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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

Fallen_Angelicx said:
I think he should take #1 on 9-C because of his 2-A ability. If his opponents doesnt exist in infinite amount of timelines, the moment he dies, it's gg's for them. He'll resurrect right after aswell.
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nope 1-3 already have tier 1 hax. Craddle robber has type 5 acausality
 
Nvm not 4th place, i realized craddle belongs there and he has acasual type 5. Could he take danny's place?
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
The continuation of this previous thread here.

Rules
  • Characters only qualify for a tier if they are physically in that tier themselves. Tiers through amps that increases both Attack Potency and Durability also works, and the same applies to tiers via technology.
  • Prep Time is only allowed if the character gets its tier via that.
  • Speed is equalized by default. Spots via speed unequal are valid, but without defeating someone at speed equal, both characters will share a spot.
  • SBA is assumed
  • Two characters from the same verse can't occupy different placements in the same tier (ex. two SCP characters can't occupy the first and second placements in Tier 1-A, they can only share the same placement in that tier)
Tier 0:

1. Characters from Self-Reference ENGINE

2. Characters from World of Darkness

3. Characters from SCP Foundations

4. Characters from Twin Peaks / Cthulhu Mythos

5. The Amaranth

6. God (Unsong)

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 1-A:

1. Characters from SCP Foundations

2. The Leviathan (The Unwritten)

3. Characters from Marvel Comics

4. Characters from The Elder Scrolls

5. Characters from Cthulhu Mythos

6. God (Unsong)

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15..

Tier 1-A

1. Characters from SCP Foundations (SCP-3812 and SCP-682)

2. Characters from Cthulhu Mythos (Hypnos and Yog-Sothoth)

3. The Goddess of The Manifold

4. The Great Reason

5. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

6. MSPA Reader

7. Characters from Ergenverse

8. Gu Chensha

9. Lu Zhiyu (Low Dimensional Game)

10. Gao Chuan

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 1-A:

1. Characters from Twin Peaks

2. Gao Chuan

3. Fang Xiu

4. Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared

5. Characters from Marvel Comics

6. The Downstreamers

7. Ultimate Extermination God

8. Characters from Homestuck (John Egbert and Lord English)

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 1-B:

1. Characters from The Elder Scrolls

2. Wendy (Low Dimensional Games)

3. Characters from Marvel Comics

4. The Doctor

5. Lou Baiyue

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 1-B:

1. Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared

2. Characters from Magi

3. Characters from Instant Death

4. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro ni (Featherine Aurora/Maria Ushiromiya/Beatrice)

5. Characters from Godzilla SP Novelization

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 1-C:

1. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

2. Mother Eater / Characters from Doctor Who

3. Characters from Gurren Lagann (Verse)

4. Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index

5. Sun Wukong (JTTW)

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 1-C:

1. Shallow Vernal

2. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

3. Characters from Digimon

4. Sun Wukong (JTTW)

5: Characters from Nasuverse

6. Ji Ning

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 1-C:

1. Ren Amamiya

2. Gao Chuan

3. Shallow Vernal

4. Meng Hao

5. Characters from Magi

6. Battler Ushiromiya

7. Yang Qi / Characters from Xenoblade (Z, Alpha and Alvis)

8. Characters from Nasuverse

9. Xue Ying

10. Arceus

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 2-A:

1. Caliborn / Gao Chuan

2. Stikua

3. Characters from Sage Monarch

4. Gu Taxian

5. Characters From Puella Magi Verse

6. Characters from Final Fantasy

7. The Player (Wizard 101)

8. Mister Mxyzptlk

9. Characters from Pokémon

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 2-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse

2. Stikua

3. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

4. Sora (Kingdom Hearts)

5. Xue Ying

6. Wei Huo

7. Characters from Pokémon

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 2-C:

1. Characters from Castlevania (Dracula and Soma Cruz)

2. Xuan Fang

3. Characters from Dr. Slump (Arale Norimaki and Gatchan)

4. Oryx, the Taken King

5. Characters from Touhou

6.Kamen Rider Saber

7.Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

8. Neron

9.Dark Surfer

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 2-C:

1. Characters from World of Darkness

2. Characters from Warhammer 40K

3. Characters from Ergenverse

4. Wendy (Low Dimensional Game)

5. Space Ishtar

6. Nier (Granblue Fantasy)

7. D (Vampire Hunter D)

8. Memeovore

9. Characters from Destiny

10. The Player (Wizard 101)

11. Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)

12. Sonic the Hedgehog (Modern)

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 3-A:

1. Characters from Warhammer 40,000 (The Emperor and Horus)

2. Fang Xiu

3. D (Vampire Hunter D)

4. Dmitrii Blinov

5. The Old Man of Wandering Mountain

6. Characters from Magic: The Gathering (The Planeswalker and Kozilek) (Speed Equalized) / Meng Chuan (Speed Unequalized)

7. Characters from Marvel Comics

8.Hoopa (Speed Equalized) / Characters from W.I.T.C.H.

