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I mean yeah even if we take it to the 1% as you say the result would still be in the high 5-A level (since the gap is just that massive) isn't the most powerful the old king soul? I mean it even drops the most souls upon consumtion 75,000 vs 60,000 that all the other lord souls drop.
The Old Paledrake's soul belongs to Seathe who likely had the lowest portion of any of the lord souls. Comparing soul quantities to one another (that being the number of souls dropped by an item) is really only useful in fringe cases.
Elden Ring and Nightreign have a large number of magical abilities that are shared between both PCs and enemies. A common issue that happens when making profiles is the repetition of information, such as having to explain what Scarlet Rot does with every single character that can resist it in...
The Old Paledrake's soul belongs to Seathe who likely had the lowest portion of any of the lord souls. Comparing soul quantities to one another (that being the number of souls dropped by an item) is really only useful in fringe cases.
I mean sure but why would we even treat izalith soul as superior to gwyn's? is it chaos? in which case I would have to disagree since we see that chaos is not exactly all to influencial after the eons have passed with only small fringes of it here and there while light is still very much everywhere.
I mean sure but why would we even treat izalith soul as superior to gwyn's? is it chaos? in which case I would have to disagree since we see that chaos is not exactly all to influencial after the eons have passed with only small fringes of it here and there while light is still very much everywhere.
All of the Lord Souls are fairly comparable in their original state.
Gwyn split his soul over a dozen times among multiple groups, while Izalith's full soul was used to create the flame of chaos. Thus, when we find them in game, their souls are at two very different levels of power. The item descriptions even clarifies this, with how Gwyn sacrificed much of his soul (although it is stillf airly powerful) while the witches Soul is extremely powerful in its current state. Thus by the time of DS2, Gwyn's Old Lord Soul is a remnant of an already depleted/smaller lord soul (and this applies doubly to Seath) while the Witch's soul is a remnant of a completed Lord Soul.
The only thing I could maybe see against this is the fact that the Witch claimed her soul along with her children, leading to the possibility that they each shared a fragment of it, and thus the Old Witches souls would just be a remnant of Izalith's fragment.
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This is very interesting. Can’t wait to try it out.
Do you think Rellana's feat of destroying the town of Moorth and creating that large hole in the mountain that leads to Bonny Village with her Twin Moon spell could be calc'd? Seems like an interesting feat, and one of the few outright stated destructive feats in the game.
Updated an old profile I made for Bayle with the new scaling from consort Radahns meteor rain calculations, now time to make a profile for Gladius, guessing he’d be 7-A, likely 4-C, unless his everdark sovereign version has some crazy attacks that would give it a higher scaling
Okay updated Bayles profile again, mostly just added the new scaling's, some references to Placidusax now that they have a profile, and added some more abilities, that of which I added from Chritin's old Bayle profile.
Albeit the scaling for their current form could be different due to the difference in progression for reaching Bayle and Placidusax, but idk.
Do you think Rellana's feat of destroying the town of Moorth and creating that large hole in the mountain that leads to Bonny Village with her Twin Moon spell could be calc'd? Seems like an interesting feat, and one of the few outright stated destructive feats in the game.
Sadly not. It's just kind of the Radahn feat but worse. Best thing I could maybe think to do is speed, since if you can determine the energy output by the impact and the mass of her moon aparitions you could backtrack the KE formula on it. I'd still need map data on the size of the crater though, which I already need to get for Radahn's meteor hole.
Yes, you actually become a cloud of lighting. This was further supported in Nightreign since the Dragonlord thrusting sword now gives I-frames on jumping attacks.
Sadly not. It's just kind of the Radahn feat but worse. Best thing I could maybe think to do is speed, since if you can determine the energy output by the impact and the mass of her moon aparitions you could backtrack the KE formula on it. I'd still need map data on the size of the crater though, which I already need to get for Radahn's meteor hole.
Yes, you actually become a cloud of lighting. This was further supported in Nightreign since the Dragonlord thrusting sword now gives I-frames on jumping attacks.
Sadly not. It's just kind of the Radahn feat but worse. Best thing I could maybe think to do is speed, since if you can determine the energy output by the impact and the mass of her moon aparitions you could backtrack the KE formula on it. I'd still need map data on the size of the crater though, which I already need to get for Radahn's meteor hole.
Given the Japanese dialogue specifies Ranni wants to keep her Order unseen and she literally says she wants to go far away and she's heavily connected to the Moon, is there possibly a way we can interpret this as her actually taking the moon with her? After all, if thr Moon still exists people can still worship it and by proxy her and it can still influence the planet.
Of course, no timeframe and the fact you could probably just argue "she tps" exist as rebuttal but I still wanna know if it's an acceptable interpretation
Okay updated Bayles profile again, mostly just added the new scaling's, some references to Placidusax now that they have a profile, and added some more abilities, that of which I added from Chritin's old Bayle profile.
Sadly not. It's just kind of the Radahn feat but worse. Best thing I could maybe think to do is speed, since if you can determine the energy output by the impact and the mass of her moon aparitions you could backtrack the KE formula on it. I'd still need map data on the size of the crater though, which I already need to get for Radahn's meteor hole.
Given the Japanese dialogue specifies Ranni wants to keep her Order unseen and she literally says she wants to go far away and she's heavily connected to the Moon, is there possibly a way we can interpret this as her actually taking the moon with her? After all, if thr Moon still exists people can still worship it and by proxy her and it can still influence the planet.
