as they are canon. 'They showed it, but I don’t like that it was too large-scale and egregious, so it shouldn’t be considered' — that is very biased. Inconsistency is standard practice for any Shonen, and as a One Punch Man fan, you should know this better than anyone
Says the Solo Leveling guy ...this joke writes itself lmao, anyway if you read what i said which seems you didnt outside of not taking this place "scaling" seriously at all as i said i am in most of these sites for "Series discussion" not "Power scaling".

i dont care about my hero its just one of the easiest example to use here but if you want to believe Deku and Co doing stuff in movies that takes place very early in the series but they do feats that makes their entire manga Run feats look like a joke well be my guest i guess lol, you probably think universal Jin wo is a thing too.

and you talking about OPM being inconsistent like its the peak of inconsistency when its one of the least inconsistent mangas ever and one of the most mangas that "Shows" Feats instead of yapping about them while their best showing like hill level or smthn and yet you get people trying to downplay it with stuff that you might think they are saying these stuff while on drugs lmfao.

Also i am not even sure what the whole AFO thing even about all i got from seeing a guy randomly commenting on it here is you all think he's faster than tatsumaki (which is a big LOL) and that he's out there using his powers and spaital powers (does he even have those outside of kurigiri one) like he's some super genius when the dude have the combined brain power of 2 brain cells, the guy who lived like 200 years almost uncontested only taking easy straight forward powers when he could of took a couple varied hard to use but OP powers , learned them and mastered them in a few years which he easily could considering random ass kids can do it in such a short time, if he did that then he could of taken any OP power he wanted after since most powers will be easy to use , are basically the same as ones he already have or very similar so it wouldnt matter and with the rare few new stuff that he should be able to learn and master quickly with his experince.

BUT nope his Big Brain managed to get him to do 2 things for 99% of his showings "ME MAKE BIG FIST AND PUNCH STRONK" and "ME MAKE BIG LAZER SHOCKWAVE THINGY AND SHOOT PEW PEW" yet you are acting like he's out here faster than FF and a big genius using his spaital powers like Blast, or like that kid with lazer belly button making everyone FTL when his lazer is slower than goddamn Tape like lmfao

also do people forget that a heavily injured almost out of battle tatsumaki sensed blast using his spaital powers from inside god dimension that were dozen or more KM underground so it dosent matter eitherway, also i dont think we saw it but i am like 90% sure she can or at least could easily use or learn how to use Spaital powers if she wanted to considering she can easily sense them like that.

Anyway again idrc as i mostly care about series discussions rather than scaling so this whole funky scaling you all do (here or in any other site) is nothing more than a funny joke to me lol.
 
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and then Afo is ftl only with the rewind which is really horrible for him if it is not from close range because if Tatsumaki manages to do some damage to him Afo will immediately regress to the child version or disappear directly
Would AFO even have that along with regeneration in the Hideout Raid arc?
 
Well we are getting off topic talking about MHA scaling when most of us aren't qualified to talk on it nor interested in a super deep discussion...

Perhaps we could make an All For One vs Tatsumaki thread if we need to discuss that specifically further? If MHA fans can compellingly argue that a 6-B's hax and speed advantage of like, 10-50x is enough to realistically beat a slower 5-C telekinetic then that sounds like a good discussion to put on both profiles
 
Well we are getting off topic talking about MHA scaling when most of us aren't qualified to talk on it nor interested in a super deep discussion...

Perhaps we could make an All For One vs Tatsumaki thread if we need to discuss that specifically further? If MHA fans can compellingly argue that a 6-B's hax and speed advantage of like, 10-50x is enough to realistically beat a slower 5-C telekinetic then that sounds like a good discussion to put on both profiles
Yep
 
Starting from very close distance: Tatsumaki loses based on 50x(ig?) speed difference. But only if AFO just goes for it instantly (and use the right abilities that would allow him to kill her).

High distance: Tatsumaki wins.

SBA: Tatsumaki wins as the distance would be four kilometers, which 50x speed advantage can't help AFO to reach Tatsumaki before she finishes him off.
 
Starting from very close distance: Tatsumaki loses based on 50x(ig?) speed difference. But only if AFO just goes for it instantly (and use the right abilities that would allow him to kill her).

High distance: Tatsumaki wins.

SBA: Tatsumaki wins as the distance would be four kilometers, which 50x speed advantage can't help AFO to reach Tatsumaki before she finishes him off.
the thing is that the only possible "stomp" kill hax of AFO is not instant so in that short period of time in which the spatial manipulation is activated in my opinion Tatsumaki makes him end up like Gyoro gyoro since she can practically do it instantly with her gaze...
Anyway anyway it's better not to continue, let's not derail up the thread with this versus 😂
 
I mean what he said about OPM being full of anti feats is just true lol

Besides it was Swagoorago bringing up MHA and being hostile out of nowhere
I believe OPM is very low on anti-feats compared to most verses

Do you know any good series without many anti-feats?
 
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