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Darksied cannot killed permanently because it's part of the cosmic balance by the Source's wordsDoesn't indicate that on his profile.
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Darksied cannot killed permanently because it's part of the cosmic balance by the Source's wordsDoesn't indicate that on his profile.
Still don't see it on his profile, and I thought that his immortality just came from his God Head.It does tho
He gets his immortality from the source which is 1-B
This.Unlike when it is an avatar (where the true Darkside could simply create another Avatar or astral representation), they could theoretically incapacitate its true form for 24 hours, not need to kill him
Darksied cannot killed permanently because it's part of the cosmic balance by the Source's words
He would resurrect from that due to higher dimensional source bsBut he can incap him with stuff like type 2 info manipulation.
Yes, although honestly, all the inhabitants of TSoG should have Info Hax or AE based on it, since they manipulate their realms that exists beyond the Speed Force Wall(the barrier is not the speed force), as matter is pure informationBut he can incap him with stuff like type 2 info manipulation.
TD only makes him immune to the stuff he transcends i dont see any information stuff in pokemon, and his Nep doesnt cover Information, also what about 7D range?As for #10, this is where things get tricky.
He can't kill or even affect True Arceus due to the latter's NEP and TD, but nothing Arceus has can really harm him due to his resistances, and Sonic has kept up in speed with an omnipotent being before (Solaris) so nothing says he can't do the same with True Form Arceus.
7D Bfr?As for Makina (whose abilities sorely lack justifications, dear lord), both seem to stone wall the other, but Sonic blitzes with Speed Unequalized.
Honestly Darksied just needs to exist and occasionally do his job, but nothing stops him from being incapacitated. Hell, canonically we have an arc in the Post-Crisis where Darksied was incapacitated for weeks, which led to internal wars in his Empire (all caused by my boi Neron)He would resurrect from that due to higher dimensional source bs
Neron>darkseid frHonestly Darksied just needs to exist and occasionally do his job, but nothing stops him from being incapacitated. Hell, canonically we have an arc in the Post-Crisis where Darksied was incapacitated for weeks, which led to internal wars in his Empire (all caused by my boi Neron)
Where are you getting 7-D from???TD only makes him immune to the stuff he transcends i dont see any information stuff in pokemon, and his Nep doesnt cover Information, also what about 7D range?
7D Bfr?
The Sonic 6D thread has it in its op when talking about who scalesWhere are you getting 7-D from???
I thought only solaris has 7-D stuffThe Sonic 6D thread has it in its op when talking about who scales
Super forms can reach his 7D HDE so they have the rangeI thought only solaris has 7-D stuff
When I finish revising Oma Zi-O they're getting slammed into #11.Ok, now that 6D Sonic finally got accepted (it still needs to be on the profiles but all that means is adding the 6D blog to the verse page and changing all the 5-D's in the character profiles to 6-D), let's talk Sonic people.
Right off the bat, he is above everyone from the #11 spot to the #15 spot, especially as he can affect beings with AE1 like Darkseid due to both the NPI of the Super Forms including an AE1 being (Illumina) and due to his Type 1 CM/Type 2 Info.
Also, people like Super Sonic (and especially Starfall Super Sonic) outhax those like Darkseid.
As for #10, this is where things get tricky.
He can't kill or even affect True Arceus due to the latter's NEP and TD, but nothing Arceus has can really harm him due to his resistances, and Sonic has kept up in speed with an omnipotent being before (Solaris) so nothing says he can't do the same with True Form Arceus.
As for Makina (whose abilities sorely lack justifications, dear lord), both seem to stone wall the other, but Sonic blitzes with Speed Unequalized.
You also have people like Solaris, who exists in past, present, and future and must be defeated in all 3 time periods simultaneously.
Thus, Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share the #10 spot with Arceus and Makina.