Of course, no timeframe and the fact you could probably just argue "she tps" exist as rebuttal but I still wanna know if it's an acceptable interpretation
Somewhat, yes. The moon itself isn't present, but the laws that the Elden Ring governs are. Even when infinitely far away they are constant and persist, just the distance of the ring itself will make it so that people won't fight for it. Having a metaphysical artifact around that can shape reality itself tends to bring conflict over how people want it used.
It's somewhat implied in the description of the Shattered Stone Talisman that Rellana destroyed Moorth Ruins.
"Shattered linchpin stone. Raises potency of kicking and stomping skills.
Linchpin stones are spiritual anchors said to hold the ground in place and quell the fury of earthquakes—
when this one shattered, the surrounding town fell into the broken earth.
One account claimed that the moon itself had come tumbling down."
While it's kind of a tossup on what actually happened, some people believe that the statement about the moon tumbling down was Rellana destroying the town itself with her twin moon attack.
I mean they're called shooting stars so the white streaks we see in the sky are indeed meteors, but this shouldn't matter since both Sellen and Iji confirm Radahn also stopped constellations and as far as I know, meteors can't form constellations.
Sorry I know this post is like a year old, but I also want to add to this that the specific word Sellen and Iji use in japanese, "Nagareru Hoshi" was confirmed by Japanese fans to not be interchangeable when it was first used in the original Elden Ring trailer when the Narrator states "that which commanded the very stars"
It's extremely close to "nagarehoshi" which is "shooting star", but has a different meaning and is more literally "flowing stars" which makes sense that it was translated to constellations. It also ties into the wider themes of the game and how flow and movement relate to fate, which the meteors and comets are not connected to. The game is also pretty explicit in the JP text about which spells refer to meteors or not, and every single one localized as "Stars" either mentions a shooting star or has characters for meteor in its name. Founding Rain of Stars is the only exception because as the basis for Glintstone Sorcery, it was that Astrologer's attempt to mimic "True stars" and not meteors like Lusat's Stars of Ruin (which has the meteor character in its name and references shooting stars).
I'm not sure what the consensus is on this forum as I don't use it much, but I think the game makes a clear delineation between the types of celestial bodies it references, that was somewhat (but not entirely) obscured in english, causing confusion surrounding the scale of Radahn's actions.
I have a lot more I could add on this subject that I've written about both related and unrelated to scaling but I think the case for "Real Stars" is very solid the more you dive into it. They're one of Elden Ring's most nuanced subjects.
Sorry I know this post is like a year old, but I also want to add to this that the specific word Sellen and Iji use in japanese, "Nagareru Hoshi" was confirmed by Japanese fans to not be interchangeable when it was first used in the original Elden Ring trailer when the Narrator states "that which commanded the very stars"
It's extremely close to "nagarehoshi" which is "shooting star", but has a different meaning and is more literally "flowing stars" which makes sense that it was translated to constellations. It also ties into the wider themes of the game and how flow and movement relate to fate, which the meteors and comets are not connected to. The game is also pretty explicit in the JP text about which spells refer to meteors or not, and every single one localized as "Stars" either mentions a shooting star or has characters for meteor in its name. Founding Rain of Stars is the only exception because as the basis for Glintstone Sorcery, it was that Astrologer's attempt to mimic "True stars" and not meteors like Lusat's Stars of Ruin (which has the meteor character in its name and references shooting stars).
I'm not sure what the consensus is on this forum as I don't use it much, but I think the game makes a clear delineation between the types of celestial bodies it references, that was somewhat (but not entirely) obscured in english, causing confusion surrounding the scale of Radahn's actions.
I have a lot more I could add on this subject that I've written about both related and unrelated to scaling but I think the case for "Real Stars" is very solid the more you dive into it. They're one of Elden Ring's most nuanced subjects.
The general consensus is just that stars is generally used interchangeably. It's generally a catch all term for celestial objects, with the ones that command fate being real stars.
Blessed (Is constantly offered sleep by the Dragon Communion Priestess, granting him solace)
Power Bestowal (Was able to give Florissax his power and favor for her efforts in helping him slumber)
There's also the fact that he can tell when he loses Florissax's aid through time, was able to live in stasis for nearly millions of years waiting for his god to return, inorganic physiology for being made of stone (I believe), and maybe some other things I'm forgetting due to his relation to time.
Demigod Kratos, and bar the divine weapons? Maybe, I dunno Kratos’ profile makes my head hurt.
Where does Demons’ Souls scale, I see they have characters at small planet level but the link to the explanation doesn’t actually explain what they scale at.
Demigod Kratos, and bar the divine weapons? Maybe, I dunno Kratos’ profile makes my head hurt.
Where does Demons’ Souls scale, I see they have characters at small planet level but the link to the explanation doesn’t actually explain what they scale at.
Demigod Kratos, and bar the divine weapons? Maybe, I dunno Kratos’ profile makes my head hurt.
Where does Demons’ Souls scale, I see they have characters at small planet level but the link to the explanation doesn’t actually explain what they scale at.
I haven't finished Demon's Souls so I don't exactly know for sure (it's on my to-do list at some point), but to put it simply the Old One at one point consumed half of the entire planet. That's basically where Low 5-B is coming from there.
I haven't finished Demon's Souls so I don't exactly know for sure (it's on my to-do list at some point), but to put it simply the Old One at one point consumed half of the entire planet. That's basically where Low 5-B is coming from there.
Looking at it, the assumption is that the Old One has eaten the Earth and made it into darkness. But the ancients or whatever turned half the world back to normal with their power. So it's one half of turning the world dark, which I don't think is an AP feat.