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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

NeoKingOfLight said:
She stood back up battle ready. Isshiki’s first strike on Sasuke had him taking a sabbatical. The next two had Sasuke down for the 10 count. Hima took several hits and had an off-screen fight and was still able to go, up till the last part of their fight.

It’s pretty much no difference than VoTE 1: 3T Sasuke vs Kn0 Naruto.
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She has regen, in terms of actual durability she was faring worse
 
MinatoSparkle said:
She has regen, in terms of actual durability she was faring worse
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Regen isn’t the be all end all. Naruto didn’t fair better than Sasuke in those regards against Isshiki/Jigen due to having Regen.

Again, VoTE 1 & 2, Naruto had Regen. This is no different. The Regen only really mattered in those fights, in regard to being stabbed.
 
Not to mention the strikes Jura were throwing didn’t severely damage Hima to the point her regen was carrying her. She is durable enough to withstand his attacks up to a point. Again, 3T Sasuke vs Kn0 Naruto, VoTE 1.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Regen isn’t the be all end all. Naruto didn’t fair better than Sasuke in those regards against Isshiki/Jigen due to having Regen.

Again, VoTE 1 & 2, Naruto had Regen. This is no different. The Regen only really mattered in those fights, in regard to being stabbed.
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I mean in this case regen being a factor is just stated blatantly. Also regardless of how you slice it, Himawari at best showed better endurance than Sasuke, not durability in terms of her body being less damaged.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Regen isn’t the be all end all. Naruto didn’t fair better than Sasuke in those regards against Isshiki/Jigen due to having Regen.

Again, VoTE 1 & 2, Naruto had Regen. This is no different. The Regen only really mattered in those fights, in regard to being stabbed.
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Naruto faired better than Sasuke though. Plus Jura isn't going to kill Himawari when he wants to devour her. The only thing we can agree is she is stronger than KV1 Kawaki.
 
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Did Sarada even damage him? Some smoke wafted from the impact point, but she didn't real do any real damage. At best, Hidari was taken off guard, and got brought down because of it.

Maybe she scales through speed for reacting, but I dunno about scaling throughout.
 
Hidari is planet level for pushing Boruto and should be relative to Bug Shinju. Sarada scales to an unserious Hidari who can't even use his chidori properly. Himawari scales to an unserious Jura. Ain't nobody scaled to anybody this chapter.

Edit: Hold up. Didn't Hidari's imperfect chidori neutralize Boruto's rasengan? Unless Boruto was holding back, the AP should scale but not the speed. Still doesn't scale to Sarada tho.
 
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NeoKingOfLight said:
Not to mention the strikes Jura were throwing didn’t severely damage Hima to the point her regen was carrying her. She is durable enough to withstand his attacks up to a point. Again, 3T Sasuke vs Kn0 Naruto, VoTE 1.
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naa scaling hima anywhere above kcm and the likes is just wonky. I think we need context of the fight before we judge because it seems that jura was not taking it seriously for the most part and just wanted to know how strong she is. Actually, scaling her over v1 karma kawaki is still wrong. Jura was aiming straight to knockout kawaki and he did. Kawaki regen made him wake up after a brief moment. It's like saying koji> sasuke coz he survived more hits from ishikki and even traded blows, you have to recognize in one fight ishikki wasn't serious.
the truth is:
1. Not sure if himawari survived better. considering jura commented she had better healing than a jinjuriki like naruto and we see her cough blood after each strike. It just means hers is better than kawaki
2. Jura was not taking the fight serious for the most part unlike kawaki
3. himawari did zero damage to him and he ate her punches like it was nothing. Heck he literally stood hands in pocket and took a punch straight to the chest without moving

so i see no way in her scaling to him. I do see her scaling to at least first cooperation kcm due to higher affinity statements
 
JohnHendrix212 said:
Did Sarada even damage him? Some smoke wafted from the impact point, but she didn't real do any real damage. At best, Hidari was taken off guard, and got brought down because of it.
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She did damage him, that’s why he needed to heal
 
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HelloThere1089 said:
I was more so making a joke about the vjump cover and how everyone is getting clapped. If I'm being real, yeah, prolly just Hidari v Boruto next chapter until Jura shows up. Or maybe Jura tries to reach Hidari but he needs to clap Kawaki again on the way there.
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my bad.

tho boruto's performance against Hidari should tell us if his cooked against Jura or not.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
my bad.

tho boruto's performance against Hidari should tell us if his cooked against Jura or not.
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Yeah for sure. I think he's gonna do aight. I don't think he's gonna whip out karma just yet. I think he's gonna be fine against the Shinju, might even hold his own against all four of them. Then the village is gonna start trusting Boruto. That's when Kawaki is gonna use the resonance to make Momoshiki take over the body and make Boruto seem like a threat again.
 
