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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

I think It’s a translation error. The user is trying to say that someone used his calc in a thread w/o his permission — as far as I am aware, we don’t have any standards regarding this, but I think it should be common courtesy to ask someone’s permission before using their calc.
 
Catzlaflame said:
I think It’s a translation error. The user is trying to say that someone used his calc in a thread w/o his permission — as far as I am aware, we don’t have any standards regarding this, but I think it should be common courtesy to ask someone’s permission before using their calc.
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This topic has been brought up before. While kinda rude, it's not a rule violation to use another's findings for your own CRT iirc.
 
Normally, I do not report people, and I don't want to report someone who is currently banned, but this is repeat behavior and has gotten on my nerves.

WeeklyBattles used blatant misinformation in this RWBY calc, and presented evidence in such a way that lead to a major upgrade in statistics, despite the fact that in-game knowledge and simply reading a couple seconds back shows that it was not valid.

This is the calc in question, and while I'd normally say "maybe he just slipped up" given Weekly's past behavior, I cannot in good faith say this.

You can see the full explanation on why this calc is misleading in this CRT, but the cliff notes version is that in RWBY: Arrowfell, Yang gets an upgrade to an ability which the game states can "melt iron blocks" but the previous conversation clearly lays out what the ability is not this at all, and Weekly very much neglected to not include this important piece of information.

I'll leave this to the admins.
 
CurrySenpai said:
Normally, I do not report people, and I don't want to report someone who is currently banned, but this is repeat behavior and has gotten on my nerves.

WeeklyBattles used blatant misinformation in this RWBY calc, and presented evidence in such a way that lead to a major upgrade in statistics, despite the fact that in-game knowledge and simply reading a couple seconds back shows that it was not valid.

This is the calc in question, and while I'd normally say "maybe he just slipped up" given Weekly's past behavior, I cannot in good faith say this.

You can see the full explanation on why this calc is misleading in this CRT, but the cliff notes version is that in RWBY: Arrowfell, Yang gets an upgrade to an ability which the game states can "melt iron blocks" but the previous conversation clearly lays out what the ability is not this at all, and Weekly very much neglected to not include this important piece of information.

I'll leave this to the admins.
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I talked to Weekly off-site and asked if he has anything to say in his defence. I suggest waiting for a response from him before giving any concluding evaluations.
 
CurrySenpai said:
Original Report
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As an addendum to my Weekly report I am adding this account from RustyOne, which shows that Weekly got the calc approved the original way as melting (what the text implies at least), but then proceeded to stealth edit it after Rusty's analysis and change it to vaporization, which shoots the calcs value much higher than what it should be.

Rusty did not participate in the following CRT and Weekly just passed it as if nothing had happened or without informing anyone.
 
As I said I’ll do this shit before, here’s what Weekly says:
CurrySenpai said:
WeeklyBattles used blatant misinformation in this RWBY calc, and presented evidence in such a way that lead to a major upgrade in statistics, despite the fact that in-game knowledge and simply reading a couple seconds back shows that it was not valid.
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okay for starters no, I did not make this calc with any intention of it being used as an upgrade. I even specifically wrote at the bottom of the blog that it is a bit feat that doesnt affect any scalinghttps://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1145864656393605241/1266101654219128922/image.png?ex=66a3ec8d&is=66a29b0d&hm=185f707c8a18e8be6826652da34ef237458dc3c49f1c40f086dd01c68b1ac501&
this calc was made when RWBY was still City level, it didnt affect any of the scaling at the time

youre really going to accuse me of falsifying a calc to be used in a downgrade that happened over a year after the calc was made, and that happened a year after I was banned? seriously?
CurrySenpai said:
You can see the full explanation on why this calc is misleading in this CRT, but the cliff notes version is that in RWBY: Arrowfell, Yang gets an upgrade to an ability which the game states can "melt iron blocks" but the previous conversation clearly lays out what the ability is not this at all, and Weekly very much neglected to not include this important piece of information.
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https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1145864656393605241/1266103274465919127/Yangmelt1.webp?ex=66a3ee0f&is=66a29c8f&hm=1a73a9238e992f31add6b3d9072c6fd7ba6fc6040974f1b53c81cf89a93237b2&
The game says she melts them so that is what I calced.

