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Manjiro Sano Vs Yu The Boxer

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There is literally no evidence behind why he wins, give me one reason.

You disagreeing with the reason does not make them have "no evidence", and there have been plenty presented.


Unless Mikey's fear hax activates instantaneously, the moment the fight starts, and strikes Yu (the emotionless suicidal kid) with such horrific visions of terror that it stuns him in place, there is nothing Mikey can do to avoid getting blitzed at the start of the fight.

But yeah, it comes down to AMP and speed, that together with durability negation makes this match in Yu's favour by a long shot.
 
Your inability to read the profile is not my problem.
Lol, already resorting to insults.
He explicitly did not train. K actively discourages him from training anything not his dura neg or his physique. His technique is complete natural talent
When your statement is lowkey contradicted by scans, but you lowkey don't care cause you have an array of Yu fans behind you.

Son I'm actually crine 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
 
When your statement is lowkey contradicted by scans, but you lowkey don't care cause you have an array of Yu fans behind you.
The fact that you ignored me explicitly mentioning his dura neg as an exception (as well as the note at the bottom of the profile which explicitly states his dura neg is the only ability he had to train to achieve) proves to me that it is not in fact an insult because you clearly just did not read the profile.
 
The fear hax also isn't *****. None of the scans on the profile show it stunning anybody for more than a nanosecond.
 
Btw, i still find it funny how kicking a bottle cap at age 4 and fighting with bad footing somehow is more impressive than Yu
 
But yeah, it comes down to AMP and speed, that together with durability negation makes this match in Yu's favour by a long shot.
Since when was Yu's amp better than Mikey's amp when Mikey goes from getting mid diffed to one-shotting and not feeling a single graze of punch by characters who could harm him.

Mikey basically has limited invulnerability in DI lol, Kakucho said he was punching a ghost despite Kakucho harming people who can harm Mikey.

Mikey also has AD?! His speed increases drastically per kick...

You're blatantly misjudging Mikey.
The fact that you ignored me explicitly mentioning his dura neg as an exception (as well as the note at the bottom of the profile which explicitly states his dura neg is the only ability he had to train to achieve) proves to me that it is not in fact an insult because you clearly just did not read the profile.
He explicitly did not train. K actively discourages him from training anything not his dura neg or his physique. His technique is complete natural talent
Im crine, did you even read what you said?

K actively discourages him from training anything, not his dura neg or his physique.

That literally means he didn't train his duraneg on your end.
The fear hax also isn't *****. None of the scans on the profile show it stunning anybody for more than a nanosecond.
He literally terrifies Kakucho and stops him from being able to even do anything, same as Hanma. This fear inducement always leads to him getting the first hit.
 
The fear hax also isn't *****. None of the scans on the profile show it stunning anybody for more than a nanosecond.
The scans show it stunned the one eyed guy with the scars which stopped him from attacking like he previously was before it activated and then he was sent flying. However in this fight Manjiro has a katana that would mean he likely cuts his head of or stabs him in the chest like he did in the scans to the other guy I forgot his name
 
Like what is this supposed to make Yu feel when he sees it. Afraid of what? A big jaw? Just because someone has fear hax doesn't mean it will affect everybody. Just because Mikey scares random highschoolers doesn't mean he can scare somebody who's actively suicidal with a little "murderous aura"


Im crine, did you even read what you said?

K actively discourages him from training anything, not his dura neg or his physique.

That literally means he didn't train his duraneg on your end.
ANYTHING. NOT. Anything NOT his dura neg and physique. As in, he only works out and worked to achieve dura neg, but did nothing else.
 
Because no one has decided to remove it, it doesn't make sense for it to be there when the verse is unbanned bro, remove it if you want.
Revisions of verse character is still on going, and making vs thread with outdated profiles doesn't seem right, or the character you using here is up-to-date?
 
