Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[EldemadeDityjon]

Even if the h2h difference was that major, in what world is that gonna offset swordsman Yuta

Find it funny Yuta sword was useless most of the time except sneak attacks (not considering his Domain swords)
Acting like Yuji can't use cleave to break that thing. Not to mention current Yuji has his own Gauntlet strong enough to tank dismantle from Sukuna (one Yuta fought)

Not to mention BM increasing durability.

and his overpowered jumping partner Rika? 5 minute mode makes this worse because now he has a huge number of good techniques at his disposal

He only successful about this with RCT less characters like Ryu.
Current Yuji is taking hits from 4 arms Sukuna who is more skilled than Rika and Yuta. Don't wanna hear this argument about Jump Kaisen shit here.
Yuta ain't doing much against Yuji with his jump kaisen Backup with Rika.

Also, in WHAT world is Yuji gonna give Yuta any trouble in a domain battle? He just unlocked his, whereas Yuta has had his for a while and even refined it with Gojo's barrier knowledge

Yuji trained with Kusakabe who is as much as skilled as Gojo in barrier technique. I don't see how training with Gojo automatically makes domain barriers more skilled.
Also skill has nothing to do with when DE is unlocked. Yuji also has Muscle memory from Sukuna. His skills are also etched into him.

I don't see why Yuta was being downplayed there. He has extremely secure close-quarters combat ability with a partner Shikigami comparable to him that is always there, a huge amount of techniques at his disposal for five minutes, and a domain refined with the knowledge of one of the best barrier users in the verse

Sukuna also had 4 arms currently Yuji is hanging around with him taking hits from him. Don't see how Yuta jumping on Yuji with 2 more hands of Rika with same power gonna do much. Not to mention Sukuna is arguably better CQC than Yuta.

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

Definitely one of the theory of all times

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Initially Blitzed is headcanon. Yuta need to make hand signs and fire that thing. Yuji already knows Yuta having JL and he already knows how it gets activated he will use some counter measures and dodge it.

Oh brother how many times you gonna change your opinions?

I never did.

It wasn't stated Months before Shinjuku. It during that time period. Show me scan for where it was stated Currently Yuta has good CE control.

It had to be months before, that image had Yuta with pre Shibuya Maki, Toge, and Panda, and he was in Africa for at least a month before Shibuya.

He has boundless CE. Boundless is word used to define something to gasp. The fact Yuta ran out of that while few RCT and hits from Ryu and Uro. Already shows his lack of efficiency.

If he wasn’t trying to hide the fact that he had RCT initially, he could have quickly killed Kurorushi and wasted less energy.

He does

He used it once.

That Sukuna literally regained his RCT.

Not his CE, though.

Previous he was able to physically damaged Gota.

His output got lowered after the Hollow Purple.

Match his DE speed with his own DE.
Having less CE ≠ Less Output.
You are trolling at this point brother with this argument.

I honestly don’t know what you’re trying to say here.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It had to be months before, that image had Yuta with pre Shibuya Maki, Toge, and Panda, and he was in Africa for at least a month before Shibuya.

What are you even trying to say with this?

If he wasn’t trying to hide the fact that he had RCT initially, he could have quickly killed Kurorushi and wasted less energy.

Him trying to his RCT has nothing to do with efficiency. Your argument has no connection whatever

He used it once.

So does Yuta what's your point with this. He used it once?

Not his CE, though.

What CE has anything to do with Output?
Do you even know the difference between output and storage?

His output got lowered after the Hollow Purple.

Show me the scan where it was stated his output got lowered by Gota

I honestly don’t know what you’re trying to say here.

Just debunked your headcanon that's all.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Find it funny Yuta sword was useless most of the time except sneak attacks (not considering his Domain swords)
Acting like Yuji can't use cleave to break that thing. Not to mention current Yuji has his own Gauntlet strong enough to tank dismantle from Sukuna (one Yuta fought)

Yuta's sword can clash with Sukuna's slashes. What is Yuji's freshly manifested Shrine gonna do to it?

Not to mention BM increasing durability.

I sincerely doubt it's gonna make him more durable than the Sukuna whose arms could be cut off by Yuta

He only successful about this with RCT less characters like Ryu.
Current Yuji is taking hits from 4 arms Sukuna who is more skilled than Rika and Yuta. Don't wanna hear this argument about Jump Kaisen shit here.
Yuta ain't doing much against Yuji with his jump kaisen Backup with Rika.