9. Characters from Looney Tunes

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 3-A:

1. SCP-682

2. Fang Xiu

3. Kingprotea

4. Ji Ning

5. Xue Ying

6. D (Vampire Hunter D)

7. Gu Taxian

8. Satan (Bastard!!)

9. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (such as Rimuru Tempest)

10. Kang Han Soo

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 3-B:

1. Avenger (Space Ishtar)

2. Xue Ying

3. Zhong Yue

4. Bai Xiaochun

5. Li Qiye

6. Sephiroth

7. Soul King

8. Supernatural

9. Bender

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 3-C:

1. Chen Jin

2. Avenger (Space Ishtar)

3. Gatchan

4. Dark Schneider

5. Characters from Marvel Comics (Doctor Doom and Odin)

5. Yhwach

6. Characters from Spongebob Squarepants

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 4-A:

1. The Weaver

2. Characters from Warhammer 40k (The Emperor of Mankind and Ynnead)

3. Chen Jin

4. Characters from Granblue Fantasy (Captain and Bahamut) (Speed Equalized) / Sun Wukong (Speed Unequalized)

5. Characters from Dr. Slump (Arale Norimaki and Gatchan)

6. Characters from God of War

7. The Captain (Honkai Impact 3rd)

8. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

9. Ace (Final Fantasy)

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 4-B:

1. The Emperor of Mankind

2. Characters from Doctor Who

3. Characters from Desolate Era

4. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

5. Characters from Grandmist Duology (Linley Baruch and Orloff)

6. Darkseid

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 4-C:

1. Sun Wukong (JTTW)

2. Subhuti

3. Balancer

4. Characters from Ergenverse

5. Characters from Kamen Rider (Ichigo, Nigo, V3, Riderman, X, Amazon, Stronger, Skyrider, Super-1 & ZX)

6. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh!

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 4-C:

1. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

2. Characters from Sage Monarch (Ghost Emperor Yama and Crown Prince)

3. Anos Voldigoad

4. Characters from Devil May Cry (Dante and Beastheads)

5. True Dark Genie / Xu Jingming

6. Li Qiye

7. Woody Woodpecker

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 4-C:

1. Dark Samus

2. Characters from Enter the Gungeon

3. Yang Kai

4. Megaman

5. Characters from Kamen Rider

6. Characters from Godzilla

7. Characters from Dragon Ball

8. HIM

9. Characters from the MCU

10. Characters from Voltron

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 5-A:

1. Xue Ying

2. Cthulhu (Cthulhu Saves the World)

3. Anos Voldigoad

4. Du Tian

5. Kang Han Soo

6. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

7. Characters from Final Fantasy VI

8. Amon (StarCraft)

9.Wang Ling

10. Characters from Marvel Vs Capcom

11.Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy (Matt and Natalie)

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 5-A:

1. SCP-682

2. Nyarlathotep

3. Kelly (Low Dimensional Game)

4. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

5. Characters from BlazBlue (Yuki Termui/Hakumen/Hazama)

6. Xue Ying

7. Kang Han Soo

8. Characters from Ergenverse

9. Characters from Guilty Gear

10. Zeref

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 5-B:

1. Lu Zhiyu

2. Foreigner (MHXX)

3. Ruphas Mafahl (Unequalized Speed) / Ace (Final Fantasy) (Equalized Speed)

4. Doctor Doom

5. Kang Han Soo

6. Skarbrand

7. Arthas Menethil

8. The Batter

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 5-B:

1. Anos Voldigoad

2. Nessie

3. Adam

4. Ji Ning

5. Characters From A Wild Last Boss Appeared (Ruphas Mafahl/Taurus of the Bull)

6. Hajime Nagumo

7. Kusuo Saiki

8. Kamen Rider Kabuto

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 5-C:

1. Characters from Warhammer Fantasy (Archaon, Lord of Change and Be'lakor)

2. Characters from Isekai at Peace (Alice/Fate/Kuromueina)

3. Characters from Final Fantasy XIII

4. Wei Huo

5. Characters from Ergenverse (Wang Lin/Meng Hao)

6. Wei Shi Lindon

7. Iihiko Shishime

8. Statella

9.