Like what is this supposed to make Yu feel when he sees it. Afraid of what? A big jaw? Just because someone has fear hax doesn't mean it will affect everybody. Just because Mikey scares random highschoolers doesn't mean he can scare somebody who's actively suicidal with a little "murderous aura"
Kakucho isn't a random high schooler, he literally brawled with a 7-foot-tall demon, has been shot several times, isn't afraid of guns, and more.

You need to prove it wouldn't effect Yu, because according to equal interpretation, my interpretation has more backing.
  • Mikey perception manipulates people to see a monster.
  • This is classified as supernatural fear hax that triumphs any conventional fear.
  • Yu has no resistence to these hax
ANYTHING. NOT. Anything NOT his dura neg and physique. As in, he only works out and worked to achieve dura neg, but did nothing else.
Okay, this doesn't prove he's more skilled and still ignores my other array of arguments.
 
1. Mikey has access to a supernatural fear manipulation hax that Yu has no way of getting around.
2. Mikey has access to a dura neg ability that incapacitates and paralyses Yu.
3. Mikey cannot be hit by Yu, as, the implication of fear hax, would stun Yu, letting Mikey land the first hit which would obviously paralyse Yu but anyway, he thus, becomes faster than Yu. Even if we assume Mikey's fear hax doesn't work (which you can't prove), he tanked a literal bullet to the brain and was able to function, I don't think a simple punch that bypasses his muscles is going to end him instantly.
4. When Mikey enters dark impulses he gets massively stronger, Yu can't combat this, he literally cannot figure out a way to out speed him, or out ap him.
There's more too!!
Not a single reply.
 
Are you doing it on purpose? Are you that lazy to just take a look at his combat intelligence?
I've looked at it, I'm not denying his combat intelligence, I'm just saying, it's not as superior as claimed.
 
Like what is this supposed to make Yu feel when he sees it. Afraid of what? A big jaw? Just because someone has fear hax doesn't mean it will affect everybody. Just because Mikey scares random highschoolers doesn't mean he can scare somebody who's actively suicidal with a little "murderous aura"

This is my entire point. He was openly attacking Manjiro before it activated according to these panels and then he was stunned, however in this fight it's already activated meaning he would already be effected before he could do an action, he would be stunned and seeing the illusion the same way. Their ages doesn't really change the abilities they have and from the pages the characters Manjiro did this too are above the age of 18 so that's really a narrative point. Yu needs actual resistance to fear feats and feats against katana users for it to make logical sense how he counters it. This isn't really a skill fight it seems to be become supernatural with the dark impulse element and the katana factor adds another layer to the problem. Yu verse is mainly sports and skill and doesn't seem to tap in to resistance to supernatural fear users, which is why I can't logically vote for Yu. I vote Manjiro unless more is presented to counter this, respectfully.
 
Kakucho isn't a random high schooler, he literally brawled with a 7-foot-tall demon, has been shot several times, isn't afraid of guns, and more.

You need to prove it wouldn't effect Yu, because according to equal interpretation, my interpretation has more backing.
  • Mikey perception manipulates people to see a monster.
  • This is classified as supernatural fear hax that triumphs any conventional fear.
  • Yu has no resistence to these hax
Supernatural fear doesn't "trump conventional fear." What makes the fear that Mikey makes people fear any different from the standard fear of death other than the fact that it comes from some weird supernatural impulse?
Okay, this doesn't prove he's more skilled and still ignores my other array of arguments
your other arguments are bad. Nothing Mikey can do will stop the blitz.
 
Fear Manipulation, otherwise known as Fear Inducement is the ability in which to inflict a level of "fear" on the target using supernatural means.

The only thing that makes fear manipulation different from normal fear is that it comes from a supernatural source, but coming from a supernatural source doesn't make it some kind of layered ability. The ability page explicitly mentions that the severity of the fear induced is integral. None of the scans on the profile show anything that Yu would be afraid of as someone who actively tries to kill himself with no hesitation.
 
