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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

M3X_2.0 said:
Based on what? Yuki’s feats are limited to his fight against Kenjaku. Yuta is the one with better durability feats, and the one compared to Yuji, who is one of the toughest characters in the series by far.
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Output, Yuki can one-shot special grade cursed spirits whereas someone like Yuta requires RCT in order to do so as seen in his fight in Sendai colony. And Yuta's best durability feats are either against a weakened sukuna losing more and more of his output or Ryu, and their own feats just aren't comparable to Yuki's. Nor does their framing really support Yuta having greater output than the likes of Yuki, as he gets his special grade status off of stuff like Rika and his amount of CE. Yuki's special grade status appears to have come solely from her high output and her feats in terms of output are also demonstrably better than Yuta.

Yuji is tough yes, but it's made clear while he's fighting Sukuna that his and Yuta's toughness aren't above the likes of Ryu. And the fact that Yuta and Yuji didn't do meaningful damage to Sukuna until after his output had dropped even further and he'd been put off guard by the likes of his own CT also points towards Yuta's output not being on the same level as Yuki's.

And statements about Ryu having the highest output also ignore Yuki since she was never a culling games player, Kenjaku didn't know anything about her, and Sukuna never met her.
M3X_2.0 said:
You’re acting like Yuta will simply stand still while Kenjaku’s Domain do all the work against him and Rika. He can dispell her so she won’t take any damage, or simply use a Cursed Technique like Cursed Speech to command Kenjaku to stand still and beat him to dispell the Domain. The SD will get shredded yeah, but it still takes time, enough time for Yuta to act and use a CT.
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You act like Kenjaku doesn't know how to defend against Cursed Speech. It's a very simple technique to defend against, beyond the fact that Yuta without his domain can't use it without prepping first. The main reason that Yuta gets away with his so often is that he constantly has his opponents distracted when he goes for Cursed Speech. And whether or not Yuta dispells Rika he still lacks any real way to do anything meaningful enough to cause Kenjaku to drop his domain in the time it would take his SD to get stripped away. Both Gojo and Yuki lost their SD within seconds of summoning it, Yuki while running towards Kenjaku and Gojo after dodging one attack from Sukuna. There's nothing he either knows at the moment or could know naturally that could give him anything good to work to take Kenjaku's domain down.

His best bet is angel's curse technique yes but Kenjaku isn't going to wait around for Yuta to perform any curse techinque. Just like Yuta he has mutliple means for ranged attacks, such as Uzumaki or just a special grade cursed spirit or a slew of lower grade ones. Not to mention that Kenjaku is also allowed to move and attack Yuta up close if he so wishes. Not to mention, it's not like Kenjaku wouldn't assume that Yuta probably has Angel's CT as that was something Sukuna figured was likely as well.
 
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Duedate8898 said:
Output, Yuki can one-shot special grade cursed spirits whereas someone like Yuta requires RCT in order to do so as seen in his fight in Sendai colony. And Yuta's best durability feats are either against a weakened sukuna losing more and more of his output or Ryu, and their own feats just aren't comparable to Yuki's. Nor does their framing really support Yuta having greater output than the likes of Yuki, as he gets his special grade status off of stuff like Rika and his amount of CE. Yuki's special grade status appears to have come solely from her high output and her feats in terms of output are also demonstrably better than Yuta.

Yuji is tough yes, but it's made clear while he's fighting Sukuna that his and Yuta's toughness aren't above the likes of Ryu. And the fact that Yuta and Yuji didn't do meaningful damage to Sukuna until after his output had dropped even further and he'd been put off guard by the likes of his own CT also points towards Yuta's output not being on the same level as Yuki's.

And statements about Ryu having the highest output also ignore Yuki since she was never a culling games player, Kenjaku didn't know anything about her, and Sukuna never met her.

You act like Kenjaku doesn't know how to defend against Cursed Speech. It's a very simple technique to defend against, beyond the fact that Yuta without his domain can't use it without prepping first. The main reason that Yuta gets away with his so often is that he constantly has his opponents distracted when he goes for Cursed Speech. And whether or not Yuta dispells Rika he still lacks any real way to do anything meaningful enough to cause Kenjaku to drop his domain in the time it would take his SD to get stripped away. Both Gojo and Yuki lost their SD within seconds of summoning it, Yuki while running towards Kenjaku and Gojo after dodging one attack from Sukuna. There's nothing he either knows at the moment or could know naturally that could give him anything good to work to take Kenjaku's domain down.

