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But they don't curve here D:
It only curves to the specific location and then goes fully straight (or maybe based on the controller's wish? dunno)
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It only curves to the specific location and then goes fully straight (or maybe based on the controller's wish? dunno)
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I would assume Flashy was atleast trying to show his superiority given his attitude towards Genos and there are sound fx for hits meaning they clashed. That's beyond impressive considering Flashy right after this in the next chapter dodges casual punches from Saitama twice, one of those times being caught off guard.
We didn't get to see how Genos would do against a Casual Saitama since he just gives up before the first even starts.
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They normally curve very near him along that steam he releases and then go straight from that point
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Well then by that logic MHA is well into 1000 of times FTL given that Aoyama has more light statements than G4 and G5 have pages.
It's more like prediction also Awakened Cockroach was missing his legs so even if he sensed Orochi attacking him, he likely couldn't do shit.
When did that happen ? I recently read MA and I don't remember that happening.
Geryuganshoop isn't fodder. he was just very unlucky to meet Saitama, his attack really doesn't even scale to anyone as even Saitama doesn't really react to the rocks, he just tanks it (we know he is faster but at that moment he didn't display any feats to suggest so) as for Boros, he has no such statements
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Physical light that pushes people around and comes from the magic/biological source of quirks, so i'd say it hits less criterias for LS.
He also had a completely besmitten expression when Orochi stabs him suddenly, so i'd say it's not clear cut interpretation here. Also Orochi in special is an upper tier character, so him at least being comparable to Flashy Flash/the ninjas is not that big of a reach.
Might have been a redraw then.
I know, i was just joking. The Boros statement of him wrapping Saitama in his frictionless energy when he kicked him to the moon it comes from the anime databook iirc. People siggested he could scale to it since he uses the same energy to propel himself but it's dubious.
All in all i'm not saying i agree with high end speed scaling, just that it would not be necessarily completely bunked as an interpretation.
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It's not about being called "light" more. (Not that he doesn't have good ones)
It's not prediction.
He couldn't sense Orochi. Orochi shows his intent yet AC couldn't sense it nor attempt to run before the attack started.
It's neither a SOL blitz or anything like that, it's a clear resistance for Orochi based on AC's statements(IMO).
Also, he dodged Genos's laser and even escaped without his legs.
Here.
From G5, a higher version of G4.
He catches the rock, you know?
Murata also says it was nothing in the eyes of Saitama.
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It is. Both violate the laws of physics, the common arugment is that "it's called light" "the author intends for it to be light"
Genos doesn't use lasers. Those are plasma canons.
Well that just adds more evidence of it not being light because a slash of air would just be a medium for photons to pass through. Only a fluid or solid would get seprated from a airslash.
You can clearly see his fists are closed in the panel before. He didn't catch the rock.
I am not saying Saitama can't or is slower that it. Just at the time he didn't scale to it.
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I didn't say it being called light has no meaning.
It matters, but there is no difference between it being called light 4 or 7 times.
I didn't mean "light beam" when i said that.
Dunno.
He did catch the rock. (Same in the anime as well)
Though you're not wrong about his right fist being closed in that panel.
I'm not claiming that you do, i'm saying you're wrong about him not catching it. (Also wdym at the time? even now, he still does scale by reacting to them in the wiki)
Also like i said, Murata himself states it's nothing from Saitama's perspective.
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Tomorrow might be the proper beginning of the neo-heroes arc lads... this series is about to get a whole lot bigger.
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Waiting for today's chapter.
Where do you all scale
A) The vol 32 extra aliens who came to kill Saitama for killing Boros? The perspective varies but they did claim they needed to keep a distance from earth (seemingly 10,000+ to 100,00km+) to avoid the destructive radius
B) The Divine Beasts from the Ninja Village Arc?
Where do you all scale
A) The vol 32 extra aliens who came to kill Saitama for killing Boros? The perspective varies but they did claim they needed to keep a distance from earth (seemingly 10,000+ to 100,00km+) to avoid the destructive radius
B) The Divine Beasts from the Ninja Village Arc?
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時代が求めたニューヒーロー『一撃男』と言えば?!? 『WEB界のカリスマ』と『最強ジャンプ遺伝子』の超強力タッグが描き出す！ 平熱系最強ヒーロー“サイタマ”の日常ノックアウトコミック!!
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My bad for being slow
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時代が求めたニューヒーロー『一撃男』と言えば?!? 『WEB界のカリスマ』と『最強ジャンプ遺伝子』の超強力タッグが描き出す！ 平熱系最強ヒーロー“サイタマ”の日常ノックアウトコミック!!
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The greatest association in the entire series has arrived... and they want Saitama's head
to front their organization
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1)Imo at least Low5bIn attesa del capitolo di oggi.
Dove vi collocate tutti?
A) Gli alieni extra del volume 32 che sono venuti per uccidere Saitama per aver ucciso Boros? La prospettiva varia, ma hanno affermato di aver bisogno di mantenere una certa distanza dalla Terra (apparentemente da 10.000 a 100.000 km) per evitare il raggio distruttivo.