You completely ignored the 5 minute mode part

Yuji trained with Kusakabe who is as much as skilled as Gojo in barrier technique. I don't see how training with Gojo automatically makes domain barriers more skilled.
Also skill has nothing to do with when DE is unlocked. Yuji also has Muscle memory from Sukuna. His skills are also etched into him.

1. Kusakabe is NOT as skilled with Gojo at barriers. Gojo can alter his domain's conditions on the fly, a feat that Kusakabe said was unfair, and copied the prison realm's small barrier. In no world is Kusakabe comparable to Gojo in barrier techniques. And it clearly worked for Yuta, who learned how to target a single person with his domain's sure-hit and create a barrier smaller than a basketball

2. Sukuna's barrier knowledge isn't even mentioned as a factor in Yuji's barrier knowledge. Only switch training with Kusakabe. That's nowhere near as good as Yuta getting free barrier knowledge from Gojo

Sukuna also had 4 arms currently Yuji is hanging around with him taking hits from him. Don't see how Yuta jumping on Yuji with 2 more hands of Rika with same power gonna do much. Not to mention Sukuna is arguably better CQC than Yuta.

Holy shit. This doesn't stop Yuji from getting pressed by Cursed Techniques he hasn't actually dealt with in 5 minute mode

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

What are you even trying to say with this?

Him trying to his RCT has nothing to do with efficiency. Your argument has no connection whatever

So does Yuta what's your point with this. He used it once?

What CE has anything to do with Output?
Do you even know the difference between output and storage?

Show me the scan where it was stated his output got lowered by Gota

Just debunked your headcanon that's all.

I legit can’t even debate with you, you’re being purposely ignorant.

 

[LIGHTYW]

That sukuna is weaker tho, its stated that yuji can decrease sukunas ce output everytime he hits sukuna soul, so yuji is fighting a weaker sukuna basically every second

 

[LIGHTYW]

plus, where is MHS+ gojo and sukuna??

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yuta's sword can clash with Sukuna's slashes.

So does Yuji Gauntlet

What is Yuji's freshly manifested Shrine gonna do to it?

You know what it can do by feats alone
Current Yuji increased his efficiency with the technique and one touch is enough to draw the scissors and cut off his targets in recent chapters.

I sincerely doubt it's gonna make him more durable than the Sukuna whose arms could be cut off by Yuta

Sukuna doesn't have BM
We literally see Choso increasing his durability with his own.
Not to mention Yuji Somewhat tanked Sukuna's Domain (Cleave attacks) don't see Yuta's sword cutting deeper than that.

You completely ignored the 5 minute mode part

I never ignored 5 min. What 5 min mode gonna do?
Yuji has knowledge on Cursed speech. I can pretty much see him either blocking his ears with blood or CE reinforcement to defend against Cursed speech. He can still fight with his Curses energy senses fight.

1. Kusakabe is NOT as skilled with Gojo at barriers. Gojo can alter his domain's conditions on the fly, a feat that Kusakabe said was unfair, and copied the prison realm's small barrier. In no world is Kusakabe comparable to Gojo in barrier techniques. And it clearly worked for Yuta, who learned how to target a single person with his domain's sure-hit

Kusakabe can alter his barriers on fly too we literally see that. Difference is he uses SD while Gojo uses DE. Not to mention Kuskabae knowledge on DE was something else it's been displayed with both theory and practical (with SD) in Shinjuku Showdown arc. YUTA didn't know about Shrinking. So Gojo knowledge on that barrier technique was not passed to Yuta when body swapp I guess.

2. Sukuna's barrier knowledge isn't even mentioned as a factor in Yuji's barrier knowledge.

Yuji muscles remember Sukuna skills it doens't matter if he remember barrier technique or not.

Only switch training with Kusakabe. That's nowhere near as good as Yuta getting free barrier knowledge from Gojo

What free barrier knowledge?.

Holy shit. This doesn't stop Yuji from getting pressed by Cursed Techniques he hasn't actually dealt with in 5 minute mode

Yuji has knowledge on Yuta's CT they literally planned things not to mention Yuta can only use one CT at a time for 5 min. Yuji can handle CT swap within 5 min. I don't see much issue unless you tell me some specific CT he can't outrun or handle

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I legit can’t even debate with you, you’re being purposely ignorant.

Ditto

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I legit can’t even debate with you, you’re being purposely ignorant.

