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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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That take is literally just a delusional copium idea to try and "explain" a feat that some people can't accept. These people have absolutely never heard the term Occam's Razor.
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Blast absolutely demolishes Boros lol. No-extreme low-diff.And both of them mislead us into believing they are the threat Shibabawa foresaw. And Part of me believes that Blast was the person the alien aldy mentioned who could give Boros a good fight and wasn’t talking about Saitama (for obvious reason, Saitama is just too strong for him).
As long as they don’t give Blast an actual feat that puts him beyond planetary, I’ll continue believing it. I still remember the chapter where the Beast King and the others from Blast team was shocked by Monster Garou Feat.
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At best, maybe Boros is physically stronger than Blast, only because Blast's raw strength feats are currently very lacking. But in time that idea will more than likely fade away.
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How can someone love boros this much? Does the thought of him loosing to blast scare you that much?
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It's not about fanboying. He never really had a feat that explicitly scales him to planetary or beyond. The person who could possibly put him at that level is the version of Cosmic Garou who performed Mini Black Hole and GRB, which were clearly smaller compared to that GRB caused by a dying star. And you can't tell me this is just a coincidence. And there's literally someone who looks like Boros in Blast Team and may have connections or know Boros
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-Blast has been continuously fighting God for 20 years
-God is not on Earth
-Blast's HQ is not on Earth.
-Boros got a prophecy 20 years ago about a guy on Earth.
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Fighting God continuously in context, means preventing God from causing trouble with cubes for over 20 years. The first time he had direct contact with God was about 2 (or 3) years ago, and he couldn't even go to his dimension. And who cares if his HQ isn't on Earth? You're literally not making sense. Can you think of anyone other than Blast who possessed great power back then?
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Okay? nobody said Boros was stronger than Garou. This alone shows you haven't read or understand anything.
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Blast possesed so much big power back then he let EC escape.
Anyway, prophecies do not have to talk about the present. Just like, within the same series, Shibabawa's.
And even if the prophecy was right, it could just happen like with Saitama lmao
Anyway, prophecies do not have to talk about the present. Just like, within the same series, Shibabawa's.
And even if the prophecy was right, it could just happen like with Saitama lmao
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Yeah... we were discussing Blast's scaling to that version of Garou. Did you... did you read the post?
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And he conceded to him scaling. Unless saying "But that Garou is only High 6-A" has some hidden words implying that Blast does not scale.
So, Blast~Garou~Consecutive Normal Punches>(Pulverizing)>Boros
So, Blast~Garou~Consecutive Normal Punches>(Pulverizing)>Boros
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We get a possible explanation for that in the current chapter, on top of the fact that we just don't really know what happened back then.
It wasn't stated or even implied that he was stronger than before (if that's what you mean) in fact, it's quite the opposite. He's just been strong from the beginning, with the only difference being his Experience.
Or the prophecy is simply refering to Blast?
Did you read the prophecy properly? "On par"
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And who else is High 6-A? Boros. There were literally so many similarities between Pre-SS Cosmic Garou and Boros that dismissing it literally makes it seem like you're in denial, especially considering both were falsely portrayed as the ones the prophecy Shibababwa foresaw.
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And Blast is not on par with Boros based on like, everything. Casual Saitama was still vastly stronger than Boros and goring him with every punch. Base Cosmic Fear Garou was on casual Saitama's level (a Saitama who is likely MUCH stronger than the one Boros fought) and easily rivaled him with his initial Saitama Mode. Blast kept up with Cosmic Fear Garou and was knocking him around a bit while still holding back, not getting touched by a single attack. In addition to that, he was strong enough to temporarily hold back the combined force of 2 unrestrained, full power Serious Punch's from basically 2 Saitama's, each of which are vastly stronger than the one who fought Boros, the same Saitama who easily negated Boros' absolute max power trump card suicide attack with a suppressed Serious Punch.