I even posted a clip of the gameplay at the beginning of the calc to show the feat happening and Rusty backed me up on it after watching the clip commenting the same point of view that I had, that the depiction of the blocks shattering is a gameplay limitation.
CurrySenpai said:
As an addendum to my Weekly report I am adding this account from RustyOne, which shows that Weekly got the calc approved the original way as melting (what the text implies at least), but then proceeded to stealth edit it after Rusty's analysis and change it to vaporization, which shoots the calcs value much higher than what it should be.

Rusty did not participate in the following CRT and Weekly just passed it as if nothing had happened or without informing anyone.
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Im gonna be 100% real with this, I dont know why I changed it nor do i even recall changing it. I agree it should be changed back to 8-B, the current version is inaccurate. Thats my bad, i apologize.
 
A reminder for non staff users to not comment unless they have something useful pertaining to the case.

With Weekly's response, I honestly find it lacking. He doesn't remember changing it? Bit convenient given the severity of the actions. The initial report is lacking, as quite honestly one can reasonably explain what happened without necessarily assuming malice (I live by the saying to never attribute malice to what can be attributed to incompetence). However, the editing part to inflate the value? Pretty damning.
 
Non-staff not contributing to the report, please don't chime in. Curry may speak because she's the one giving the report, although I ask that she keeps pointless chatter to a minimum, obviously.

Weekly seems to deny the motive for falsifying the calc, but he offers no explanation as to why he did do it and admits that he did change it to vaporization without approval and presented it as legitimate. I'm waiting to hear from other staff before crying havoc.
 
GarrixianXD said:
As I said I’ll do this shit before, here’s what Weekly says:

okay for starters no, I did not make this calc with any intention of it being used as an upgrade. I even specifically wrote at the bottom of the blog that it is a bit feat that doesnt affect any scalinghttps://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1145864656393605241/1266101654219128922/image.png?ex=66a3ec8d&is=66a29b0d&hm=185f707c8a18e8be6826652da34ef237458dc3c49f1c40f086dd01c68b1ac501&
this calc was made when RWBY was still City level, it didnt affect any of the scaling at the time

youre really going to accuse me of falsifying a calc to be used in a downgrade that happened over a year after the calc was made, and that happened a year after I was banned? seriously?

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1145864656393605241/1266103274465919127/Yangmelt1.webp?ex=66a3ee0f&is=66a29c8f&hm=1a73a9238e992f31add6b3d9072c6fd7ba6fc6040974f1b53c81cf89a93237b2&
The game says she melts them so that is what I calced.

I even posted a clip of the gameplay at the beginning of the calc to show the feat happening and Rusty backed me up on it after watching the clip commenting the same point of view that I had, that the depiction of the blocks shattering is a gameplay limitation.

Im gonna be 100% real with this, I dont know why I changed it nor do i even recall changing it. I agree it should be changed back to 8-B, the current version is inaccurate. Thats my bad, i apologize.
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Could I see the actual screenshot of this?
 
The calc changing is a false alarm:

2023/3/20 16:57 - TheRustyOne :
This seems fine to me.
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While gameplay shows it shattering, the ability in universe is stated to melt the blocks. Which means the gameplay is a design choice, either via limitations or some other reason.
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Weekly performed this edit on 2023/3/19 22:56, which means he edited his calculation before it was accepted.

Not sure why he admitted that he done that, but it seems like he did not.
 
CurrySenpai said:
As an addendum to my Weekly report I am adding this account from RustyOne, which shows that Weekly got the calc approved the original way as melting (what the text implies at least), but then proceeded to stealth edit it after Rusty's analysis and change it to vaporization, which shoots the calcs value much higher than what it should be.