B) Le Bestie Divine dell'arco narrativo del Villaggio Ninja?
2)at least 4A
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Captain Mizuki cover = 10/10 chapter 
Empty Void who's 6-B+ for matching Flash while casual also one shot them
A calc would be good but if they want to kill someone who defeated a 6-B+, the scaling should start there and go up to whatever Tier they had with those rays, seems to be 5-B
High 6-C ? Rover matched them unless Rover is 4-A
Empty Void who's 6-B+ for matching Flash while casual also one shot them
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1)esattamenteCopertina del Capitano Mizuki = capitolo 10/10
Un calcolo sarebbe una buona idea, ma se vogliono uccidere qualcuno che ha sconfitto un 6-B+, il ridimensionamento dovrebbe iniziare da lì e arrivare fino al livello che avevano con quei raggi, sembra essere 5-B
Alto 6-C? Rover li ha abbinati a meno che Rover non sia 4-A
Vuoto Vuoto che è 6-B+ per aver abbinato Flash mentre era in modalità casuale, li ha anche uccisi con un colpo
2)rover's blast was immediately easily overwhelmed by the beasts' blast in fact there is not even a clash of energy beams rover's one is easily divided and the beasts are one of the reasons why blast does not move away from his place in the other dimensions I think at least 4A is fair for them...
considering that void is surprised even when he sees a divine beast die easily and void manages to fight and withstand a clash with blast even with great damage
At least 4A is downscaling us from Blast and Void for now imo
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Heh, baited
Rover attacked first and got nuked, yeah, Blast had to protect everyone there. Although I don't know if merely keeping such a dutiful hero like Blast on his post is enough for 4-A, I was going to say Blast shielding Flash could indicate the blast was enough to harm him aswell, but 6-B+ sounds too low aswell
I'd say Possibly 4-A then
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Do we not have a calc for this feat yet? Maybe I have to do it...
This comment about Rover scaling to them had me re-read the entire ninja village arc.
I will point out that Rover did not match them as his little blast got splattered by their huge blasts and it's not even clear if he slowed them down at all.
(Also is Rover's mouth beam power related to god? I get the divine beasts having Homeless style energy blasts but I wonder given how similar their beams look here...)
On a similar note... who here has re-read the current canon ninja village arc start to finish?
I will say that I have two big issues with the current canon. One is that Blast just rocks up and ends what could have been a very interesting fight scene between the Tenninto and Flashy + Sonic. The other issue is how easily Empty Void gets punched back to being a good guy. Otherwise I find the arc both funny and a nice read.
Speaking of which, I forgot how close Flashy Flash and Sonic vs the Tenninto was. They legitimately might all be dragons in the final version- Flashy Flash landed multiple hand to hand strikes on Tenninto and they get up without serious injury. Sonic can defend against Flashy kicks and he was getting smacked around by guys like Brawny Muscle (the big guy).
Maybe the Tenninto could give a team of multiple S-class some trouble after all...
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I mean, they either get killed by Flash and Sonic or they'll just realize the truth thanks to them (Like, we had two retcon version where the fight ended without any interrupt)
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I enjoyed the final version of the arc just fine, but I was hoping the Tenninto would be killed by Flash or Sonic since thematically, it was their arc and I liked the gore and choreography of the ending where they just merked them all.
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I saw Blue appear. Perhaps... we'll get another flashback? I wanna see Luna again
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Oh, I legit said that because I wanted to summon some debate, wasn't my intention to get so deep about it
The Tenninto shouldn't scale to Flash's full speed as I pointed out on another thread, but AP wise each member is already evenly matched with Current Gale and Flame who are around the level or maybe straight up above their previous monster form, they're already 6-B
The duo by themselves, at least going by our number-based scaling, is already enough to wipe out 85% of the S Class, the full Tenninto group would be an overkill and would be stopped only by some specific characters (Tatsumaki, Blast, maybe Metal Knight's full arsenal), Metal Bat would be one shot so his pumped up mode wouldn't even be a factor
Insane to think about it considering there's like 15 of these guys
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There was a lot of nice stuff in the arc, particularly the scene with the butterflies at the fireplace is one I really liked but the finale felt rushed and rather inconclusive with the themes it presented. I understand that Blast intervened because the fate of these Ninjas whose lives were unfairly ruined by the Village was to kill each other but I don't think we are given another satisfactory conclusion to their arcs to make up for the loss of the fight.
Still, despite those issues I vastly prefer it to the previous versions which had cool stuff but were completely incoherent.
And yeah the Tenninto pretty much demolishes most of the S Class, though I will say that it wasn't really well conveyed how strong these guys actually are.
Metal Bat cannot be one shotted by anything below Sage Centipede, just seriously injured at best.
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Inside OPM's logic, sure, but can't be considered in a VS match up, a Tier 6 will one shot him and anyone at Tier 7 without regeneration or other hax
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Metal Bat's durability is randomized like rolling a dice.
