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I’m confused, what exactly happened here?

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Whooping a child for bad manners
 
Not really, we're already told that Himawari has the best affinity for Kurama's chakra than any other Jin (even Nard), so I imagine that is going to be the hand waving for why Himawari is so strong.
My worry is actually when Jura mentions her healing being more in line with a tailed beasts. Opens up the door for it to be rationalized that Jinchuriki inadvertently limit tailed beast and that they can't actually use their powers to the full extent, which could really boost Kurama unsealed in stats
 
My worry is actually when Jura mentions her healing being more in line with a tailed beasts. Opens up the door for it to be rationalized that Jinchuriki inadvertently limit tailed beast and that they can't actually use their powers to the full extent, which could really boost Kurama unsealed in stats
Kurama=/=Kurama+Naruto=/=Kurama+Naruto in perfect affinity.

Even if Naruto is inefficient in using Kurama chakra, he's still above just Kurama.
 
Oh I'm sure of that. I'm more talking about if Himawari starts scaling to god tiers following the potential logic I outlined. Because that would put full power Kurama at scaling to God Tiers (downscaling probably) which adds a few more characters to that tier in the verse
 
Tbh I think I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say here. Are you saying Himawari scaling to Jura, with the given implications, somehow opens up an argument in favor of episode 1 Kurama being god tier? Is that right? Then I don't see how.
 
Tbh I think I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say here. Are you saying Himawari scaling to Jura, with the given implications, somehow opens up an argument in favor of episode 1 Kurama being god tier? Is that right? Then I don't see how.
Yes. Because if the Jinchuriki limit their tailed beast, and Kurama in this weakened state is enough to boost Himawari to a level she's able to fight someone comparable to Code then that would imply that at his full power state he's at least able to fight on that level.
 
Yes. Because if the Jinchuriki limit their tailed beast, and Kurama in this weakened state is enough to boost Himawari to a level she's able to fight someone comparable to Code then that would imply that at his full power state he's at least able to fight on that level.
Tier 5 Hashirama
 
Btw, has anyone ever calculated the TBB Craters that form just from the pure mass of the TBB?

Can lead to some good lifting strength feats I think?
 
he is a god tier but not up to the likes of naruto and sasuke and above. He scales to true essence boruto which is like low end limited code. so around delta level ish. that's if he didn't improve at all. I think kawaki actually improved. He didn't just train anything else asides his karma. His eye is proof his karma evolved
What feat scales him to True Essence Boruto?
KV1 Boruto was keeping up with KV1 Kawaki just fine. And KV1 Boruto was completely outclassed by V1 Code.
 
Oh I'm sure of that. I'm more talking about if Himawari starts scaling to god tiers following the potential logic I outlined. Because that would put full power Kurama at scaling to God Tiers (downscaling probably) which adds a few more characters to that tier in the verse
Himawari's potential is beyond just the power of the nine-tails. It is very possible she can use Kurama's chakra better than Kurama himself. They have been glimpses of an awakening within her even b4 Kurama.
Kurama's chakra on its own is proven to reach beyond normal god tier level with Baryon Mode though. So it depends on how it is used.

And the bijuu logically have better regen than jinchuiki since they really can't die.
 
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I’m confused, what exactly happened here?

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Jura fired the tiny condensed black and white chakra used in making bijuu bombs.
They pierced Himawari's abdomen and arm. You could see tiny puncture wounds on her body before she healed.
And this panel proves how taxing regeneration is on chakra.
 
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Also… @MinatoSparkle

The scan showing Hima healing a little after suffering the damage shows that the healing affect isn’t instant nor takes place at the instance of damage but shortly after, which means, as I pointed out, her durability scales to his strikes. She has to be able to withstand them before the healing helps her. Now yes, that is also an endurance feat, but she was getting hit harder than Kv1 Kawaki whom, despite his regen, was knocked out from weaker attacks.
 
What does Code giving self-awareness (sentience) to the Juubi mean in terms of abilities?

Creation? Soul Manipulation? Mind Manipulation? Life Manipulation? Evolution Manipulation?
 
Eh, this might be less an ability for code and more just a sympton of him messing around with something without a proper understanding. But if it gave anything, probably just Mind Manipulation
 
Also… @MinatoSparkle

The scan showing Hima healing a little after suffering the damage shows that the healing affect isn’t instant nor takes place at the instance of damage but shortly after, which means, as I pointed out, her durability scales to his strikes. She has to be able to withstand them before the healing helps her. Now yes, that is also an endurance feat, but she was getting hit harder than Kv1 Kawaki whom, despite his regen, was knocked out from weaker attacks.
I'm fine with KM0 Himawari>K1 Kawaki
 
Sarada giving the ten tails dude a lethal blow is insane. Himmiwari fight actually wasn’t that bad. Boruto saving the day was fine I guess, I was hoping to see sarada’s ms but I guess we’ll have to wait another month or two
 
Eh, this might be less an ability for code and more just a sympton of him messing around with something without a proper understanding. But if it gave anything, probably just Mind Manipulation
Naturally, the evolution of the ten tails when it devours Otsutsuki chakra is to turn into the Shinju.
Jura noted Code's chakra as the reason for the Shinju gaining self-awareness. This is not the case with a natural shinju formed from Otsutsuki chakra. They become non-sentient trees. I think the ten tails is really just an organic robot.
However, I agree that Code didn't actively do it and neither is it what he intended to do. It is more an effect of his special genetics and chakra.
The wiki doesn't have a page for this kind of ability

Sentience Manipulation - https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Sentience_Manipulation . Though it may fall under Mind Manipulation as you said.

And thinking about it, Code should get Creation and Life manipulation for Claw Grimes.
 
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No one capable of rational thought is gonna go: SPSM Naruto < White Karma Code < Jura ~ Himawari < Kurama < SPSM Naruto. Like be so fr, no one is worried that Kurama is going to get retro buffed, cuz it just can't happen. Current Kurama would just be magically stronger, as ass as that is.
Ehm well actually Jigen is only above Naruto with the Juubi's chakra, No Limiters Code is a Nerfed Sasuke rival, the whole verse loses to Juubito cause Jura is part of a juvenile Juubi :geek:
It’s an Oroboros
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Yes because Kabuto doesn't know every single jutsu on the planet. The only control he has are the simple commands that he gives, like "defeat the Kage". But that doesn't prove that the connection isn't there. Imagine if I call you on your cellphone and just don't talk and stay quiet. That is possible right? That's how I interpret the scene. Kabuto needs the connection to be in place for the puppets to follow his orders.
I agree with you, it was just a reaction from Kabuto when he realized Itachi was out of his control.
Ah ok. I don't think this is enough. But if mods think it is then it might be able to pass. Can you give scans of these expressions and the chapters.
Oh yeah, for the scans and chapters you asked for, I forgot which chapter it happened in, but at least I still remember the episode, maybe 358-359 when Hirusen gave orders to Shisui to repel the Kirigakure troops led by AO.
 
Oh yeah, for the scans and chapters you asked for, I forgot which chapter it happened in, but at least I still remember the episode, maybe 358-359 when Hirusen gave orders to Shisui to repel the Kirigakure troops led by AO.
So that entire arc is filler I think. I don't know how the wiki treats fillers because we don't have anime only profiles. But I saw the episodes and yeah, it can qualify as madness inducement. Good catch.
 
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