I am fairly certain it has to be water connected to the ocean... May you please provide proof that it can be any sort of water at all?
Devil Fruit users are weak specifically to being submerged in any kind of water since it's considered "an extension of the sea", but just touching water isn't like kryptonite to them, they have to actively be held in water to be powerless
- SBS Volume 41
Like vsbw users. Shower victims. /j
Erhm, well Devil Fruit users actually can take showers with no problem and can have custom baths made for them! So there! Only Luffy bathes just once a week because he's a stinky animal boy
Unironically, I think the only thing he can do is Water Style, either himself or his Toad Summons. Minato at the very least is smart enough to know that water can counter fire, especially with Shinobi knowledge of Water Chakra > Fire Chakra. But well Ace can easily evaporate that water no?
They wouldn't be equalized like that. I was being careless with my wording and didn't sufficiently explain what I meant. What I'm trying to say is that multipliers like Flash Step or Body Flicker are fine and are allowed to be used how they're depicted. But a specific value gained through scaling, like how Minato has with his Body Flicker, isn't allowed; the difference of 7x specifically, as that's a value gained through scaling, not a stated multiplier.
Tobirama is above Sasuke's reactions?
Don't quite agree with it, but this is the current justification
EMS
Upscaling from 3T FKS Sasuke who reacted to Mifune's light speed slash (don't agree with this applying to Base Mifune but I digress)
I wanted to say Ace nuked an island but then Minato teleports to boku no hero dimension with his interdimensional range, solos the verse and comes back
It's being treated as a blitz amp, not a 7x speed amp unless there's a stated multiplier.
I'm talking about his reactios. He's not blitzing anyone with reactions. His reactions are 7x above his combat speed
Lol
Is it a multiplier or just through scaling? If it's the latter, then Minato's reactions are being treated as just being far higher than combat speed for the sake of the match.
Why?
Yeah, that's absolute garbage
Said by a guy with a Naruto picture, so his words are universal laws that should be respected
...wot?
Unless it's explicitly stated that Minato's reaction speed is 7x higher than his movement or combat speed, it will be equalized. A value derived from scaling isn't accepted here, as the purpose of the equalization is to remove any scaling distinctions from the characters while also allowing them access to all of their abilities, to a certain extent.
Minato was mentally nerfed, which is why Minato isn't mentioned in the justification. Although regardless, it's pretty mid to say he's faster than Sasuke's reactions given the vagueness of the feat.
I'm not questioning Minato being faster than Sasuke
Seeing as Minato's Chakra Control should be comparable to New Era Kakashi, which could resist the coldness of Ice Style. He might fare well against Toshiro's Shikai and Passive Reiatsu, though who's to say about his Bankai.
Again, Tobirama is only faster than a mentally nerfed KCM Minato. It's not an outlier, it's a contextual feat.
I agree, but that's what's accepted rn
Do you mean "in terms of stats, so any matches"?
Stats, abilities, everything.
I don't see how Ace gets to even touch Minato with Shunshin spam, the Yellow Flash amps, etc. Minato would eventually get up close and shoot water at the Flame man
And then Ace nukes the island, gets faster with Haki boost and flame acceleration, precogs him and his passive aura of flames can evaporate water when he can stop blizzards just by being present on an island
Minato puts up one of his many barriers and blocks
Haki resist sealing
So, never?
Ace's Kenbun covers this since he'll know Minato's future location ahead of time and place his attacks there. His accelerated development would also help him keep up.
