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so uh, what's the general consensus on my gpe calcs (I fixed them fr this time)
I honestly feel like we should raise Wall level since no human has even punched through a wall before
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I honestly feel like we should raise Wall level since no human has even punched through a wall before
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Okay, thanks for explanation about Tugia's scalings. Also should Caracals and Servals be upgraded to 10b or not? What do you think?
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I am curious: Are we planning to rework the "animalistic" tier for intelligence? I feel like it currently underrepresents the actual intelligence of most animals.
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These aren't really traditional physical blows (they're not getting hit by something solid), and that still doesn't counter the "Hmmm, a 10-B punch breaks through a human that can tank 4 Gs" when the punch should've mathematically added up to 9-C through faster speed and mass, yet and it doesn't have that speed or mass. Defacto powerscaling isn't traditional powerscaling when you have to factor in that IRL doesn't break any law of physics, and the most direct methods of calcing AP are the most reliable ones.
People get severely injured by 9-B falls, if that were the case that Gs = physical blows, we should see a lot more cases where people tank 9-B attacks and 9-C would be a lot higher in threshold by now considering it was revised years ago.
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Evidence?
Depends on their physical build (clarify the build please with sources), anything can be dangerous with enough bites and vital tissue damage.
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Uh... We did have multiple posts about animals demonstrating intelligence feats, I'mma just reply them so both of you have an easier time discussing this.
Animal cognition - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Bird intelligence - Wikipedia
Talking bird - Wikipedia
Yeah there's quite a few sources here and there, it does help reinforce that we should be more ecocentric rather than anthropocentric
Ecocentrism - Wikipedia
Deep ecology - Wikipedia
^referring to both Flashlight's and my posts.
^these too.
Also, H3, I need your opinion on these:
Speaking of which, perhaps these could be considered for addition as references for the Composite Human.
(the list of peeps with multiple degrees specifically)Perpetual student - Wikipedia
We probably should also update the Human Race page to stay up to date with modern sources on stuff like how long Homo Sapiens has actually existed, the size of the human population and the quantity of weapons and whatnot.
The Human Race (The Real World)
The Human Race is a civilization composed of 195 separate nations and countries, all residing on Earth. Anatomically modern humans have been around for about 200,000 years, but civilization was only founded roughly 6,000 years ago. Tier: At least 7-B Civilization Type: Post-Industrial...vsbattles.fandom.com
The Human Race (The Real World)
The Human Race is a civilization composed of 195 separate nations and countries, all residing on Earth. Anatomically modern humans have been around for about 200,000 years, but civilization was only founded roughly 6,000 years ago. Tier: At least 7-B Civilization Type: Post-Industrial...The Homo genus has been around for at least 2+ million years (2.775±0.025 specifically going off of LD 350-1), the earliest pure/definite Homo sapiens specimen was 0.40-0.20 million years ago (if using the Sale cranium) or 315±32 thousand years ago (if using the Jebel Irhoud fossils) (though there were earlier fossils showing a mixture/admixture of features from both (and possible proof of interbreeding between) archaic previous Homo species and early modern Homo sapiens).
List of human evolution fossils - Wikipedia
As for civilisations, debatable on what civilisations consist of but there's probably these we can use:
Early expansions of hominins out of Africa - Wikipedia
Recent African origin of modern humans - Wikipedia
List of first human settlements - Wikipedia
Cradle of civilization - Wikipedia
Should update this to 8+ billion with the current estimates.The Human Race (The Real World)
The Human Race is a civilization composed of 195 separate nations and countries, all residing on Earth. Anatomically modern humans have been around for about 200,000 years, but civilization was only founded roughly 6,000 years ago. Tier: At least 7-B Civilization Type: Post-Industrial...
We could use these (though these articles themselves may also need updating):The Human Race (The Real World)
The Human Race is a civilization composed of 195 separate nations and countries, all residing on Earth. Anatomically modern humans have been around for about 200,000 years, but civilization was only founded roughly 6,000 years ago. Tier: At least 7-B Civilization Type: Post-Industrial...