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It is randomized and his scaling is all over the place, but the ninjas are trained to go for slicing vital points at first sight
If Metal Bat's Durability is at Tier 7, he will not survive a 6-B slice unless his Fighting Spirit kicks in faster than the blade slices his head off
If Metal Bat's Durability is at Tier 7, he will not survive a 6-B slice unless his Fighting Spirit kicks in faster than the blade slices his head off
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Idk what the discussion is about but if we're comparing him to Flashy Flash I think Flash would easily win if he's trying to kill a regular Metal Bat who can be harmed by Demon level threats normally. And we saw from Genos' Training that he can be killed if his Fighting Spirit doesn't amp him quickly, however Metal Bat himself claims the VGU isn't accurate so we need to take it with a grain of salt.
Way I see it is pretty simple, Metal Bat's durability narratively is meant to portray him as easy to harm but hard to put down, so it will vary depending on whoever he's fighting even if the scaling itself doesn't make sense. It's a manga, it's not going to always have perfect consistency. But I'm also confident if he was fighting someone like 100x stronger than him he would just die.
Way I see it is pretty simple, Metal Bat's durability narratively is meant to portray him as easy to harm but hard to put down, so it will vary depending on whoever he's fighting even if the scaling itself doesn't make sense. It's a manga, it's not going to always have perfect consistency. But I'm also confident if he was fighting someone like 100x stronger than him he would just die.
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It's Tenninto Vs S Class
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Aren't they nigh-featless scum in the current version of the manga? They get turned into a joke pretty quickly. Oh wait did they still beat Galewind and Hellfire in the current manga?
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It will depend on the Ninja Arc additions, every member of the Tenninto was showcased to be around Gale and Flame in terms of power and speed, and their current forms are scaling above their previous monster form
Well, I assume it will
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Anyway, I was re-reading to compare some stuff in the manga and WC and I noticed several changes in the order of events
In the webcomic it's like this:
Ninja Arc-> Cruel Dragon (segways into)-> Sweet Mask arc (Wavy and other Neos appear suddenly for a few pages reacting to the end of the Sweet Mask arc) -> HA Name Victims association and Suiko introduction -> Neo Heroes introduction -> Neo Heroes Saga
And now in the manga:
Cruel Dragon (segways into)-> Ninja Arc -> Neo-Heroes introduction-> Sweet Mask arc -> Current events with the HA Name Victims Association and Suiko re-introduction working as a segway into the Neo Heroes saga
Introducing the Neos earlier and showing some of them in action was a really good call, it makes things flow smoother and doesn't overwhelm the reader with chapter after chapter of introductions. I hope we get more stuff like this, the Neos especially need it to make them have more weight in the story, this is a good start.
In the webcomic it's like this:
Ninja Arc-> Cruel Dragon (segways into)-> Sweet Mask arc (Wavy and other Neos appear suddenly for a few pages reacting to the end of the Sweet Mask arc) -> HA Name Victims association and Suiko introduction -> Neo Heroes introduction -> Neo Heroes Saga
And now in the manga:
Cruel Dragon (segways into)-> Ninja Arc -> Neo-Heroes introduction-> Sweet Mask arc -> Current events with the HA Name Victims Association and Suiko re-introduction working as a segway into the Neo Heroes saga
Introducing the Neos earlier and showing some of them in action was a really good call, it makes things flow smoother and doesn't overwhelm the reader with chapter after chapter of introductions. I hope we get more stuff like this, the Neos especially need it to make them have more weight in the story, this is a good start.
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Galewind and Hellfire's scaling is vague but they did get Flashy Flash to use his best move so they're pretty comfortably above a majority of the S-Class. If all of Tennito is on par with them as individuals, with their teamwork they're probably gonna wipe like, PPP, TTM, Pig God, Drive Knight, Zombieman (they'll need to strategize but I'm sure they could plan it out), Atomic Sandbag, Child Emperor (they'd struggle if he's prepared though), Metal Bat (if he's starting in a casual state, if he's already pumped up a fair bit I think he could wipe them, they really just need to get a good hit in, like if one of them cuts his carotid artery, will power ain't keeping him alive long enough to kill all of them), and maybe Watchdog Man but obviously we don't know.
The rest I think solo, Darkshine is very debatable given that there's obviously a genuine argument for Flashy Flash having higher raw AP and durability than him (which I still fully attribute to ONE and Murata not really thinking over before it got finalized), but I can't see them beating Bang or a full effort Metal Knight. Tatsumaki and Blast are obviously out of the question (unless they catch Tatsumaki off-guard which is what ninja's are traditionally supposed to do lol).
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Flashy Flash and Sonic fight them for a good 10-15 pages and they aren't able to knock anyone out besides Hellfire and Gale. In fact, all we know is that they are stronger than Hellfire and Gale and they can keep fighting after serious attacks from Sonic and casual attacks from Flashy
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Flashy is pretty cracked for sure. I find the notion of him being stronger than Darkshine silly but ultimately still kind of just...true, lol. I don't think his overall strength is the same, but in terms of striking and maybe durability, yeah, his scaling is just too upfront and concrete to dispute it concretely.
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