Take that statement to yourself. You are the one who consistently ignored Yuji having Domain and having better stamina feats and RCT feats overall.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That sukuna is weaker tho, its stated that yuji can decrease sukunas ce output everytime he hits sukuna soul, so yuji is fighting a weaker sukuna basically every second

264 chapter Sukuna regained his output and regenerated his hands
Also his BF was strong enough to knock angel and Todo together where previous BF Todo tanked it even with off-guard. Same Sukuna had enough SS damage Gota.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Take that statement to yourself. You are the one who consistently ignored Yuji having Domain and having better stamina feats and RCT feats overall.

I never ignored Yuji having a Domain, you tried to say that he can spam it.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

People out here are arguing, even though canonically Yuji has been shown to take hits from True Form Sukuna (with four arms), who had higher output than during the Gota fight and traded blows with him. But people are saying Yuji can't tank hits from Rika and Yuta. They argue that he would just die from a four-armed jumpjutsu Kaisen, despite Yuta and Rika's CQC skills being below Sukuna's and having relative, if not lower, output than Sukuna, whom Yuji is currently fighting.

Of course you people are not wanking Yuta.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I never ignored Yuji having a Domain, you tried to say that he can spam it.

This is your own words.

No proof he can spam DE.

^^^
So were you acting like Yuji would sit tight when his opponents spams their Domain Lmao

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Couldn't Yuji cleave'd Rika when she tries to grab him?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Couldn't Yuji cleave'd Rika when she tries to grab him?

No one specifically denied that as a possibility. The problem is that if he gets grabbed like that, it's also an opening for him to get shanked by Yuta

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

This is your own words.

^^^
So were you acting like Yuji would sit tight when his opponents spams their Domain Lmao

I didn't say he couldn't use his Domain, just that he can't spam it. Yuta likely cannot either. Only Gojo and Sukuna can do that.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Couldn't Yuji cleave'd Rika when she tries to grab him?

He can lol.

 

[LIGHTYW]

264 chapter Sukuna regained his output and regenerated his hands
Also his BF was strong enough to knock angel and Todo together where previous BF Todo tanked it even with off-guard. Same Sukuna had enough SS damage Gota.

yes, but yuji doesnt scale to this sukuna at all, you can clearly see sukuna getting the upperhand easily, thats why yuji pulled his domain, and after domain, again, sukuna gets weaker, as megumi is awake and is likely messing his output, not to mention that this yuji got DE amp and even with that he still have problems with sukuna w only 2 arms


also, sukuna in chap 263 was missing 3 arms ( which decrease output ), just used DEer yet todo didnt really tanked the first BF, he was nearly standing up and he even says that he was nearly going down even with sukuna having all those nerfs, and the todo in the 2nd BF was weaker than previously, as he was literally spamming and using CE and his CT every second

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I didn't say he couldn't use his Domain, just that he can't spam it. Yuta likely cannot either. Only Gojo and Sukuna can do that.

Both Yuta and Yuji can atleast use the Domain one time for a day. I don't know what you understood "spam" means.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

Both Yuta and Yuji can atleast use the Domain one time for a day. I don't know what you understood "spam" means.

How is using a Domain once in a day spamming?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

yes, but yuji doesnt scale to this sukuna at all, you can clearly see sukuna getting the upperhand easily, thats why yuji pulled his domain, and after domain, again, sukuna gets weaker, as megumi is awake and is likely messing his output, not to mention that this yuji got DE amp and even with that he still have problems with sukuna w only 2 arms
also, sukuna in chap 263 was missing 3 arms ( which decrease output ), just used DE so he was even weaker yet todo didnt really tanked the first BF, he was nearly standing up and he even says that he was nearly going down even with sukuna having all those nerfs, and the todo in the 2nd BF was weaker than previously, as he was literally spamming and using CE and his CT every second

Currently Sukuna has higher output than the time he fought Yuta and Kashimo. Yuji Gauntlet got destroyed with normal dismantles. They had enough durability to tank dismantle from Sukuna when he was fighting pre Awakened Yuji.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

How is using a Domain once in a day spamming?

I think you misunderstood my spam word. I was talking about both using the domain

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

It can be argued that Yuji's gauntlets just gave out at last. And it's not like the hits it took around 20 chapters ago were from a Sukuna that was actually paying him any mind

And besides, with all the hits he's taken from Yuji, the attacks he's gotten hit by, and the fact that the current triumph is in the fact that he hasn't recovered, his output is definitely not as high as it was around 20 chapters ago

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

I think you misunderstood my spam word. I was talking about both using the domain

That's not spamming, spamming would be them continuously using Domain after Domain, using it once is not spamming.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That's not spamming, spamming would be them continuously using Domain after Domain, using it once is not spamming.