List of countries by level of military equipment - Wikipedia
Not sure if we could consider adding the people from these lists:The Human Race (The Real World)
The Human Race is a civilization composed of 195 separate nations and countries, all residing on Earth. Anatomically modern humans have been around for about 200,000 years, but civilization was only founded roughly 6,000 years ago. Tier: At least 7-B Civilization Type: Post-Industrial...
The World's Billionaires - Wikipedia
Forbes Real Time Billionaires List - The World's Richest People
Browse today’s rankings of the wealthiest people and families globally. Discover the net worth, age, and other information about the richest people in the world.www.forbes.com
List of wealthiest families - Wikipedia
List of royalty by net worth - Wikipedia
Again, back to the post containing the list of posts with links to Wikipedia pages for sourcing and finding entries to the Real World verse page in them:
The Real World Discussion Thread
By the way, why doesn't Venus Flytrap have poison manipulation since its nectar makes insects and other small critters drunk?vsbattles.com
Also, again, reposting possibly important links for Real World and Composite Human stuff:
Also, on a side note, we may need to look through the Composite Human and Common Feats threads, I had quite a few other useful links in there too for either the Composite Human or real life stuff in my messages that would probably be better to find in one place so I'm linking the threads here to indicate which threads I've linked stuff in regarding said topics:
Post Your Fun Facts
I am bored so creating this thread, just in case I get some new facts *Here's mine The Great Pyramid of Giza encodes the speed of light to seven decimal places. The speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s, and the coordinates of the Great Pyramid of Giza are 29.9792458°N
Real World Page Entry Addition And Arrangement Modification Discussion Thread (ie/tldr Real World Discussion Thread)
****While you could technically use armor as a blunt force weapon. Their attack potency is optional if they don't have any notable attack attributes that stand out (spikes, being an effective blunt force weapon unlike most items in real life, etc) I decided to bold this part since the line...
Expanding the References for Common Feats page
Unless something has changed (which would have happened in this thread) then any of those common feats would be valid still unless said otherwise okay just asked because calc about destroying moon from earth is in comment rather than blog itself
Composite Human edits 2.0 (Matchup, defacto CRT, optional additions, etc)
That's a lotta feats. When Aurora gets back (and MaybewantstoEdit), we should look over the feats in the TV tropes to see if they hold up. As for some of them... "It's an unwritten rule that a power/ability has to be overpowered/supernatural about it. Because of this, there shouldn't be...
Composite Human Vs Tournament
By the way, I would disagree with the 3rd quote on the composite human page from Alvarez with the last bit about the "urge to leave a visual mark that says “I was here”", cause animals do that too for territory, but I digress. To those of you all who contribute to the page: 1: What is the...
My "The Average Human" profile discussion thread
Aight I'm super late and I'm pretty sure this profile isn't happening anyway but still. Would "House keys, a wallet, and a phone" count as an average modern human's standard equipment? What even is an "average" human? How many people own a phone? Would the keys grant them a 9-C weapon since some...
Deadliest and/or most powerful stuff in the Real World?
Just wondering, what would you all consider the deadliest stuff in our Real World universe? I nominate galaxy cluster mergers by pure amount of energy (beyond even gamma ray bursts or black hole collisions/mergers since it's both the black holes in both galaxy clusters colliding into each other...
Posts with relevant Wikipedia links for possible entries to the VSBW Real World verse page:
The Real World Discussion Thread
10-C. Also, is every human 10-B or is everything in reality Outerversal because we are real and above fiction? That argument is covered on the reality fiction transcendence page. Fiction isn't a canonally below structure with people in itself in IRL in a sense. It's just bits of ideas on...
The Real World Discussion Thread
also can we update the Allosaurus page due to this https://journals.library.ualberta.ca/vamp/index.php/VAMP/article/view/29404 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurophaganax#Previously_assigned_allosaurid_specimens did you add it to the Wikipedia article or was it another person? I found the same...
The Real World Discussion Thread
I suppose there's a potential argument to be made about the wasp having a comparable problem solving feat. Yeah, that is what I was going for, I currently do not believe they even have a chance of being that intelligent overall, but it would definitely be possible to get some feats in that...