There is absolutely 0 argument that Boros is anywhere near the level of Blast, who could also use portals to counter any of Boros' blasts which is his main ability. Blast wins against Boros with extremely low-diff and based on interpretation and potential future feats and statements might even be superior to Saitama at the time.
Literally the only way Boros makes a comeback in this new OPM meta is if we get some random, out-of-nowhere statement that Boros is still an absolute beast by god-tier standards and not someone to be trifled with even for Blast and co.. Or something along those lines. But that's a dream for the time being.
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The difference is that Saitama fought Boros with the intention to kill him, without worrying about killing him, whereas he fought Garou with the intention of not killing him.
And ONE himself thinks Garou would have an advantage in close combat against Boros, so saying he can dodge Saitama better than Boros does doesn't mean much. That's literally his forte.
And this 'Blast holding back' is just mass headcanon. Garou literally ate a barrage of gravity knuckles with ease and treats him like a background character.
And don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying he could win against Cosmic Garou. I'm just saying he was potentially as strong as Initial Cosmic Garou based on those portrayals and statements from Murata and ONE.
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His gate (not him) was strong enough to temporarily hold their energy (of course, with the help of his power his power too), but I don't get where this exactly scales him, one thing for sure, obviously not Multi Solar System or wherever you all scale the energy.
Boros is literally still breathing and alive after taking a direct blast of Serious Punch from Saitama, the same blast that traveled across the globe, casually vaporized the spaceship behind him, and moved all the clouds in its path, despite already using all of his energy. I don't know about you, but I find this more impressive than indirect feats like restraining the energy that Blast did.
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Yes, while talking about Monster Garou, not the Cosmic one
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Indeed, but the portrayals say otherwise, which would actually explain the scaling. Boros, according to the prophecy Boros = Blast, and Blast could hold his own against Cosmic Garou. The scaling is literally a full circle.
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Blast violates Boros. not even a debate or so.
Garuo destroyed Blast's gates himself after multiple punches, which was capable of holding SP^2. Blast scales to him. Gamma ray burst also has narrator statements for it. just saying "what if it's just high 6-a because it's smaller than normal" doesn't make sense. literally implying it's weaker than psykorochi who's at the top of high 6-a lvl.
Garuo destroyed Blast's gates himself after multiple punches, which was capable of holding SP^2. Blast scales to him. Gamma ray burst also has narrator statements for it. just saying "what if it's just high 6-a because it's smaller than normal" doesn't make sense. literally implying it's weaker than psykorochi who's at the top of high 6-a lvl.
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Well, the theory should be confirmed first of all
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Well, ask yourself: what could those mean? Just a coincidence? the fact that both were falsely portrayed as the threats from the prophecy that Shibabawa foresaw? The fact that GRB is just surface/life wipe level, just like CRSC? All of these are just mere coincidence? I don't know about you but this seems a clear sign of comparison to me .
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Yeah. Maybe Blast from 20 years ago (who just started fighting against God) would be a good opponent against Boros.
you're the one who's giving it a meaning like that. the point there is to show Garou' rise to the power. Saitama "Damaged" is cover, reference to what boros believes, not in the volumes, has no credibility, or nothing to support it. Maybe emotional damage after realizing Boros can't do anything against him.
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His talk with Flashy Flash about Void literally implied that his strength never grew at all. He’s definitely more skilled, but stronger was something not even implied, let alone stated
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You just said it yourself. He scales to garou who performed the grb . Either H5A or or H4C. Like for the first time ever saitama thought an attack as was too dangerous that if it even grazes the earth it might be then end. So I don't know where you arrived at just H6A. Also the dude just matched a guy who matched saitama consecutive punches prior before. You know same punches that turned boros into paste.
And the 20 yrs statement has no correlation. And let's say it did. So boros scales to blast 20yrs ago? How does that concern the blast of now?
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Blast "Emtpy void is healed and got much stronger" and "I haven't been playing around either" and you say he's just saying he got more skilled?