If you go by dictionary words sure.

 

[Fastestthingalive50]

If you go by dictionary words sure.

What other way is there to go by?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What other way is there to go by?

Just dropping something. Say just a local way of speaking lol

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It can be argued that Yuji's gauntlets just gave out at last. And it's not like the hits it took around 20 chapters ago were from a Sukuna that was actually paying him any mind

And besides, with all the hits he's taken from Yuji, the attacks he's gotten hit by, and the fact that the current triumph is in the fact that he hasn't recovered, his output is definitely not as high as it was around 20 chapters ago

Sure sure. Sukuna was just holding back on that Gauntlet specifically when he used his domain.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Sure sure. Sukuna was just holding back on that Gauntlet specifically when he used his domain.

I said a timeframe of around 20 chapters ago. Are you slow?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sukuna was going easy on the gauntlet for 20 chapters fr

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Why do you always say obtuse things while acting like you're actually proving something?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I'm proving something with scan unlike you who act all mighty with words alone.

Atleast who read JJK knows this Sukuna is still on better condition than the one who fought Gota and this Domain should have better output too. Those Gauntlet having durability to tank the cleave already shows they are not fodders

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sukuna holding back against 20 chapter's ago

Sukuna specifically holding back against Yuji Gauntlet. He reduced the output around the part where dismantle would hit the gauntlet.

My bad I was mistaken. Sukuna cared about those damn Gauntlet this whole time. I should have noticed.

 

[LIGHTYW]

Y

Currently Sukuna has higher output than the time he fought Yuta and Kashimo. Yuji Gauntlet got destroyed with normal dismantles. They had enough durability to tank dismantle from Sukuna when he was fighting pre Awakened Yuji.

Bro, what? Sukuna never destroyed that gauntlet before because he was only aiming cleaves on yuji, not dismantles which are exaclty for innanimated objects

And sukuna having this high output makes no sense, if Sukuna truly got a higher output than the time he fought kashimo on chap 264, how would yuji who was damaging this sukuna or todo who just reacted and blocked a fr BF, even have any problems with the previous sukuna?? If yuji can actually damage this sukuna with such a high output, how was he about to get killed by a weaker sukuna if wasnt for todo appearing??

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yeah Gauntlet didn't had durability to tank the attack which bypassed Yuta and Yuji Reinforcements fr.

Man Sukuna was holding back on that Gauntlet alone despite he had to target Yuji and Yuta at same spot .

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Bro, what? Sukuna never destroyed that gauntlet before because he was only aiming cleaves on yuji, not dismantles which are exaclty for innanimated objects

Does it looks like his domain wasn't targetting his Gauntlet?

If you really think Sukuna reduced his output for Only Gauntlet sure. Despite same attacks bypassed Yuta and Yuji CE reinforcements.

And sukuna having this high output makes no sense, if Sukuna truly got a higher output than the time he fought kashimo on chap 264, how would yuji who was damaging this sukuna or todo who just reacted and blocked a fr BF, even have any problems with the previous sukuna?? If yuji can actually damage this sukuna with such a high output, how was he about to get killed by a weaker sukuna if wasnt for todo appearing??

? Todo is out of commission from Second BF. Each BF amps sts.

I'll take back my word of Sukuna regaining his output if there is any anti feat next chapter. But for now it does looks like his output has returned to higher than the point he fought Kashimo and Yuta

 

[LIGHTYW]

Does it looks like his domain wasn't targetting his Gauntlet?

If you really think Sukuna reduced his output for Only Gauntlet sure. Despite same attacks bypassed Yuta and Yuji CE reinforcements.

? Todo is out of commission from Second BF. Each BF amps sts.

I'll take back my word of Sukuna regaining his output if there is any anti feat next chapter. But for now it does looks like his output has returned to higher than the point he fought Kashimo and Yuta

Sukuna never focused on the gauntlet itself before, on the panel you showed just proves it, you can literally see the gauntlet getting little to no slices at all, unlike now, where sukuna throws literally every slice on the gauntlet ONLY

And again, it makes no sense for sukuna having this higher output, if he does, how could todo react and even block his BF at such output if a stronger todo could barely still standing after taking the same BF but from a supossedly way weaker sukuna on chap 263?
And why was yuji also having problems with the previous sukuna (from chapters 259, 260, 261 etc.. ) if he could somehow go toe to toe with a way higher output sukuna? It doesnt even make sense like