His best bet is angel's curse technique yes but Kenjaku isn't going to wait around for Yuta to perform any curse techinque. Just like Yuta he has mutliple means for ranged attacks, such as Uzumaki or just a special grade cursed spirit or a slew of lower grade ones. Not to mention that Kenjaku is also allowed to move and attack Yuta up close if he so wishes. Not to mention, it's not like Kenjaku wouldn't assume that Yuta probably has Angel's CT as that was something Sukuna figured was likely as well.
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Awekened Yuji has better durability than Ryu( and Yuta) tbh
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Sukuna saying he has the same amount of CE as Yuta right now is weird given he said the same thing 10 chapters ago. Is he schizophrenic?
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A thought occurred as I'm really starting to remember that Sukuna has brain damage. It's possible that he was wrong when he gave that estimate of himself earlier since he wasn't in the best "headspace" then (I know, I know, go ahead and sue me). The recent statement putting him on Yuta's level seems accurate since it's from the narrator.
 
JnSteHar002 said:
A thought occurred as I'm really starting to remember that Sukuna has brain damage. It's possible that he was wrong when he gave that estimate of himself earlier since he wasn't in the best "headspace" then (I know, I know, go ahead and sue me). The recent statement putting him on Yuta's level seems accurate since it's from the narrator.
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What estimate?
 
But man Gege is so weird. He says the meteor will turn a town into ashes but it doesn’t do it. What’s the point of the statement then lmfao.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
But man Gege is so weird. He says the meteor will turn a town into ashes but it doesn’t do it. What’s the point of the statement then lmfao.
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May be the height which he drops the meteor or he was just concentrating all his AP to single point to attack Sukuna?
 
M3X_2.0 said:
But man Gege is so weird. He says the meteor will turn a town into ashes but it doesn’t do it. What’s the point of the statement then lmfao.
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tbf Jogo had motive to not destroy Shibuya there, so if the calc was valid that would be the cope for it lol
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
May be the height which he drops the meteor or he was just concentrating all his AP to single point to attack Sukuna?
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The height is definitely a factor since the meteor is slow as ****. At higher altitudes the meteor would get ablation speeds and would certainly bust not only shibuya but Tokyo out of the map. But the way it’s written it seems he was refering to the regular meteor.
Rosa said:
tbf Jogo had motive to not destroy Shibuya there, so if the calc was valid that would be the cope for it lol
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Tbf I doubt the meteor can even do that, it seems more like a statement of how it would destroy Shibuya like it did, just an exaggerated estimation.
 
Analyzing why is it gojo who opens the domain
  • The text is in black panel, hence its someone else not sukuna
  • It caught sukuna attention by suprise in the very next panel, so its MUST be because of the chanting sound instead of just overwhelming amount of CE gojo has
 
eibwen said:
Analyzing why is it gojo who opens the domain
  • The text is in black panel, hence its someone else not sukuna
  • It caught sukuna attention by suprise in the very next panel, so its MUST be because of the chanting sound instead of just overwhelming amount of CE gojo has
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Yes, yes keep the agenda going. Only a day until the GOAT proves all the deniers wrong
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Yuji just needs to master Shrine properly. I'm placing him top 3. Lol
He doesn't need domain now he has RCT and SD but it would be cool to see Yuji having a Domain of his own.
 
Gojo will use Unlimited Void and for the first time it won’t affect his allies, symbolizing that he isn’t lonely anymore and that true strength comes from fighting alongside others.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
But man Gege is so weird. He says the meteor will turn a town into ashes but it doesn’t do it. What’s the point of the statement then lmfao.
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My best guess is that there might be a translation error and the meteor could do that but isn't guaranteed in every use. There might be other factors/requirements needed to reach that destructive level and Jogo couldn't since he's getting the #### beaten out of him by Sukuna at the time.

It could be another one of those times that make me prefer feats over statements.
 
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