| AP: 6.1 MJ, massively higher in base, even higher in DI LS: 32 Tons, likely higher Skill: Gifted, likely higher Access to Sanzu's katana Starts in DI |
| AP: 8.5 MJ, Far higher with piercing damage LS: 10 Tons Skill: Genius Standard Equipment |
On what basis, Mikey resisted a supernatural curse designed to drive people insane
first of all where is the proof of one hour
Acrobatics (Hypermobility; Easily countered Guts' attack by jumping on his sword<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Griffith#cite_note-BerserkP13-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>)
Mikey beat 550 people or sum without being tagged once. Is stated to be above 20,000 in a fight from himself.
Griffith would just have his arms and legs chopped off at that point.
u scale ben 10 bro I dont wanna hear ittokyo revengers
bro you could be scaling manga way better than TR but you chose this
How is this a wincon when Mikey passively fear hax him
550 Randoms or at least competent fighters?
my friend told me to do it so i did it, I owe him it, dude been helping me out for well long, I've been scaling tier 9 for years anyway, tr a underrated ass verse
Yh but mikey can fear induce whilst in it it's just dependant on the situation
they are delinquents who have several fights under their belts, some of them know martial arts but most just have fighting experience
Ok,, almost equal in that regard because that is not like guys that literally do fighting for their lives but the increase in numbers makes up for that
Mate, Most are completely unskilled delinquents who Mikey absolutely stats-stomp to oblivion. We have random being like 140 kj while Mikey is up to 6 Mj, they are like subsonic while Mikey is hypersonic. This is the furthest thing away from a skill feat.
How is AP a wincon for Griffith when you say Mikey just one-shots his arms and legs and blitzes him via DI amps?
Doesn't this sound like a stomp from your arguments?
First of all stop sending me imgur, i can't open them, again, im in the uk
how is he blitzing him its equal speed at the startHow is AP a wincon for Griffith when you say Mikey just one-shots his arms and legs and blitzes him via DI amps?
how can u restrict something thats apart of the fighter. Anyways, I'm not gonna restrict it cuz its apart of him. Idk how griffith would win easily tho
yh it is
This a massive skill issue not gonna lie, go to USA
It's just Mikey massacring the 550 people of both gangs in the last arc.
I think Mikey is very bad at skill compared to many other verses, but it's not like he doesn't have feats at all. He's very quick at picking up on movements (Accelerated Development), has good precision (bottle feat), and has shown a good amount of techniques under his belt (when he was trying to fight Takemichi's visions and was trying to use a lot of different stuff to hit him). That said, no, Mikey is shown to stats-stomp delinquents even at a young age.
^ I just pointed out that you argued Mikey is basically untouchable. I used my words poorly, soz.
We can restrict anything that increases a character's tier, as long as the character can consciously decide not to use it. If you are not gonna restrict it, I'm afraid this match is invalid as it's likely a stomp via stats amp in Mikey's favour. Unless valid wincons come up for Griffith, but it seems he has no wincon against DI.
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I think u should reevaluate how u quantify skill, when he can outskill anpr users too
Yeah, once he's amped up and AD'd. AD means accelerated development, it's not instant
If ur gonna be disingenuous theres no point debating cuz if u took the time to read mikeys profile u'd realise it don't increase his tier
Takemichi's precog and sw he'd probs win
I just don't believe he did in the first place
I mean, there's still a part of the fight where Mikey is secured to win, I'm not sure what difference does it make.
It has a higher over his normal ap, it counts. It doesn't have to make him jump to the next tier.
u've been disproven several times, if ur gonna stonewall it, theres no point debating it.
what
u said increases a characters tier, that means they're in anotha tier bro
I think the point they were getting across is that Mikey beating groups of people isn't as impressive as Guts doing so because Mikey did so through stats, not that Mikey is unskilled in general.
You can't restrict abilities unless they have their own tier (for example if Mikey was 9B in base, 9A with DI you could restrict DI. But if he doesn't tier gap you can't) or are listed as likely/possibly.
defeating a group of people requires knowing where they finna attack you, how, when, ect, aswell as stamina
I know, das what i'm saying
it depends on ur willpower
I said not THAT impressive, not that it's unimpressive.
Sure but the topic is skill not stamina.
Well you asked how can you restrict an ability so I was clearing it up in case you weren't familiar with the rules.
That's what I said
tracking 10 people is more impressive than 1 martial artist
I disagree i'll explain it if u want
I wasn't, aightWell you asked how can you restrict an ability so I was clearing it up in case you weren't familiar with the rules.
That's what I said
I never disagreed that they are comparable. Nor have I ever argued in that CRT about this. I'm unsure how I'm disporven when we never argued about it.
If a character is untouchable, then they are basically secured to win. You said Mikey, at a certain point, becomes untouchable, it's a stomp, UNLESS there are arguments for Griffith being capable of winning before, but there aren't, Mikey has fear hax and *****. This fight is a stomp for Mikey unless someone somehow enlightens us on how Griffith overcomes all the ***** Mikey has.
Yeah, more than "higher" is "separate". We list Di as a 'higher' over his normal value, which is a separate tier. 'Separate' isn't in the sense of another tier in the Attack potency chart, but 'separately' listed on the profile.
I did, but only about the bottle feat.
nah jit I coulda sworn u commented more, I saw ur pfp somewhere before
Depends on the level of a single martial artist and the 10 people.
There's not much to explain. It's just not that impressive because there's a limited amount of points from which multiple people can attack you.
