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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

YukaSama4 said:
Iirc that was about maximums
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Rosa said:
can you send this?
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Nah it's Extention technique
EXTENSION (拡張 - kakuchō)
An original technique that applies the innate cursed technique.

An innate cursed technique cannot be changed, but an original jujutsu technique that applies the innate technique can be activated.

The extension technique is established by expanding on the interpretation of a cursed technique, for example, it is possible to cover a large area by confining the cursed energy (technique) to the material you touch. (*Note: This example refers to Nanami’s Collapse, which is an extension of his innate Ratio Technique)
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TheGunsFinalWrath said:
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
You literally claimed that I said Yuta's ce output sucks.
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I did not. I said that YukaSama4 said it. I quoted your comment and bolded the control part. Please read.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Look above.
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You too.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Uh, the whole reason you and Milky are disagreeing with me on?? I said his ce control sucks when compared to Ryu, but even with that, his output matches that of Ryu's thanks to his ce reserves.
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Actually, no. The only time you said it's compared to Ryu was when we called you out.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
His output doesn't suck. His CE control does tho. Only reason he matched with Ryu is due to his abnormally high reserves that compensated for his ce control not being on Ryu level. If it was Ryu's level, Ryu is a instant goner.
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You said his CE control sucks. That's all you said. It was not compared to Ryu's output.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Sure, prove it. We already have two instances where characters get a great boost in output the more ce reserves they have. Hakari and Sukuna are great examples.
Sukuna has over 2x ce reserves of that of Gojo, but gojo is slightly superior (or equal or more, whatever u wanna go with) to him in ce reinforcement and the like. Why? Because Ce control.
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Again this comment of yours also implies that his CE control just outright sucks, not compared to Ryu.

If you mean that his CE control sucks compared to Ryu's control, then that's something different from what you said originally. And even then that's something that's not always 1:1. Yuta's CE control and output is actually one of the best in the verse.
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Arnoldstone18 said:
infinity would still be extremely useful. That’s how good it is imo.
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That's just not true though. Limitless was outright stated to suck without both these things I mentioned.
 
**** it 1 AM Grade 1 sorcerer tierlist
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Rosa said:
Choso's go-to attack is PB, so I think so yea, and I don't think Mei Mei has any durability feats putting her on the level of Shibuya Yuji (who was getting ****** over by the potency of PB) nor any resistances to poison
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Yuji doesn't have outstanding durability for his level of AP, and given what we know about her, she's in the same level as Nanami in terms of physicals at least, and Yuji is ONLY equal to Nanami.

Also IDK what the poison matters for there, because I think she'd be hard pressed to even get herself caught in a PB. Not because she'd dodge, but because she wouldn't get into that situation. There's no way in hell she doesn't know about Piercing Blood, so she'd anti strat
 
Also, Higuruma just counters Geto. His CSM will get confiscated and I'm pretty sure Higuruma can get a death penalty.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
That's just not true though. Limitless was outright stated to suck without both these things I mentioned.
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What? It is impossible for Limitless to suck… suck in comparison to who? Is it because Gojo Satoru is the best user on top of being born with Six Eyes?

start by telling me which CT trumps infinity and/or unlimited void if we are considering domains as an extension of CT.
 
Giannysmag said:
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What the f*ck

First of all, Naoya > Kusakabe. Naoya ~< Naobito, so they should be in the same tier. Secondly, Nanami and Mei Mei + Ui Ui > Todo. Todo is physically weaker than Nanami for sure, and Nanami is far too smart and versatile to have Todo above. Then, Naobito we know is just a machine, so he should be above Kusakabe.

Also for Naoya, we know he has the firepower to harm f*cking Toji, so he's definitely above Kusakabe.

3 bros Choso is still getting blitzed by Naoya.

ALSO IDK how Teen Geto loses to Higuruma. Higuruma is bad at H2h, so if Geto gets caught without his CT, his martial arts and physicals should get him out of that well.

M3X_2.0 said:
Also, Higuruma just counters Geto. His CSM will get confiscated and I'm pretty sure Higuruma can get a death penalty.
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Teen Geto is a very high IQ fighter, so he'd figure it out. Also considering his H2H skills, which should surpass Teen Gojo's, I feel like H2h he beats Higuruma even if his CT is taken away
 
YukaSama4 said:
Which CT would've worked much better than the limitless if it was given the six eyes
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Almost all really. But to think of a few:

Construction - They'd make better weapons and more durable defenses.
Ratio Technique - Could create finer ratios or bigger ratios, and more ratios along the body parts.
Projection Sorcery - Would probably increase the application of frame positioning and also what can be frozen in frames.
Blood Manipulation - It might be something similar to how Ghouls control their rc cells, they'd have far better internal control of the blood since we know Choso can't harden all his blood due to thrombosis, it would allow for them to do so through constant density changes.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Without Six Eyes it sucks.
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Correction: it's barely even f*cking usable without the six eyes

Arkenis said:
Projection Sorcery - Would probably increase the application of frame positioning and also what can be frozen in frames.
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I feel like Gojo would upgrade it to like 120fps or something absurd like that. Imagine that 24fps lets you move at 343 meters per second, then 120fps would be 5x sound speed
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Without Six Eyes it sucks.

