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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

karo_senpaii said:
you just made up an argument that no one made. nowhere did i claim it is ana ddition. I said a city block level lightning amping a planetary+ rasengan is not significant enough to be a factor. It amps it sure, But to an insignificant degree
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Why are you calling it city block lightning though?
 
I'm confused. Are people seriously trying to upgrade pre karma Boruto to moon level because he made a Rasengan invisible?
 
HelloThere1089 said:
I'm confused. Are people seriously trying to upgrade pre karma Boruto to moon level because he made a Rasengan invisible?
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No, people are just saying the big-ass combo Rasengan scales above Naruto's normal big-ass Rasengan because of Change in Chakra Nature and Boruto's additional chakra
 
SlendVeny said:
No, people are just saying the big-ass combo Rasengan scales above Naruto's normal big-ass Rasengan because of Change in Chakra Nature and Boruto's additional chakra
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Why would change in chakra nature automatically mean more AP when we know this one only makes Rasengan invisible? Also, wouldn't the additional chakra be negligible anyways? What's the point in bringing that up?
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
No because they don’t tank the full yield of the explosion. Go read our explosion yield calculations if you want to learn more about how durability relates to tanking explosions
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Kayzz said:
Code was experiencing physical pain though. It's why he was holding his gut when he collapsed in the Juubi dimension. Physical pain can only be gotten from physical damage. That physical damage definitely was sustained by Uzuhiko's power coursing through his body.
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why would that be because of continuous physical damage over time and not because he got hit with a Rasengan in that exact part of his body?

you can still feel physical pain from an injury you suffered recently.

If you get punched in the stomach the pain doesn't just go away the second the persons fist is gone.
Kayzz said:
"Due to unceasing nature of the planet, the effects of Uzuhiko do not fade, resulting in not just physical harm but untold psychological damage."
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yes because the attack damages you and then hits you with vertigo,

notice how the "untold damage" part is only in reference to the mental damage, because only that part of the technique is an underlying factor after the initial attack.
Kayzz said:
I believe Hidari should get partial durability feat for surviving Uzuhiko's sustained near-full power and physical damage.
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why would he scale to something that nearly erased him in one shot?
 
lol imagine scaling people to techniques that delete over 70% of their body. Like yeah dude Edo Hiruzen and Tobirama scale to Juubito, only part of their bodies were deleted by the TSO, the rest of their bodies totally withstood the force. 🤓
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
lol imagine scaling people to techniques that delete over 70% of their body. Like yeah dude Edo Hiruzen and Tobirama scale to Juubito, only part of their bodies were deleted by the TSO, the rest of their bodies totally withstood the force. 🤓
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I thought we already somewhat scaled Tobirama to Jūbito through the Tandem Paper Bomb?
 
Makes you wonder… if Boruto’s standard AP is enough to dog Hidari, why not just create a Cho Odama Rasengan? Uzuhiko is kinda overkill… it’s like bringing a 12 Gage to a Colt Fight 💀
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Makes you wonder… if Boruto’s standard AP is enough to dog Hidari, why not just create a Cho Odama Rasengan? Uzuhiko is kinda overkill… it’s like bringing a 12 Gage to a Colt Fight 💀
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You don't get it. He had to flex on everybody there after 3 years. It's like returning after the summer vacation with a growth spurt and absolutely destroying the entire class at sports.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Makes you wonder… if Boruto’s standard AP is enough to dog Hidari, why not just create a Cho Odama Rasengan? Uzuhiko is kinda overkill… it’s like bringing a 12 Gage to a Colt Fight 💀
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Do you think he has enough chakra to use Cho Odama Rasengan?
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Momoshiki was 200% Otsutsuki and had less chakra than Naruto soooooo
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Ok, but Naruto was basically the reincarnated version of a 1/4 Otsutsuki, and was given half the chakra of a 1/2 Otsutsuki, and had small bits of every Bijuu, and had Kurama, and each of the Bijuu is a chunk of the Kaguya-Juubi, so that's technically more Otsutsuki, so Naruto isn't exactly not using Otsutsuki stuff.
 
Naruto’s chakra also far surpasses (in volume) numerous Otsutsuki and Otsutsuki level characters. So he shouldn’t be used as a metric for everyone having the fuel in the tank to do x y or z. He’s the exception not the rule.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Naruto’s chakra also far surpasses (in volume) numerous Otsutsuki and Otsutsuki level characters. So he shouldn’t be used as a metric for everyone having the fuel in the tank to do x y or z. He’s the exception not the rule.
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He IS a Shinobi God. He's just like that.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Why would change in chakra nature automatically mean more AP when we know this one only makes Rasengan invisible? Also, wouldn't the additional chakra be negligible anyways? What's the point in bringing that up?
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(see the Change in Nature/Shape Increasing Effectiveness part)
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Godernet said:
why would that be because of continuous physical damage over time and not because he got hit with a Rasengan in that exact part of his body?

you can still feel physical pain from an injury you suffered recently.

