you stalking me? lmfao
no I didn't
no thats speed dude...not skill
good thing griffith canonically has uber stupid luck
I'm not hating on ya either, but how am I meant to happily count ur vote when it's disengenous, like u literally JUST opened the thread, but it's whateva, i'll count it
its stated he's getting faster
its not luck that helps you slit someones throat in a random encounter in a random verse
u keep saying Rvt, I assume thats the rule violation thread, but like, when I see someone jst open a thread and say fra, I find it hesitant to not take them to the rvt
Which isn't skill....
Proabability manip can do that yes...
I neva said it was skill i'm arguing for ad, what
yh in his series mate
my own argument despite it being quite failed, and a bunch of @Delusionaltx2's posts
his main reasons before retracting his vote were chariots non stated reasoning
they dont get bypassed thats the issue, i aint even see the other matches on hs pf but they prolly wrong anyway
I'm not talking to you
The first two pages of the thread are literally you arguing that they are comparable in skill
Proabability manip dosen't have this rule and if we're really using this an argument I can now bring up how blitz-one shots vary in fiction and now DI is basically just a minor stat amp ontop of his AD, it goes both ways here
my statement applies whether u were or weren't talking to me
Not really, i was talking about layers not the match up
hes still posting and i think his posts are reasonable?
Yh but I wasn't using stat amp as a reason, ur not tracking
u'd have to prove that, u'd also have to prove that in this universe griffiths probabiliy manipulation applies to him not losing
He could have 1 and you would still need to bypass it to logically say he is defeated. He has multiple losses on his profile to characters who don't bypass supernatural fear and was only out voted by the same members who are also in this thread voting against him, almost like a collective effort every thread. Seems disingenuous and counter productive to actually wins the fight, almost feels like rule breaking too, which I've dealt with from this same pack of people
So then I'm correct with my assessment then? Someone needs to create a thread because this is becoming a recurring problem and it's turning every single Mikey thread into the same thing. Basically "Oh Mikey fear hax is nothing let's ignore it and vote against him anyway" and that does nothing to help people actually learn who wins fights, I can understand people disliking the character. But purposely having agendas and grouping together to see him lose everything no matter the topic is just flat out nasty.
what attitude mate, his posts are not even arguing for Griffith, they're just trying to debunk some of mikeys win cons not all of them
Ok, now i think you're trolling and noticed why hate keeps coming to ya.
yeah maybe not, i'll take this to the "rvt" if needed
From what I've read it's the same thing as every other thread the manjiro character is involved in. Griffin voters vote him without acknowledging how he bypasses Fear hax, which is causing side bar arguments.
Because I;
vsbattles.fandom.com
Exactly my point. As stated below
People are basically saying "oh I don't care about Mikey fear hax, Griffin wins anyway because he faced this" which doesn't equate to resistance to fear hax. So I'll assume he doesn't have any canon resistance, which means he will be stunned like everyone else and killed. Any other answer is just illogical
Because I;
1. Can't put Berserk on the TV man there's kids.
2. Because I may as well gather stuff for future profiling while I'm at it, there's obviously some feats to calc and abilities we can add. Not really in the mood to do it all right now I'm busy but one arc shouldn't take to long I think?
ok but youll be waiting a few days, this comes second to the current project.
That, or we can just, like,
So Mikey is incapable of actually landing a mortal blow, if he attempts to kill, he's basically guaranteed to lose, is only real method is incap.
- Extreme Pain Tolerance (Laughed off being repeatedly whipped by the King of Midland)
- Blessed (Protection; Griffith is the Idea of Evil's chosen one and he is blessed by it's protection. The Idea of Evil manipulated Fate, Causality and Probability to give birth to Griffith and ensure he arrived to the Eclipse. Under the Idea of Evil's protection Griffith is unable to receive any mortal wound, such as the poisoned arrow which was shot at him and was fated to miss. He can still lose fights and be damaged, however. This protection even saved him from killing himself)
Or we just point out the fact Griffith survived managed to land a hit on this mf
May as well be like fighting 50,000 Mikeys at that point, and ya know what, hey watch this.Nosferatu Zodd
Nosferatu Zodd is a legendary swordmaster, an Apostle, and a rival of Skull Knight who wanders the land in search of worthy foes. Having first encountered Guts and Griffith after having warded a stronghold against the Band of the Hawk, Zodd has since held the two in high esteem, as they proved...
An aura?
Scaring Guts shitless?
Griffith notably keeps his cool, doesn't flee, and actively engages Zodd, even cutting him despite the thousands of times stat gap.
And because we like bringing up stomping hordes of fodder as skill feats ig,
Zodd soloed 500 armed soldiers (naked btw), and without a single one deflecting or countering him once (given a few minutes later he says it's been 30 years since a human managed to parry a strike from him to Guts, and is even more shocked about being cut).
I severely doubt Griffith is even going to care about the "fear hax", he's seen and withstood worse.
exactly, it's rooted in assumptions
So then Mikey has invalid losses on his profile and was only out voted by recurring wiki members who vote against him every thread? How is this not against the rules?
it is against the rules but no one can do anything cause its hard-impossible to prove bias
Not the bias part that's subjective, I'm moreso focusing on the fear hax part. Fear hax can't be debated if the ability is already on their profile and has multiple uses of it and it resulting in the same things, voters are basically saying the main premise of his dark impulse ability is "useless" against people who don't even have supernatural resistance. That's the rule breaking part to me