KaydeeX said:
The “Otsutsuki killer” likes to nap
F**cking clown
“I now know what I must do”
Lmfao what a joke
How he even got laid down 4 times in a row is astonishing
He should just give up on his dream and die
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i think you dislike kawaki just a tiny bit
 
KaydeeX said:
The “Otsutsuki killer” likes to nap
F**cking clown
“I now know what I must do”
Lmfao what a joke
How he even got laid down 4 times in a row is astonishing
He should just give up on his dream and die
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I think he's gonna do something that'll make you hate him even more lol.
 
Improvement Uchiha Shisui:

[ https://gyazo.com/8665a918ba09a341e1f08569dba3d02e ]
[ https://gyazo.com/49d8bbbb180676419945d96c62d7cbf4 ]

I want to discuss a little regarding Kotoamatsukami. Kotoamatsukami Range, this should reach island or city level. By the time Itachi used Kotoamatsukami to influence his own mind, it was clearly affecting Kabuto as well, who was located far enough away to reach him. What I know is that Kabuto is immune to Genjutsu, because he has a vision filter that can ward off Genjutsu that involve (eye contact). but in the case of Kotoamatsukami, Kabuto really had an influence, this should prove an extraordinary achievement for Kotoamatsukami, namely in terms of its level of capability and reach.

[ https://gyazo.com/95894c4b3133d60f1b6e2465df50e5bb ].

And Uchiha Shisui should have acquired an ability, namely 'Madness Manipulation". I didn't find it in his profile, Kotoamatsukami itself is a genjutsu with a high caliber level, which can influence a person's desires from their own mind, they seem to be made depressed, stressed, and experiencing mental disorders'.

"Mind Manipulation: This type of user relies on direct interaction with the minds of their victims, utilizing various forms of mental attacks to drive them crazy"

What do you think about this?
 
Luxxy_Ethereal said:
Improvement Uchiha Shisui:

[ https://gyazo.com/8665a918ba09a341e1f08569dba3d02e ]
[ https://gyazo.com/49d8bbbb180676419945d96c62d7cbf4 ]

I want to discuss a little regarding Kotoamatsukami. Kotoamatsukami Range, this should reach island or city level. By the time Itachi used Kotoamatsukami to influence his own mind, it was clearly affecting Kabuto as well, who was located far enough away to reach him. What I know is that Kabuto is immune to Genjutsu, because he has a vision filter that can ward off Genjutsu that involve (eye contact). but in the case of Kotoamatsukami, Kabuto really had an influence, this should prove an extraordinary achievement for Kotoamatsukami, namely in terms of its level of capability and reach.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the reaction from Kabuto due to the fact that Itachi broke out of his control? Koto doesn't need to have city level range for that if Kabuto is the one connected to Itachi. And how did it even affect Kabuto. Was he put under it's genjutsu?
Luxxy_Ethereal said:
[ https://gyazo.com/95894c4b3133d60f1b6e2465df50e5bb ].

And Uchiha Shisui should have acquired an ability, namely 'Madness Manipulation". I didn't find it in his profile, Kotoamatsukami itself is a genjutsu with a high caliber level, which can influence a person's desires from their own mind, they seem to be made depressed, stressed, and experiencing mental disorders'.
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Has it ever induced madness? Like has it been stated? It's been a while since I watched the show.
Luxxy_Ethereal said:
"Mind Manipulation: This type of user relies on direct interaction with the minds of their victims, utilizing various forms of mental attacks to drive them crazy"
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He already has that in his Sharingan and Mangekyo sections.
 
Luxxy_Ethereal said:
didn't find it in his profile, Kotoamatsukami itself is a genjutsu with a high caliber level, which can influence a person's desires from their own mind, they seem to be made depressed, stressed, and experiencing mental disorders'.
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Memory manipulation covers that.
 
HelloThere1089 said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the reaction from Kabuto due to the fact that Itachi broke out of his control? Koto doesn't need to have city level range for that if Kabuto is the one connected to Itachi. And how did it even affect Kabuto. Was he put under it's genjutsu?

Has it ever induced madness? Like has it been stated? It's been a while since I watched the show.

He already has that in his Sharingan and Mangekyo sections.
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At first I also thought that it was just a reaction from Kabuto, but on the one hand, the Edo tense jutsu cannot always be controlled by Kabuto. Kabuto basically doesn't control Itachi when Itachi uses Kotoamatsukami, Kabuto hopes Itachi will use his Amaterasu at that time, so he doesn't fully activate puppet mode. meaning that at that time Itachi made the decision on his own mind. Until in the end Itachi influenced his own mind, and influenced Kabuto.

And for Madness Manipulation, as long as this series has been running, there has never been a statement saying that they are experiencing hallucinations and are crazy, but from the expressions on their faces, we can already conclude that they are experiencing mental disorders.

I mean Shisui's Madness Manipulation is based on mind manipulation, which relies on direct interaction with the victim's mind, influencing the victim's mental state until they become crazy'.

please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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