I've looked at it, I'm not denying his combat intelligence, I'm just saying, it's not as superior as claimed.
Look, the skills you presented for Mikey are;

A genius martial artist who created his own duraneg ability, beat 2 expert fighters whilst on top of a junkyard that gave him terrible footing, and more.

How does a sane person look at this and think he is above Yu?
 
The only thing that makes fear manipulation different from normal fear is that it comes from a supernatural source, but coming from a supernatural source doesn't make it some kind of layered ability. The ability page explicitly mentions that the severity of the fear induced is integral. None of the scans on the profile show anything that Yu would be afraid of as someone who actively tries to kill himself with no hesitation.
Fear manip must causeless, you feel fear just because

Natural is with a cause

Mikey's fear is social influencing imo due to the characters getting scared upon seeing the "monster"
 
Supernatural fear doesn't "trump conventional fear." What makes the fear that Mikey makes people fear any different from the standard fear of death other than the fact that it comes from some weird supernatural impulse?
What in the skibidi toilet?

Mikey literally displays a supernatural monster, you have to prove Yu wouldn't be scared of it, you're claiming it, the positive claim is inferred to you.
your other arguments are bad. Nothing Mikey can do will stop the blitz.
Nice debunk, can't believe people are taking this seriously. You. Need. To. Actually. Argue. For. Your. Point. To. Be. Valid.
 
Mikey literally displays a supernatural monster, you have to prove Yu wouldn't be scared of it, you're claiming it, the positive claim is inferred to you.
Yu sees supernatural monsters all the time, he hallucinates on a regular basis.

Nice debunk, can't believe people are taking this seriously. You. Need. To. Actually. Argue. For. Your. Point. To. Be. Valid.
Is it not your job to prove Mikey can avoid being blitzed? You haven't actually told me how he circumvents it.
 
Yu sees supernatural monsters all the time, he hallucinates on a regular basis.
That doesn't necessitate he would be immune to one that is enveloped to strike fear into you.
Is it not your job to prove Mikey can avoid being blitzed? You haven't actually told me how he circumvents it.
You claimed Yu blitzes him without evidence. According to PSR, you are yet to provide any evidence.
What a way to re-start for TR
It's literally just another vs matchup, don't try to stray it in a bad direction.
 
Mikey is 32 Tons, meanwhile Yu is apparently 0.1, so he's like, 320x stronger in the LS department.
Mikey also foderises the dude who foderised the dude who gets him to 133 megajoules.
Good to know.
Mikey has supernatural willpower, has been shot in the head and still was alive, beaten with a metal pole to the temple, and then performed superhuman feats. Has basically infinite stamina.
Can I see a scan for the headshot one? Because I don't think that's enough to stop your heart or brain pretty much turning to mush (IIRC There have even been cases of people surviving a bullet wound to the head, but I don't think anyone is surviving your brain or heart bursting)
Yes, it affects perception and the mind.
I'm sorry, but checking the scans, that "Fear Manip" seems like one of the least impressive fear manip I've seen. Most of the characters just go "Woah what the hell is this murderous aura", but I don't see how that would even affect Yu, who is suicidal, and pretty much does not give a shit (Nevermind the fact that he's pretty nuts in this key). That really seems like a limited fear manip. Can I see ANY scan of someone seeing Dark Impluse, and just not being able to actually fight when Mikey attacks them? Because so far, it doesn't seem impressive at all, no offense.

Hell, I'd argue even Yu's normal fear shenanigans are much more impressive, since he made someone completely freeze in fear, unable to do anything. And that is before he turned nuts.

Honestly, even then, I doubt it'll stun Yu for any period of time, maybe he'll raise an eyebrow, but that'll be it. Nevermind that Yu has enhanced perception, so even if he was stunned, he could quickly snap out of it before Mikey even attacks.
Mikey overall has the advantage due to his speed amp; he gets significantly faster with every kick in Dark Impulses and the amp is so OP he beat someone who could see 1 second into the future and predict all his kicks.
Can I see the scan of the "beating the dude who can see the future"? Because I recall I saw a scan of something similar from Tokyo Revengers, and it really didn't seem that Impressive (and also could be argued it was due to speed rather than skill). Also, speed shenanigans aren't really that new to Yu, since he fought against Aaron, who started to blitz him, and yet Yu adapted to hell and back, and won.

