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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

EldemadeDityjon said:
Why is vengeful spirit Naoya rated as 8-A? I understand he was able to push Maki against a wall, but is there any statement or scan showing that she got hurt? It should be listed as lifting strength, not attack potency, as far as I understand. He have better lifting strength than Maki or something like that? As far as the manga shows, only his max Mach 3 speed was able to damage her.
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Its not ls just to overpower someone like he does. Also, why would he narratively have greater ls than the narratively stronger character?
 
Arkenis said:
Its not ls just to overpower someone like he does. Also, why would he narratively have greater ls than the narratively stronger character?
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I don't understand what you are trying to say. But pretty sure having higher LS than other characters doesn't mean they scale above that characters durability.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I don't understand what you are trying to say. But pretty sure having higher LS than other characters doesn't mean they scale above that characters durability.
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It isn’t LS what he did. And like I asked, why would Naoya have greater LS than the character meant to be narratively strong?

Edit: Why are you talking about being above durability? They just scale to each other.
 
Arkenis said:
Its not ls just to overpower someone like he does. Also, why would he narratively have greater ls than the narratively stronger character?
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Just checked the page it's stated to be evaluated seperately.
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Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...
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While Striking Strength measures the energy of a character's physical attacks, Lifting Strength measures the amount of mass they can lift, which is determined by the amount of force a character can produce. This means that they measure two different physical quantities. Furthermore it can't be assumed that a character that can physically produce the amount of energy used in lifting an object by a certain height can also lift it, if it didn't demonstrate the ability to produce that level of Lifting Strength. It is a common feature within fiction to feature characters capable of vastly greater physical striking strength energy outputs than what would be required to lift weights that they are repeatedly shown to struggle with.
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Hence Lifting Strength and Striking Strength are in general not comparable and should be evaluated separately.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Just checked the page it's stated to be evaluated seperately.
vsbattles.fandom.com

Lifting Strength

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. In other words, it measures the amount of upward force a character can produce. As such, pushing and pulling feats are also considered part of this statistic as long as they have proper calculations to account for the...
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I’m saying Naoya isn’t doing a LS feat. He’s physically attacking her, in the second example he literally hit her and sent her flying into a wall.
 
Arkenis said:
It isn’t LS what he did. And like I asked, why would Naoya have greater LS than the character meant to be narratively strong?
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Why wouldn't it's possible? Just because a character scales above other in AP doesn't mean they should have better LS?
Arkenis said:
Edit: Why are you talking about being above durability? They just scale to each other.
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Because one should damage opponent to some extent to scale to them? Or need a statement for being able to damage opponents that's how normally people scale characters.
 
Arkenis said:
I’m saying Naoya isn’t doing a LS feat. He’s physically attacking her, in the second example he literally hit her and sent her flying into a wall.
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Sent her flying with zero scratches or statement for she getting some damage from that?
Above LS page clearly mentioned. So there is no need to assume Naoya scaling Maki via LS is same as he scales to her SS or durability
It is a common feature within fiction to feature characters capable of vastly greater physical striking strength energy outputs than what would be required to lift weights that they are repeatedly shown to struggle with.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Why wouldn't it's possible? Just because a character scales above other in AP doesn't mean they should have better LS?
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Because Heavenly Restriction makes the person physically strong explain why this would only apply to strikes and not all the muscles of the body? It is clear as day HR enhances the entire body.

EldemadeDityjon said:
Because one should damage opponent to some extent to scale to them? Or need a statement for being able to damage opponents that's how normally people scale characters.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Sent her flying with zero scratches or statement for she getting some damage from that?
Above LS page clearly mentioned. So there is no need to assume Naoya scaling Maki via LS is same as he scales to her SS or durability
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I don't think we need to see scratches or bruising every time to know someone is getting damaged. But if you think he should be downgraded go ahead and make a crt.
 
Arkenis said:
Because Heavenly Restriction makes the person physically strong explain why this would only apply to strikes and not all the muscles of the body? It is clear as day HR enhances the entire body.
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Yeah she is stronger than Naoya I'm not denying that. It's either Both Maki and Naoya has same LS or Naoya is higher. Maki has higher SS and AP that's all.
Arkenis said:
I don't think we need to see scratches or bruising every time to know someone is getting damaged. But if you think he should be downgraded go ahead and make a crt.
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Maybe sometimes later I'll do it. I was just confirming if he had any scans showing damaging Maki.
 
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AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Yknow I just had a random thought. Would sending Choso with Hakari to deal with Uraume have been a better plan? Have Hakari distract them so Choso can poison them via his blood then finish them off?
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Uraume: That's the half cursed one, (Kenjaku's so disgusting). I'll have to wrap this up quicker than planned, Domain Expansion.
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Yknow I just had a random thought. Would sending Choso with Hakari to deal with Uraume have been a better plan? Have Hakari distract them so Choso can poison them via his blood then finish them off?
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Well she had already experienced his poison blood in Shibuya so I don't think it's a good idea and she has great AOE and Danmaku attacks.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Well she had already experienced his poison blood in Shibuya so I don't think it's a good idea and she has great AOE and Danmaku attacks.
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I was thinking more of like a sneak attack piercing blood or something along those lines. Hit them while they’re distracted with Hakari then dip and let Hakari finish off a weakened Uraume who can’t use ice
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
I was thinking more of like a sneak attack piercing blood or something along those lines. Hit them while they’re distracted with Hakari then dip and let Hakari finish off a weakened Uraume who can’t use ice
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Yeah maybe but looking at the current situation. Even Hakari was struggling against her CT. So Choso getting a shot was less likely. Also she should be able to locate his location once he activate his CT because of CE build up.

Should have sent Maki for Sneak attack. But again her cursed tool most likely would have given up her location.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Should have sent Maki for Sneak attack. But again her cursed tool most likely would have given up her location.
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True, but we see even when Gojo tried sensing like this, Toji's speed was still too much to go off it alone. Uraume fighting Hakari would have made it a decent tactic.
 
Arkenis said:
True, but we see even when Gojo tried sensing like this, Toji's speed was still too much to go off it alone. Uraume fighting Hakari would have made it a decent tactic.
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Uraume moon type of thing was already started freezing the surrounding area so I don't see her getting close to her. Also Toji was still struggling against Gojo even with higher speed. He had ISOH to get close to him.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
This new arts by gege all look meh or mid or ass depending on which you think suits that three words.




Yuji is the only one that is passable and at least good here 😭 Gege what did you smoke this time

Bro tryna practice for his eventual idol Manga only to fumble in trying to achieve fashion drip. He IS NOT Araki Hirohiko 😭
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Megumi looks like he is wearing female clothes. 😂
Btw Gojo and Yuji's clothes are decent but these sucks compared to his manga drawings
 
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