The Real World Discussion Thread
I suppose there's a potential argument to be made about the wasp having a comparable problem solving feat. Yeah, that is what I was going for, I currently do not believe they even have a chance of being that intelligent overall, but it would definitely be possible to get some feats in that...
The Real World Discussion Thread
Shouldn't composite human scale to the highest level of High 1-A+ thanks to the new power system (R>F) ? 🤔 This has been discussed for the billionth time even if the standards change. Fiction isn't a subworld that exists, otherwise we wouldn't make fiction due to ethical issues and more rogue...
The Real World Discussion Thread
Shouldn't composite human scale to the highest level of High 1-A+ thanks to the new power system (R>F) ? 🤔 This has been discussed for the billionth time even if the standards change. Fiction isn't a subworld that exists, otherwise we wouldn't make fiction due to ethical issues and more rogue...
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(VSBW/FCOC/JB/AB) General Chat Thread For Everyone In This Forum And Across The Wikis!
Any topics on your mind? Stuff you've been doing? Stuff you're interested in? Puesdozombie game, zombie genre, And boats
We could probably consider wildebeest/gnu, buffaloes, bison, etc if they're not already included?
We need to add rheas, wildebeest/gnu, trumpeter swans, Dalmatian pelicans, more dog breeds like the Akita and German Shepherd and Malinois and whatno, snowy/wandering albatrosses, etc (I checked through the verse, they aren't in there)
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THere's a bunch of animal species we know and don't know, and the examples we do know may not represent the average or majority of species.
In regards to anything composite human, it needs to have actual stronger foundations for nonreplicable feats (which the scientific method demands), and there needs to be a compiled list of accepted changes. My time is stacked with college, Mage and the Demon Queen and trying fix much of the current real world verse page. Speaking of changes, do you have any wiki editing experience? If you have not even at least 5 mins to edit, that would help speed stuff up in regards to IRL.
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Do I need CRTs for new pages though? (Also we'd need to add placeholders in the Real World verse page to link to the profile pages for the additions, right?)
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If the change improves readability, grammar and doesn't fundementally change what's communicated, you're allowed to edit stuff in official pages. However, if it's fundemental stuff like changing statistics (Attack Potency, Durability, etc), or any power/ability, you'd need a CRT. (there may be vague lines between what needs a CRT, but if you feel like you don't know if something needs a CRT, then don't be afraid to ask for changes in the content revision or questions and answers section of this forum)
Placeholders from what I remember from the context of what you said are optional, but go ahead. By the way, keep an eye on your time management. This wiki is fundementally still addictive social media.
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List of largest birds - Wikipedia
Argentavis - Wikipedia
Pelagornis - Wikipedia
Aepyornis - Wikipedia
Probably worth adding these to the Cenozoic Era section.
Real World: GPE of a human
joke-battles.fandom.com
Random Composite Human crap
I'd like to discuss this calc I made https://joke-battles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TugiaTheNarrator/Real_World:_GPE_of_a_human I definitely don't think the second part should count as they can only tank the GPE for a few secs but the first part makes some sense
Hey Tugia, here to talk as I said.
Definitely interested in conversing about this, especially since we have peeps surviving insane g-force both sustained repeatedly (John Stapp) and experienced instantly (as you mentioned in the 2nd part, but you haven't mentioned other outliers like Kenny Brack and Karl Wendlinger).
g-force - Wikipedia
John Stapp - Wikipedia
Kenny Bräck - Wikipedia
Time Manip for humanity
Researchers have discovered how to rewind time in massive scientific breakthrough - Dexerto
Researchers in Austria have discovered how to effectively rewind time, a breakthrough that could forever change quantum computing.www.dexerto.com
We need to add these to composite human too.
Physicists Are Making Solid Light
A team of researchers from Princeton University has started doing some very strange things with light. Instead of letting it zip by at incredibly highgizmodo.com
We need to add this too.
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^And these too for reference.
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Just quickly using this current message to bump this thread since the replied message has links to the other threads I just replied to earlier.
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The Real World
Real Life/The Real World/Reality. It is where we all live. Real Life is the conjectured state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined. In a wider definition, reality includes everything that is and has been, whether it is observable or...
