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to say it "sucks" is a relative claim tbf, and I've only seen then quantify that claim by saying it's worse than Ryu's which is true.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Giannysmag
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EldemadeDityjon
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the calc for Yuki dodging gravity finna be crazy
or the Kenny reacting to black hole being calced
or calcing kamo reacting to Naoya and Naoya blitzing and the like
or Maki in GW with the bullet speed calc
why can't we use thiscalcs shows the narrative.
Mach 3 statement for Naoya
PB speed can be increased
They're nitpicking like this despite both being narrative statements; they want to pick one and disregard the other.
They don't want to disregard the Mach 3 statement, but they are obsessed with ignoring the PB speed increase statement.
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I never said Yuta's output sucks. I said his ce control when compared to Ryu's, sucks.
Yuta CE reserves >>> Ryu's
Ryu's CE control >>> Yuta's.
Yuta and Ryu's CE reinforcement output >=
Yuta CE reserves >>> Ryu's
Ryu's CE control >>> Yuta's.
Yuta and Ryu's CE reinforcement output >=
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Then read:
Anyway, both of this claims are false.
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Ok, then prove it. Or just concede.Not that hard. I already listed out good examples and u even agreed with Rosa's explanation which is what my take IS. (Which is honestly a concession from you already)
Guacamolefletcher
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The real debate:
Kenjaku 1 million curse Uzumaki vs Max output Ryu
Kenjaku 1 million curse Uzumaki vs Max output Ryu
Bro studied in reach university
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good luck in proving that
also what? ce control ISN'T the sole factor that determines your ce output? I literally just said his ce reserves filled in the between him and Ryu in ce output. Just like how Ryu's CE control does the same for him against Yuta's abnormally huge ce reserves.
EldemadeDityjon
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LMAO 
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Why? It was never stated that his CE output sucks, neither was his CE control.
I cannot disprove a negative.
EldemadeDityjon
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Giannysmag
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Nah he'd win
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Which I never ever said in the first place. Are you reading or not?
"It was never stated his ce control is worse than Ryu's"
........... THEN HE'D have THE BEST CE OUTPUT through control alongside Ryu (Literally the reason why he has the best is centered around his CE CONTROL) and then literally finish off Ryu in far less than a minute
Ok so you think Yuta can one shot Ryu if you think they got equal ce control. makes me curious if you ever read hakari vs kashimo fight talking about output (JP), Sukuna having more than 2x reserves of that of gojo, but they're equally matched in ce reinforcement. (Yuta statement and gojo vs sukuna h2h combat)
EldemadeDityjon
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He saw Maki's endurance feats and said "if you can do allat then you can eat this Black Flash"
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guess i should do more dumb takes less gooIT HAPPENED AGAIN
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LMAO
prime toji vs strongest version of naoya who wins?
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It seems that you have not been keeping up with the conversation at all. I'm not saying you said his output sucks, @YukaSama4 said that. I quoted his comment too. I'm talking about both of you.
Quote me saying this. Actually, I don't think no one ever said this. You said with all the words that Yuta's control is bad. I said it isn't. Milly said it isn't.
So no, Yuta's output doesn't suck. If it's compared to Ryu, then fine, everyone's output suck.
EldemadeDityjon
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Toji smokes
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Best explanation I’ve seen all year.
Maki answered this already.
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Yeah lol just asked out of boredom
Guacamolefletcher
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LMAO
I feel like the person who wrote that wrote "hidden inventory" as a pun related to the arc name being "hidden inventory," HOWEVER
The name of the arc actually has deeper meaning.
It's 懐玉・玉折編 and it means more like:
"Hidden Gem, Broken Gem"
So it's about how the hidden potential in someone like Gojo, and the potential that was squandered (Geto) due to mental health struggles. Honestly, it's my favorite arc in JJK, and I would've liked several arcs for them. We should've gotten one about how they became who they were at the time, and considered each other "the strongest," only to THEN have the Toji arc, and Geto's turn.
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"I'm gonna create some dumb theory that Yuta's output is bad based on absolutely nothing. Despite the manga not acknowledging this at all, but on the contrary, saying his output isn't bad, and making him dispute against the guy with the highest output in history, only slightly losing to him. But if they don't disprove a negative, then they're dumb"
That's basically what you been doing this past month with all of this "Yuta output bad" bullshit you created out of nowhere.
EldemadeDityjon
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Btw Choso's 150 years experience bullshit comes for Supernova not for PB
Guacamolefletcher
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It's honing blood manipulation in general, dummy. it's about honing his own cursed technique. Supernova is not a cursed technique, it's an application of blood manipulation.Btw Choso's 150 years experience bullshit comes for Supernova not for PB
EldemadeDityjon
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This move was Choso's original.
Read whats written in the scan properly. You just started making headcanon for whatever comes to your mind.
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Idk how he understood that from this scan like holy shit. Choso spent 150 years getting better at Supernova only? **** everything else? lol
Guacamolefletcher
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I remember when I was first reading it I thought "damn so he fights Yuji and he tells Yuji that he's not that strong, and we also see Ryu say that his output isn't that impressive, so Yuta is probably weak"
But then I thougth about it more, and we actually just see Yuta do insane feats of keeping up with Ryu in combat, the person who has insane combat strength and then have no anti feats. It's really just a misreading, and making an erroneous connection between two things, to say Yuta is weak in output.
IN FACT, if we take the interpretation that your base body + CE reinforcement determines your AP, then Yuta's output is probably insane considering his build isn't super muscular or anything like that. He's a skinny 17 year old, but using CE output he can go toe to toe with insanely strong people
Choso original born from honing blood manipulation for 150 years. He didn't spend 150 years honing just supernova, supernova is a result of honing BM
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Bruh you've quoted this message 4 times now, leave me alone I will reply when I'm interested
EldemadeDityjon
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It didn't say this technique instead this move*
Also its called original. So Blood Manipulation is limited to choso only?
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I just KNEW this would be the argument, and even then this means Piercing Blood > 150 Years of Honing lmao. Absolute cope.Btw Choso's 150 years experience bullshit comes for Supernova not for PB
EldemadeDityjon
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Stop misinterpreting the context.
Show me where Kamo uses Supernova. You are making headcanon of supernova being a common abilities within Kamo clan.
Guacamolefletcher
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This literally doesn't matter. All that matters is Choso has been honing BM non stop for 150 years
NGL Choso probably beats every grade 1 - Mei Mei.
Mei Mei herself has insane AP with Bird Strike and insane versatility in combat, but I struggle to see how Nanami is beating Choso, for example
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I quoted this comment once. If you don't want replies, then stop saying dumb shit or just get the **** outta here. Idc if you only reply when you're interested, should not reply at all.
Please get better at reading comprehension.
These guys make connections that aren't supported by the manga at all and act like whatever they connected is a fact. The manga NEVER acknowledge Yuta's output as low, it's the opposite actually. Ryu says Yuta's output is not bad at all and in the end they match each other.
Like what's their problem? Why the **** do they think Yuta's output suck when it's TOLD that it is not?
EldemadeDityjon
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So you are coping that Choso's PB is faster than Kamo? So you conceded PB speed can be increased?
Thanks
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No? Where did that even come fromSo you are coping that Choso's PB is faster than Kamo? So you conceded PB speed can be increased?
Thanks