Rusty did not participate in the following CRT and Weekly just passed it as if nothing had happened or without informing anyone.
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I decided to check the timeframe for this on Weekly's contributions. The stealth edit did in fact took place the same day as Rusty accepted it. However, seems Weekly's recollection of the feat used for support checks out, as the thread to downgrade the ratings (and subsequent one to add the calc on profile) took place well after the fact.

This imo lowers the severity of the infraction, but without an adequate explanation of why the edit took place at all, still is damning.
 
GarrixianXD said:
The calc changing is a false alarm:

2023/3/20 16:57 - TheRustyOne :



Weekly performed this edit on 2023/3/19 22:56, which means he edited his calculation before it was accepted.

Not sure why he admitted that he done that, but it seems like he did not.
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Ah, ninja'd, seems I also was mistaken.

Edit: I, in fact, was not mistaken.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...WBY:_Yang_Melts_Cubes?diff=prev&oldid=7923410

The timeframe is several minutes after Rusty's comment
 
GarrixianXD said:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention the time I listed should be PST. If it says 20th for you then it should say 21st for Rusty’s comment.
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I'm seeing March 20 for both of them as well.

3/20/2023, 4:57:07 AM

05:56, 20 March 2023

We should confirm what is the real time first, since it'd be my fault for not noticing the change if it was before my evaluation.
 
I think I know what's going on. The date of the edit displays in accordance with your timezone, while comment history does not. To be more specific, I changed the timezone on my fandom account to GMT+8 and the time of Weekly's edit changed to 13:56, 20 March 2023, but Rusty's comment is still at 2023/3/20 16:57. This is a bug by fandom; I'm unsure what timezone the comment history system is set on. I think it'll be good to ask about this on Zendesk.
 
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GarrixianXD said:
I think I know what's going on. The date of the edit displays in accordance with your timezone, while comment history does not. To be more specific, I changed the timezone on my fandom account to GMT+8 and the time of Weekly's edit changed to 13:56, 20 March 2023, but Rusty's comment is still at 2023/3/20 16:57. This is a bug by fandom; I'm unsure what timezone the comment history system is set on. I think it'll be good to ask about this on Zendesk.
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From what I'm gathering, seems Fandom runs everywhere on UTC.
 
Though, then recalling again, it’s hella strange since my screen displays 4:57 PM while it’s 4:57 AM for yours; perhaps I’ll straight up request fandom to check if Weekly’s edit was before or after Rusty’s edit via request through Zendesk, or if someone can do it for me it’ll be appreciated.
 
GarrixianXD said:
Though, then recalling again, it’s hella strange since my screen displays 4:57 PM while it’s 4:57 AM for yours; perhaps I’ll straight up request fandom to check if Weekly’s edit was before or after Rusty’s edit via request through Zendesk, or if someone can do it for me it’ll be appreciated.
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This is a weird point to talk about imo because Rusty also just had no recollection of ever approving the vaporization end, which is very sus.
 
CurrySenpai said:
This is a weird point to talk about imo because Rusty also just had no recollection of ever approving the vaporization end, which is very sus.
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To make this clear. I don't remember evaluating Weekly's calculation at all, which is why I'm willing to admit this could be a mistake on my part.

When I commented initially, I took responsibility for that.

It was over 1 year ago and I was trying to get away from everything RWBY related on this wiki. I had no recollection of this blog at all until the previous downgrades.

Note: I figured out the comment's time zone matches what is on your device. Changing my time zone to match my fandom time zone, I can find out the truth.

Weekly's Edit: 05:56, 20 March 2023

My Evaluation: 3/20/2023 8:57 AM

This means my evaluation was made almost three hours after he made the edit. So while Weekly still did change the melting to vaporization for some reason, he did it before my evaluation. Meaning I do share responsibility as I didn't notice the calculation was using vaporization values and not melting values.

Note: There is a possibility I'm still doing something wrong, so maybe it'd be best for someone else to confirm this.

I apologize for any confusion this is causing.
 
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