You need proof sonic can interact with nonexistent beings in the first placeTD only makes him immune to the stuff he transcends i dont see any information stuff in pokemon, and his Nep doesnt cover Information, also what about 7D range?
That part of his existence is still in existenceYou need proof sonic can interact with nonexistent beings in the first place
We can’t just assume sonic can interact with NEP beings like arceus when he has no feats of doing so
1. Isn't NEP only immune from physical stuff due to incorporeality?You need proof sonic can interact with nonexistent beings in the first place
We can’t just assume sonic can interact with NEP beings like arceus when he has no feats of doing so
Noted.When I finish revising Oma Zi-O they're getting slammed into #11.
What does this mean1. Isn't NEP only immune from physical stuff due to incorporeality?
Arceus lacks aspect 4 but sonic doesn’t even have NEP interaction in the first place2. If not then Sonic can still hurt him with Info Manip since he lacks aspect 4 of NEP.
The NEP page states that all users must be Incorporeal, which I assume is what protects them from physical blows.What does this mean
Arceus lacks aspect 4 but sonic doesn’t even have NEP interaction in the first place
Interacting with incorporeality doesn’t mean you can interact with arceus’ level of NEP
Also I’m pretty sure arceus’ NEP is greater than giratina’s
I'm just following the listed stuff.What information are you going to be affecting? The information of it's body which it doesn't have. The information of it's mind which is nonexistent. The information of its soul, also nonexistent. The information of it's concept, again nonexistent. The information of it's dimensions, it's beyond dimensions. What other essential component does Arceus have that Sonic can target the information of?
It's easy to say that it lacks information resistance and so you can affect it's information, but you've also got to explain what exactly the information is about. Information is a metaphysical property that describes something giving it shape, but if their is nothing to describe the shape of then their won't be information to affect.
Eh, they still have 6D AP, plus causality/fate hax that works on both Acausality 2 and 4 and high-godly along with high0godly negation, so I feel that they should at least be #9.removing xenobale characters from Low 1C, their hax layers got downgraded
okay 11th spot for now for themEh, they still have 6D AP, plus causality/fate hax that works on both Acausality 2 and 4 and high-godly along with high0godly negation, so I feel that they should at least be #9.
#10-11 bare minimum, Darkseid gets obliterated by Xenoblade hax-wise.
Btw:okay 11th spot for now for them
Ok, now that 6D Sonic finally got accepted (it still needs to be on the profiles but all that means is adding the 6D blog to the verse page and changing all the 5-D's in the character profiles to 6-D), let's talk Sonic people.
you should probably make a match for thisBtw:
Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share a #11 spot with Xenoblade for now.
You got Solaris, who has to be killed across all of time at once to kill him.
You have Starfall Super Sonic, who has passive cyber corruption, along with a lot of other hax.
You have THE END, who has law/fate hax.
They can't defeat XB people but it goes vice versa, neither can really incap the other.
no match was made and xue inconed makina last timeis Xue Ying above Arceus, Makina and Xenoblade characters because of extreme piercing?
i cant think of any other reason
Then shouldn't Xue be in the same spot as Makina?no match was made and xue inconed makina last time
what spot for sonic? Make a match for itThen shouldn't Xue be in the same spot as Makina?
Also, could you please put Sonic on the Low 1-C list?
anima inconed tohou characters, make a match with saber and dmc guys for 6th spotOnce again, anima gate and dmc characters should be placed in the 5th and 6th spots in 2c, as I've already explained why.
On second thought, for now they should be at #12, since they wallop Darkseid in terms of hax but I'd need to do a Sonic vs XB fight.what spot for sonic? Make a match for it
Yeah, so then place them(Baal and the nameless) beside touhou characters and a stomp match doesn’t need to be made, the outcome is quite obvious: he’s not resisting 7 layers of passive madness hax.anima inconed tohou characters, make a match with saber and dmc guys for 6th spot
If you can only characters that are physically in X tier, why, for example, is HIM here?Tier Low 4-C:
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