If you get punched in the stomach the pain doesn't just go away the second the persons fist is gone.
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It is continuous physical damage because Code got back up feeling no internal pain, good as new, the moment Uzuhiko was rescinded.
Godernet said:
yes because the attack damages you and then hits you with vertigo,

notice how the "untold damage" part is only in reference to the mental damage, because only that part of the technique is an underlying factor after the initial attack.
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No.
"The effects of Uzuhiko do not fade."
The plural talks about more than one damage. The physical harm is one-part of that unceasing effects, as well as the psychological.

The previous line was "In addition to the damage that a standard Rasengan causes..."
It's obvious the physical harm is the standard rasengan damage.
Godernet said:
why would he scale to something that nearly erased him in one shot?
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Based on surviving the continuous damage from the power unceasingly coursing his body. The AP doesn't truly leave the body - stated by Boruto, and that power causes semi-permanent damage.
It is most likely Hidari strengthened the chakra on those parts of his body preventing complete annihilation, and that chakra is no-selling the continuous damage.
 
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Kayzz said:
It is continuous physical damage because Code got back up, good as new, the moment Uzuhiko was rescinded.
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or he got up because he wasn't experiencing crippling vertigo anymore that previously left him unable to do anything but hold the area where the damage was initially done.
Kayzz said:
No. The effects of Uzuhiko do not fade. The physical harm is part of that unceasing effects, as well as the psychological.
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that has never been stated.
Kayzz said:
The previous line was "In addition to the damage that a standard Rasengan causes..."
It's obvious the physical harm is the standard rasengan damage.
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yes because Boruto hits you with it like a normal Rasengan and you take physical damage, and then the effect kicks in and you get hit with vertigo.

notice how Code only ever says, why is everything spinning? and not why I am still being damaged?
Kayzz said:
Based on tanking the continuous damage from the power unceasingly coursing his body. The AP doesn't truly leave the body - stated by Boruto
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Boruto never said that.

also hypothetically, if Hidari got obliterated by the initial hit and was "tanking" some form of residual AP from Uzuhiko, then logically the AP Uzuhiko would be doing overtime would be unquantifiably inferior to the regular damage done by Uzuhiko.

So it would be something that is unscalable to the Uzuhiko value at all.
Kayzz said:
It's not only psychological.
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nothing has proved that except via misinterpreting a statement and assuming Code holding his stomach means that he's being continuously damaged and not just that he's in pain.
 
Godernet said:
or he got up because he wasn't experiencing crippling vertigo anymore that previously left him unable to do anything but hold the area where the damage was initially done.

that has never been stated.

yes because Boruto hits you with it like a normal Rasengan and you take physical damage, and then the effect kicks in and you get hit with vertigo.

notice how Code only ever says, why is everything spinning? and not why I am still being damaged?

Boruto never said that.

also hypothetically, if Hidari got obliterated by the initial hit and was "tanking" some form of residual AP from Uzuhiko, then logically the AP Uzuhiko would be doing overtime would be unquantifiably inferior to the regular damage done by Uzuhiko.

So it would be something that is unscalable to the Uzuhiko value at all.

nothing has proved that except via misinterpreting a statement and assuming Code holding his stomach means that he's being continuously damaged and not just that he's in pain.
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The physical damage depends on subjective interpretation at this point, so I can't go further.

Residual AP - I don't think something like that was stated.

The power of Uzuhiko that continuously courses through the body comes from the Planetary Centrifugal Force, making it continuous in the first place. We already have a value for the Planet's CF.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
(see the Change in Nature/Shape Increasing Effectiveness part)
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I feel like I'm going to regret this, but **** it we ball. Hi everybody, I'm KingTempest, and you're watching Disney Channel. As we know, chakra is one of the posterboys of "Universal Energy System" throughout the history of powerscaling alongside Ki in DBZ. But we have standards, and I'm here...
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Unless I'm missing something, change in nature/shape can increase AP. But that doesn't mean it will everytime tho. In case of rasenshuriken, it was stated to increase killing power so it makes sense that it has more AP. The change in vanishing Rasengan is in the form of invisibility. I don't think it was ever stated that it augments power. So I disagree that change in nature/shape always will increase AP. Unless of course I missed a scan or two. In which case my bad.
 
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