Without being a genius like Gojo it sucks.

Without both you're just weak as ****.
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Without being skilled any CT can suck look at Takaba. You’re just arguing based on incredulity at this point.

Arnoldstone18 said:
start by telling me which CT trumps infinity and/or unlimited void if we are considering domains as an extension of CT.
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Guacamolefletcher said:
Teen Geto is a very high IQ fighter, so he'd figure it out. Also considering his H2H skills, which should surpass Teen Gojo's, I feel like H2h he beats Higuruma even if his CT is taken away
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Figure out what? Higuruma's in char first move is to open his Domain. Geto canonically died without learning anti-domain techniques. Even if he did know a few, Higuruma's Domain would much likely interpret that as violence.

The first moment Hig opens his Domain, Geto won't use CSM and Higuruma will confiscate it and get the Executioner's Sword.
 
Arnoldstone18 said:
Without being skilled any CT can suck look at Takaba. You’re just arguing based on incredulity at this point.
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No? It's been stated that the limitless without the six eyes is barely even usable. A non six eyes limitless user would basically just be a physical brawler

M3X_2.0 said:
Figure out what? Higuruma's in char first move is to open his Domain. Geto canonically died without learning anti-domain techniques. Even if he did know a few, Higuruma's Domain would much likely interpret that as violence.

The first moment Hig opens his Domain, Geto won't use CSM and Higuruma will confiscate it and get the Executioner's Sword.
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Why would he get the executioner's sword first though?
 
YukaSama4 said:
How would he get death penalty on Gojo
Also Gojo will spam blue to keep him away or even screw him up
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Blue is limitless technique. When CT gets confiscated it would remove all of the limitless based abilities

Also from what we see it wouldn't come back even if Higu dies so Gojo will be fighting Higuruma with just his CE Reinforcements. Oh six eyes might still remain.

Regarding Death Penalty I guess Higuruma can frame something on him depending on the case. Didn't he killed few people from that organisation which was trying to kill Riko?
 
Yall really do love underrating a CT simply because a certain user is so damn good at it.

Every top 10 CT is OP with six eyes+a skilled af user, know this and know peace.

It’s even hinted that without Mahoraga, limitless users of the past dont “suck”.
 
Arnoldstone18 said:
Without being skilled any CT can suck look at Takaba. You’re just arguing based on incredulity at this point.
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Not really, I'm not saying that Limitless suck because the user is skilless. One thing is having no skill, another is not being born with Gojo's genius.

Limitless is literally useless without a super rare external condition, and even with it, you can still suck if you don't have Gojo's level of skill.
Arnoldstone18 said:
start by telling me which CT trumps infinity and/or unlimited void if we are considering domains as an extension of CT.
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Toji was straight up negging Infinity. Infinity got automated because of Gojo's skill and Six Eyes. Please put this inside your head: Limitless is only broken because of external factors that are outside the control of the user. If he doesn't get lucky enough to be born with Six Eyes, he won't use it as efficient as Gojo does. If he doesn't get lucky enough to be as good as Gojo, he won't use it as good as Gojo did.

Arguing Domains makes no sense because CTs are nullified inside Domains. How do you expect a CT to neg a Domain if it can't be used?
 
Giannysmag said:
Assuming they are all at their max potential
1. Copy
2. Comedian
3. Limitless + Six Eyes
4/5. 10 Shadows / Idle Transfiguration
6. Angel's CT
idk about the rest
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Now its my turn
1.Limitless + Six eyes (Litteraly op and currently only countered by isoh,mahoraga and DA/DE (if they even land lol))
2.Comedian
3.Ctrl C + Ctrl V
4.10 shadows
5.Idle transfiguration
6.Star Rage/CS manipulaiton
Idk abt rest
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Blue is limitless technique. When CT gets confiscated it would remove all of the limitless based abilities

Also from what we see it wouldn't come back even if Higu dies so Gojo will be fighting Higuruma with just his CE Reinforcements. Oh six eyes might still remain.

Regarding Death Penalty I guess Higuruma can frame something on him depending on the case. Didn't he killed few people from that organisation which was trying to kill Riko?
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He will just use SD if he found himself cornered ig
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Not really, I'm not saying that Limitless suck because the user is skilless. One thing is having no skill, another is not being born with Gojo's genius.

Limitless is literally useless without a super rare external condition, and even with it, you can still suck if you don't have Gojo's level of skill.

Toji was straight up negging Infinity. Infinity got automated because of Gojo's skill and Six Eyes. Please put this inside your head: Limitless is only broken because of external factors that are outside the control of the user. If he doesn't get lucky enough to be born with Six Eyes, he won't use it as efficient as Gojo does. If he doesn't get lucky enough to be as good as Gojo, he won't use it as good as Gojo did.

Arguing Domains makes no sense because CTs are nullified inside Domains. How do you expect a CT to neg a Domain if it can't be used?
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Why are you using a guy capable of giving Sukuna a boner without using CE… and same guy with a literal anti-CT weapon in your argument.

Also a CT user has to be skilled otherwise it’s useless. If you are arguing from that angle, clone UiUi and give him any of the top 10 CT and tell me why UiUi with limitless wouldn’t be top 3.

The super rare external conditions just amps the CT… doesn’t make it any less bad ass.
 
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