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Composite Human (Real World)
The Composite Human is the hypothetical merging of every single human being who has ever existed. A concept that is often discussed within Versus Forums,[6] and sometimes fields of science and research. The Composite Human is a combination of all our strengths, skills and abilities at our peak...
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We'll have to keep watching these pages for sure.
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List of martial arts - Wikipedia
Hybrid martial arts - Wikipedia
We could check which ones aren't already listed for the Composite Human as well.
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Is there a way to add images in bulk...? (Welp I need to upload images and wait a bit before being able to add them to the galleries, that's gonna be very time-consuming.)(VSBW/FCOC/JB/AB) General Chat Thread For Everyone In This Forum And Across The Wikis!
Any topics on your mind? Stuff you've been doing? Stuff you're interested in? Puesdozombie game, zombie genre, And boats
We could probably consider wildebeest/gnu, buffaloes, bison, etc if they're not already included?
We need to add rheas, wildebeest/gnu, trumpeter swans, Dalmatian pelicans, more dog breeds like the Akita and German Shepherd and Malinois and whatno, snowy/wandering albatrosses, etc (I checked through the verse, they aren't in there)
Please, help upload the Wikipedia images into VSBW.
Rhea (bird) - Wikipedia
Wildebeest - Wikipedia
Trumpeter swan - Wikipedia
Dalmatian pelican - Wikipedia
Snowy albatross - Wikipedia
List of individual dogs - Wikipedia
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Also, unsure if we could add the rosary pea, gympie-gympie, strychnine, castor bean, nightshade, hemlock, etc since they can also kill or very severely negatively affect other organisms through physical and chemical means (stinging thorns/spines, poison, etc)?
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
Abrus precatorius - Wikipedia
Dendrocnide moroides - Wikipedia
Strychnos nux-vomica - Wikipedia
Ricinus - Wikipedia
Atropa bella-donna - Wikipedia
Conium maculatum - Wikipedia
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We could add these stuff to both the Human Race page and the Composite Human page (and add stuff from the Human Race page into the Composite Human page if possible) (not sure if we can rename the Human Race page and its link on the Real World verse page to Human Species...).
Also unsure if we could add Pando or other clonal organisms to Civilisations in the Real World verse page, need to check in with you all.
AND THE HUMAN RACE PAGE IS PROTECTED, CAN ANYONE MAKE IT LESS PROTECTED SO REGULAR PEEPS LIKE US CAN EDIT?!
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List of largest birds - Wikipedia
(heaviest flying bird in the world)Argentavis - Wikipedia
(bird with longest wingspan in the world)Pelagornis - Wikipedia
(largest overall bird in the world)Aepyornis - Wikipedia
Probably worth adding these to the Cenozoic Era section.
We need to add these to composite human too.
List of martial arts - Wikipedia
Hybrid martial arts - Wikipedia
We could check which ones aren't already listed for the Composite Human as well.
Is there a way to add images in bulk...? (Welp I need to upload images and wait a bit before being able to add them to the galleries, that's gonna be very time-consuming.)
Please, help upload the Wikipedia images into VSBW.
Rhea (bird) - Wikipedia
Wildebeest - Wikipedia
Trumpeter swan - Wikipedia
Dalmatian pelican - Wikipedia
Snowy albatross - Wikipedia
List of individual dogs - Wikipedia
^Just quickly compressing these into one message to refer to so it's easier for us to see what needs to be done, I also really need help from anyone who can edit in source, I'm more used to editing in visual, source is extremely bulky in text for both the Real World verse page and Composite Human page in source and images still need to be uploaded either way, H3 is very busy with college and work and I'll also be unavailable today so requesting assistance from others who are free.
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I've seen pretty much 90%+ of your replies in this reply of yours by now, in reference to anything for composite human and the human race, the ability needs to be nonmundane [a subjective yet needed unwritten rule for any ability in general]. The human race should only include what the overall species can do which includes what most/any nation or the great powers right now can do. Composite human should only include the high-end capabilities of any human. Your suggestions are generally ok to apply in regards to composite human and the human race.