As for Mikey's Dura neg, that first assumes Mikey would able to even land an attack in the first place (See above for adaptation, and below for Skill), and that he won't have his brain turn to mush immediately.

Anyways, Yu also can blitz very easily via the Monster Stance (See here), and he could also ramp up in speed the more he fights, so he also has an amp.

For skill shenanigans, Yu fodderized Ryu, who is deemed as an amazing genius that is unpredictable in nature and extremely talented. That same Ryu fodderized Siha Lee, the same Siha who could easily memorize attack patterns, timing, habits, etc... basically everything about a fighter, even their heartbeat, to the point that any of his opponents could not do jackshit to him and he dodges everything and showers them with counter attacks. That same Siha Lee is nothing compared to Jean, who gained "full body control", with his sheer madness able to feel everything in his body, and predict his opponent.

And that is still not going over the whole "even a normal, actual boxer has pretty good analytical prediction" stuff.

Currently voting for Yu. I personally am not convinced by the arguments for Mikey currently.

Ps. Make Mikey fight this guy 👉👈
 
Yu FRA. Seriously dude, we've been over this a billion times. Both series ended and nothing is gonna change. Fear hax isn't gonna work when Yu basically makes people hallucinate him as a monster without any supernatural abilities. He is stone cold, unbothered by the fear of death at all. Even if it made him stagger for a moment he has gotten out of worse situations (like the time he basically got hit with every bit of unluck you could imagine on a ring and still squeezed out a one-punch victory).
 
That doesn't necessitate he would be immune to one that is enveloped to strike fear into you.
This doesn't mean anything. A scary image is a scary image, if it's scary it doesn't matter if it's "enveloped to strike fear," what matters is what they actually see, and Yu regularly sees scarier things in his broken mind than a set of dark teeth.

You claimed Yu blitzes him without evidence. According to PSR, you are yet to provide any evidence.
Blud, READ THE PROFILE.
 
Yu FRA. Seriously dude, we've been over this a billion times. Both series ended and nothing is gonna change. Fear hax isn't gonna work when Yu basically makes people hallucinate him as a monster without any supernatural abilities. He is stone cold, unbothered by the fear of death at all. Even if it made him stagger for a moment he has gotten out of worse situations (like the time he basically got hit with every bit of unluck you could imagine on a ring and still squeezed out a one-punch victory).
Oh shit yeah, brother got hit with fking Wonder of U shenanigans, and still managed to pull himself out of that situation. I legit don't see Mikey being able to do anything to him.
 
The only thing that makes fear manipulation different from normal fear is that it comes from a supernatural source, but coming from a supernatural source doesn't make it some kind of layered ability. The ability page explicitly mentions that the severity of the fear induced is integral. None of the scans on the profile show anything that Yu would be afraid of as someone who actively tries to kill himself with no hesitation.
The thing is his ability seems to be layered because fear isn't the only element as there is also perception manipulation and illusion creation. To dismiss all 3 of those because of their ages is not a good point when it's characters even younger with more overpowered abilities. This would be something that definitely effects him as he has no resistance to anything to just say "oh he wouldn't care" that's not logic or provides the scans to show how he counters it.

And all of that is just one part, he still needs to be able to defend against against a bloodlusted katana user simultaneously to dealing with the above portion I mentioned. Just doesn't logically make sense when all he has is boxing ability with no experience against it.
 
Average Yu schizophrenia attack before he's literally about to blow his brains out:
 
The thing is his ability seems to be layered because fear isn't the only element as there is also perception manipulation and illusion creation. To dismiss all 3 of those because of their ages is not a good point when it's characters even younger with more overpowered abilities. This would be something that definitely effects him as he has no resistance to anything to just say "oh he wouldn't care" that's not logic or provides the scans to show how he counters it.