10.

Tier High 6-A:

1. Characters from Twin Peaks (The Fireman, MIKE, BOB)

2. Nanashi (Shin Megami Tensei)

3. Lu Zhiyu

4. Isis Remnant

5. Kratos

6. Gu Taxian

7. Characters from Final Fantasy V

8. Gunvolt

9. Kang Han Soo

10. Kamen Rider Zero-One

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 6-A:

1. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

2. D (Vampire Hunter D)

3. Characters from Destiny (Crota, Son of Oryx, Oryx, the Taken King and Savathûn, the Witch Queen)

4. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (Rimuru Tempest/Diablo)

5. Characters from Ergenverse (Song Que/Bai Xiaochun/Wang Lin)

6. Kidou En

7. Kang Han Soo

8. Tendou Harima

9. Naraku

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 6-B:

1. Characters from Warhammer Fantasy (Archaon, Be'lakor and Lord of Change)

2. Stikua

3. D (Vampire Hunter D)

4. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

5. Characters from Destiny

6. Kouki Amanogawa

7. Cthulhu

8. Characters from MCU (Thanos and Doctor Strange Supreme)

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 6-B:

1. Kang Han Soo

2. Hoopa

3. Kars (JORGE JOESTAR)

4. Yomoji Shinsei

5. Characters from Arifureta

6. Spawn

7. Caren Hortensia

8. Po (Paws of Destiny)

9. Nessie

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 6-B:

1. Rick (Instant Death)

2. Characters from BlazBlue (Ragna The Bloodedge/Hazama/Noel Vermillion)

3. Characters from Nasuverse

4. Linley Baruch

5. Characters from Arifureta

6. Characters from Final Fantasy IV (Cecil Harvey and Kain Highwind)

7.

8.

9.

10.


11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 6-C:

1. Characters from Warhammer Fantasy (Lords of Change and Be'lakor)

2. Characters from Nasuverse

3. D (Vampire Hunter D)

4. Neriscyrlas

5. Kamen Rider Ark-Zero

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.


11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 6-C:

1. Characters from Digimon (Eaters/MetalPhantomon)

2. Eanru

3. Anos Voldigoad

4. Kang Han Soo

5. Zero

6. Li Qiye

7. Noah

8. Characters from The Greatest Magicmaster's Retirement Plan (Alus Reigin & Elise)

9. Characters from Super Mario Bros

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 7-A:

1. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! (Yakagi Suimei/Shane Reiji/Hydemary Alzbayne)

2. Avatar of Calamity

3. Noah (Owari no Chronicle)

4. Linley Baruch

5. Han Jee-Han

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.


11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 7-A:

1. Gao Chuan

2. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru! (Clarissa Liger/Felmenia Stingray)

3. Vandalieu

4. Han Jee-Han

5. Characters from MCU (Doctor Strange Supreme and Scarlet Witch)

6. Characters from Ergenverse

7. Johnny Test

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 7-B:

1. Dante (Devil May Cry)

2. Es

3. Characters from Puella Magi Verse (Homura Akemi and Avatar of Calamity)

4. Characters from Under Night In Birth

5. Toujou Karuna

6. Hel

7. SCP-001

8. Badd Virtus

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 7-B:

1. Lu Zhiyu

2. Es

3. Kang Han Soo

4. Theodore Miller

5. Wei Huo

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 7-C:

1. Ragna the Bloodedge

2. Rikuo Nura

3. True Dark Genie

4. Han Jee-Han

5. Femto (Speed Equal) / Fugil Arcadia (Speed Unequal)

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 7-C:

1. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru!