The Real Life verse page is made as a reference point and because a lot of profiles there generally don't give out the same controversial vague lines as a profile for Mike Tyson or this angry mustache man. Clonal organisms and Pando are fine, but only if most people would generally accept they are civilizations despite vague lines on what is a civilization. People would accept Pando in the other or plants category in the real world page. I'm not sure if the gigachad Argentine Supercolony would count considering it doesn't fit traditional definitions of civilization.
The human race is a political yet a frequent civilization that is overpowered frequently within fiction, that's why it's still here. But that's also a major reason why it's locked for edits as the wiki itself stated it doesn't want to involve political or real world figures. You don't want Mike Tyson as a profile reference point if that also includes Logan Paul or Donald Trump, that's how careful staff are. You might as well prevent any politically controversial vandalism for the human race's profile.
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True, but I was thinking more of updating statistics on weapons and population and stuff with regards to the human species/race, but yeah we can leave out the notable people (famous and wealthy and powerful people) parts then.
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Added the animals and plants (and bacteria and the blister beetle Meloidae and amoeba and other protists and whatnot) to the Real World verse page (honestly wondering if we might end up indexing, categorising and listing every single organism in the Universe in the Real World verse page or if we will just stick to those that are record-setting or notable for unique reasons), may need help with clonal organisms.
Will need help adding the martial arts to the Composite Human (those that aren't already included that is).
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It's generally better to start with a sandbox first on any of the wikis, Maybewantstoedit and I were working on one, I'll pull that up to help you polish any information that will be presented before posting it.
Edit: Here's the link
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I added the placeholder images so far, haven't made pages for them yet. (I meant to say I added the images of all of them into the Real World Verse page, but not made actual articles for them.)
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Haha funny match if anyone is interested: Pusedozombies fight yet another TANK!!! (Uncommon+Common Infected vs White Rhinoceros)
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Kinda off topic, but that thing probably should be scaled by real world standards
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Which tier of durability is required to survive/resist those implosions?
1. That one 2. And other that happens at 1000-3000 meters deep into the ocean
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We should add this thing
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I think we should wait until he completes this thing. Also it's called Nosey iirc
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Also I would definitely put it against Robosaurus
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What we do know is it has Superhuman speed (32 mph), Large Size Type 0 (10 ft or 3.048 m tall), and AT LEAST 9-C durability (due to being bulletproof)
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I believe it could be scaled to 9-B, considering how much metal it contains
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also someone is building a 3rd animatronic
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We're that much closer to mass-producing humanoid robots that may actually be viable then I guess. (Would want to see exactly how powerful a fully functioning humanoid robot could be at most compared to the strongest humans... I suspect they would be capable of surpassing human physical and mental limits/capabilities (having access to all the knowledge we have, and being able to withstand and exert more physical energy than humans) but they would still have no ability to withstand our other creations, weapons in particular, unless specifically being built to resist them and even then there's only so much resistance that can be done/resistance still has limits, no pure immunity to our most destructive weapons, so welp they'd basically be just about better, but not by much, than humanity.)
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That being said, that's if they're working alone... if they work together and are capable of evolving and improving themselves without limits they would also surpass us in the ability to create and improve stuff...
I wonder if there's a way to pit an "ideal realistically feasible and viable robotic species" and the human species against each other with the same amount and types of resources and population and see which would end up being superior both on the individual and collective scale.
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On individual level it's obviously robots, but on a collective scale it's still most likely humans. It's just way too hard to make the same amount of robots, without draining Earth's resources of iron, oil and etc, so humanity most likely still will be way more populated than any sentient robot species
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I should have added the extra condition of the robot species and human species both having the same population when pitted against each other but yeah even then robots, while being able to create and improve themselves faster than us, would eventually be deprived of resources that are essential to their functioning, while we could repopulate ourselves with less strain on resources, but it takes longer for us to actually replace ourselves.
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Wait I already DID add the same population condition oof.
But I'm unsure as to which side would run out of resources first, since we'd also have to factor in attempts of both sides to sabotage and deny/deprive each other of resources... and then there's the matter of whether said resources can be replenished and how fast either side can make weapons and whatnot as well.
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Jesus ******* Christ.
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