And all of that is just one part, he still needs to be able to defend against against a bloodlusted katana user simultaneously to dealing with the above portion I mentioned. Just doesn't logically make sense when all he has is boxing ability with no experience against it.
The illusions that Mikey would make him see are nothing that Yu doesn't see in his head every time he closes his eyes. Yu doesn't need experience against blades because he instantly masters and trumps the experience of any style he's up against, he'd just develop countermeasures intuitively.
 
Can I see a scan for the headshot one? Because I don't think that's enough to stop your heart or brain pretty much turning to mush (IIRC There have even been cases of people surviving a bullet wound to the head, but I don't think anyone is surviving your brain or heart bursting)
Surviving and talking and moving and laughing is two different things.
I'm sorry, but checking the scans, that "Fear Manip" seems like one of the least impressive fear manip I've seen. Most of the characters just go "Woah what the hell is this murderous aura", but I don't see how that would even affect Yu, who is suicidal, and pretty much does not give a shit (Nevermind the fact that he's pretty nuts in this key). That really seems like a limited fear manip. Can I see ANY scan of someone seeing Dark Impluse, and just not being able to actually fight when Mikey attacks them? Because so far, it doesn't seem impressive at all, no offense.
When he actively uses it in fights, i.e. against Hanma or Kakucho, they're too stunned, and Mikey lands the first hit instantly, within a nanosecond.
Can I see the scan of the "beating the dude who can see the future"? Because I recall I saw a scan of something similar from Tokyo Revengers, and it really didn't seem that interesting (and also could be argued it was due to speed rather than skill)
It was because of speed, Mikey's speed amps up per kick... He went from being unable to hit him to slicing and dicing him within a few kicks.
Also, speed shenanigans aren't really that new to Yu, since he fought against Aaron, who started to blitz him, and yet Yu adapted to hell and back, and won.
You can't adapt to someone who increases their speed every kick, assuming he can adapt is a nlf.
Anyways, Yu also can blitz very easily via the Monster Stance (See here), and he could also ramp up in speed the more he fights, so he also has an amp.
Mikey's amp gets him to speed blitz people he couldn't speed blitz before, and one shot them, it also amps him to the point where no one can even make him flinch other than Takemichi.

Yu FRA. Seriously dude, we've been over this a billion times. Both series ended and nothing is gonna change. Fear hax isn't gonna work when Yu basically makes people hallucinate him as a monster without any supernatural abilities. He is stone cold, unbothered by the fear of death at all. Even if it made him stagger for a moment he has gotten out of worse situations (like the time he basically got hit with every bit of unluck you could imagine on a ring and still squeezed out a one-punch victory).
Did you literally just say "Yu wouldn't react because he can make other people scared". Jesus...
This doesn't mean anything. A scary image is a scary image, if it's scary it doesn't matter if it's "enveloped to strike fear," what matters is what they actually see, and Yu regularly sees scarier things in his broken mind than a set of dark teeth.
A set of dark teeth coming at you and designed to develop fear is different then seeing a scary monster as a hallucination.
Blud, READ THE PROFILE.
I've read it, literally nothing on there beats Mikey.
Oh shit yeah, brother got hit with fking Wonder of U shenanigans, and still managed to pull himself out of that situation. I legit don't see Mikey being able to do anything to him.
What... Mikey's fear-inducing scares people who actively have hallucinations too, and people who have seen literal 7 foot demons beat them to a pulp.
Average Yu schizophrenia attack before he's literally about to blow his brains out:

Is this seriously the hallucination... No way that's the evidence you're bringing up.
 
Is this seriously the hallucination... No way that's the evidence you're bringing up.
...?? And Mikey making some creepy dumbass looking jaws is worse than Yu constantly reliving his childhood trauma of seeing his father as a massive ape monster and himself as a literal demon? Do you think Mikey is making people see Hell itself or some sh*t?
 
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