2. Chrysalis (Eternity Girl)

3. Klein Moretti

4. Altair (Re:Creators)

5. Beiloune

6. Oersted

7. Lee Geon

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Low 7-C:

1. Kelly

2. Characters from Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru!

3. Meng Chuan

4. Sacred Eclipse / Cat Boy

5. Henry Stickmin

6. Akuto Sai

7. Satoru Gojo

8. Invader Zim

9. Froggy 2

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 8-A:

1. SCP-5514 / Caliborn

2. Gotrek Gurnisson

3. Fang Xiu

4. Lyliana Zandyke

5. Oracle

6. Danny Phantom

7. Frisk

8. Alex Mercer

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 8-B:

1. Caliborn / The Emperor of Mankind

2. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

3. Characters from Destiny

4. Characters from Lobotomy Corporation

5. Iihiko Shishime

6. Kousuke Endou

7. Shigara Masami

8. Spawn

9. Will Vandom

10. Timmy Turner

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier High 8-C:

1. The Dunwich Horror

2. Demogorgon

3. Characters from Digimon (Grimmon and GranDracmon)

4. Heaven Ascension DIO

5. Garland

6. Koriel Number 12

7. Toujou Karuna

8. Fil Necati

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 8-C:

1. Invisible Spiders

2. Culexus Assassins

3. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

4. D (Vampire Hunter D)

5. Xavier

6. Characters from Shadow Fight

7. Wei Huo

8. Blitz (Devil May Cry)

9. Koriel Number 12

10. Mister Fantastic

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 9-A:

1. SCP-682

2. Mage (Marauder)

3. Es

4. Obsidian

5. Spawn

6. Spades Slick

7. Maxwell

8. Lucifer Morningstar

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 9-B:

1. SCP-682

2. Gilgamesh (The Unwritten)

3. Miyama Kaito

4. MSPA Reader

5. Kinzo Ushiromiya

6. Morghur

7. John Taylor

8. Jill Presto

9. Klein Moretti

10. Hatou Manabu

11. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 9-C:

1. Invisible Spiders

2. Miyama Kaito

3. Little Treasure

4. Lucetta Quetzl / Mimi (World of Horror)

5. Cradle Robber

6. Danny Phantom

7. Scarlet Witch

8. Flumpty Bumpty

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 10-A:

1. Barker Sullivan

2. Mage (Marauder)

3. Gao Chuan

4. Pullman

5. Miyama Kaito

6. Yogiri Takatou

7. Characters from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni

8. Characters from Marvel Comics (Charles Xavier and Invisible Woman)

9. Shinpei Ajiro

10. Tooru

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 10-B:

1. Barker Sullivan

2. Madame Rausch

3. Miyama Kaito

4. Lord Kroak

5. Beatrice

6. Molecule Man

7. Characters from Doki Doki Literature Club! (Monika and Sayori)

8. Griffin

9. Dementia

10. Rinka Shishimai

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 10-C:

1. Lord Kroak

2. Doom of Malan'tai

3. Maria Ushiromiya

4. Culaina (Speed Equalized) / Chess Pieces (Speed Unequalized)

5. SCP-239

6. Sōya Azashiro

7. Floating Eye

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 11-A:

1. Characters from SCP Foundation

2. Gomez (Fez)

3. The Boneless (Doctor Who)

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 11-B:

1. Disembodied Thought

2. D-1

3. Queens of Lineland

4. Sandman (SCP)

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier 11-C:

1. SCP-2747

2. SCP-6747-C

3. Irotsuki

4. Caroline (SCP)

5. Snakebite (SCP)

6. SCP-3143

7. SCP-4028 (Don Quixote)

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Unknown:

1. Kriemhild Gretchen

2. Jessica Sorrow

3. Mimr

4. Lumina

5. Ghost Writer

6.Yue

7.Phantaminum

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.

Tier Varies:

1. SCP-2747

2. Nyarlathotep

3. Characters from Twin Peaks (The Fireman/BOB/The Woodsmen)

4. Oblivion

5. Morghur

6. Characters from W.I.T.C.H. (The Guardians (W.I.T.C.H.))

7. Feedback

8.

9.

10.

11.

12.

13.

14.

15.
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Eseseso said:
Low 1-C: Makina should be tied with Arceus. Darkseid should get the #11 spot, with Nyanlathotep at #12 (she can't affect Darkseid's AE1). Loki is the weakest 6D on this site so he gets #13, while Characters from BlazBlue should get #14 (Infinite Layers of hax go brr) and Kratos gets #15 since PoH goes brr.
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Just like in the Low 1-C section for the non smurf thread, Makina would win against Arceus with speed equalized but Arceus would win with speed unequalized
 
1. Characters from anima gate for number 3 in 2c, specifically the nameless https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Nameless for having instinctive concept type 1 soul erasure death hax, capable of bypassing resistances of at least 10 layers along with baal https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Baal,_The_Gate_of_Hell, who has abilities from various high-tier characters in verse, all being at least 10 layers of magic hax that’s been accepted

2. DMC characters like mundus, dante, and vergil should rank 4th in 2c due to their passive madness type 2 and 3 hax and although there is ongoing debate regarding their layers, 7 has been accepted as of now.