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Vaguely, H5A* and H6A come from the fact that GRB itself couldn’t destroy a planet. They are just surface level
Indeed, except Saitama is punching Boros ass with the intention to kill and harm him, unlike with Garou, where Saitama promised the kid he would not hurt him.
Tell me who else besides Blast possesses notable power, back then? And I won't repeat what I said about Blast power now and then. Just reread.
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Precisely. He already has the power to fight Void, even with the power of God from 15 years ago, but not enough skill to catch him and prevent him from escaping.
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This argument is irrelevant until evidence is presented that Saitama was in fact "holding back to not kill him". The only time Saitama has ever directly said this was with Overgrown Rover, and we can assume that he does this with normal humans for obvious reasons. But with Garou there's not really a suggestion that he was holding back that much, not to mention he was still using named attacks like Consecutive Normal Punch's. It's speculative until proven otherwise.
Yeah, that Monster Garou, or rather Awakened Garou in the webcomic, is a rival to Boros. Manga scaling is different and suggests that Garou even prior to his cosmic powers might have already rivaled and/or surpassed Boros. With Cosmic Fear Garou being in a whole other league from Monster Garou. CF Garou isn't just reacting to Saitama with skill either, he's literally just on par with his speed. Monster Garou was already able to counter casual Saitama with skill gap.
Blast is pretty explicitly not focused on beating Garou, much less killing him. His goal from the start was to restrain him and get him off Earth, out of the way so that he can't keep hurting the planet. Now pair that with the immutable fact that Blast was not using his full arsenal, and it's pretty undeniable that he was not using everything he had. Garou treating him like a background character means nothing when he couldn't land a hit on him and just makes Garou look like a clown.
There is absolutely no chance he is on par with initial CF Garou. Boros is at best Gargoyle Garou tier and that's based on feats, statements, scaling, and even narrative implications that YOU are relying on. CF Garou, based on those same exact things, would literally humiliate Boros with little to no effort.
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I never said it does? I said he did that as a feat, a feat that so utterly and massively outclasses anything in Boros' league, that it makes it pretty obvious they aren't supposed to be in the same category of power. And he could easily redirect CSRC based on this very same feat. CSRC by comparison is like a dynamite stick vs. a nuke.
You mean the dampened shockwave at a distance that literally bisected him and left him on the brink of death? Yeah great feat. Stop this cope for the love of god...
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"We were equally skilled. but he had advantage because he got God's power"
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Meteoric Burst Boros' first punch would probably barely make Garou move, assuming he'd choose to tank it to prove how fodder Boros is. Then Garou proceeds to mutilate him with a combo of punches Boros can't perceive or counter even if he could react to them, and finish him off with a blast that makes CSRC look like a candle flame.
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Meh he's still a high-tier but has been dethroned for so long it's wild that people still cope. I was one of the Boros defenders for a long time but this is just obscene. He simply is not in the same league as current top-tiers in any way. It's explicitly been made clear what the levels are here. You have the Blast-tiers or more fittingly God-tiers and above (Blast and co, Saitama, CF Garou, Void, and obviously God). Then you have the high-tiers (Orochi, Tatsumaki, Psykorochi, Monster Garou, Boros, etc.), and so on. Like it's not really THAT hard to grasp.
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He literally promised the kid not to harm Garou. That alone proves he was holding back.
Except Murata is referring to the manga arc and not the webcomic. He’s contemplating how he would portray Garou and Blast as equally strong in the manga because ONE said they are both equally strong. Then we have those portrayals, unless you genuinely believe it's just a coincidence (LOL).
It's his forte. Close combat.
Bunch of headcanon. That same clown literally ate a barrage of his gravity knuckles with ease and treated him like a background character not worth paying attention to. And somehow, you think Blast looks good in that scene just because Garou couldn’t touch him due to his portal creation? Lmfao. That’s like saying Finral > Any enemies he have faced, just because he’s doing his job of not getting with Spatial Magic. Stop.
There is absolutely chance. You just refused to acknowledge and accept it. Aka Copium.
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