3. DC characters should be ranked above characters from toaru and even gurren Lagann in high 1c reasons being they have mid-high godly regeneration, abstract existence type 1, existence erasure, and concept type 1 manipulation to name a few . They also deserve a spot in 1c(7D) due to high tiers such as lucifer, endless, elaine, and spectre.
 
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Kairos to replace all mentions of Lords of Change
 
Eseseso said:
Low 1-C: Makina should be tied with Arceus. Darkseid should get the #11 spot, with Nyanlathotep at #12 (she can't affect Darkseid's AE1). Loki is the weakest 6D on this site so he gets #13, while Characters from BlazBlue should get #14 (Infinite Layers of hax go brr) and Kratos gets #15 since PoH goes brr.
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darkseid is 5D. 11th spot is too high for him he gets stomped by blazblue and kratos
 
G33kedzinx said:
1. Characters from anima gate for number 3 in 2c, specifically the nameless https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Nameless for having instinctive concept type 1 soul erasure death hax, capable of bypassing resistances of at least 10 layers along with baal https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Baal,_The_Gate_of_Hell, who has abilities from various high-tier characters in verse, all being at least 10 layers of magic hax that’s been accepted

2. DMC characters like mundus, dante, and vergil should rank 4th in 2c due to their passive madness type 2 and 3 hax and although there is ongoing debate regarding their layers, 7 has been accepted as of now.

3. DC characters should be ranked above characters from toaru and even gurren Lagann in high 1c reasons being they have mid-high godly regeneration, abstract existence type 1, existence erasure, and concept type 1 manipulation to name a few . They also deserve a spot in 1c(7D) due to high tiers such as lucifer, endless, elaine, and spectre.
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And anima gate characters actually have 16 layers not 10.
 
Robo432343 said:
anima characters should be on the non smurf list, this is the smurf list
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Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimensional abilities or stats then their dimensional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is practically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimensional being, range and resistances...
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Tbf the 2-C list doesn't have any smurfs in it. Even Castlevania doesn't have smurf hax.
 
G33kedzinx said:
1. Characters from anima gate for number 3 in 2c, specifically the nameless https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Nameless for having instinctive concept type 1 soul erasure death hax, capable of bypassing resistances of at least 10 layers along with baal https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Baal,_The_Gate_of_Hell, who has abilities from various high-tier characters in verse, all being at least 10 layers of magic hax that’s been accepted
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nameless inconed tohou charctaers last time
G33kedzinx said:
2. DMC characters like mundus, dante, and vergil should rank 4th in 2c due to their passive madness type 2 and 3 hax and although there is ongoing debate regarding their layers, 7 has been accepted as of now.
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they are not beating oryx
G33kedzinx said:
3. DC characters should be ranked above characters from toaru and even gurren Lagann in high 1c reasons being they have mid-high godly regeneration, abstract existence type 1, existence erasure, and concept type 1 manipulation to name a few . They also deserve a spot in 1c(7D) due to high tiers such as lucifer, endless, elaine, and spectre.
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dc charcaters are outdated so they are not in the list
 
Robo432343 said:
anima characters should be on the non smurf list, this is the smurf list
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Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimensional abilities or stats then their dimensional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is practically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimensional being, range and resistances...
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I know but is dracula a smurf ? and no one on the 2c list resists 16 layers of magic that’s either instinctive or passive
 
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G33kedzinx said:
He has an unspecified amount of layers, so unless there’s a bare minimum number, I don’t think he’s resisting 7 layers of madness hax
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G33kedzinx said:
No, we shouldn't assume he can resist up to 7 layers just because he has an unspecified amount. 1 layer is acceptable, but not 7.
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Yes, no, Destiny has layers of base farming, I mean they have been fighting each other for years creating layers and layers without stopping, so although the quantity is unknown, there are at least dozens, maybe even hundreds.

That's because the Sword logic is based on overcoming resistance and gaining the qualities of what you kill.
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Yes, no, Destiny has layers of base farming, I mean they have been fighting each other for years creating layers and layers without stopping, so although the quantity is unknown, there are at least dozens, maybe even hundreds.

That's because the Sword logic is based on overcoming resistance and gaining the qualities of what you kill.
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It was infinite layers at one point, but that's not the case now. An unspecified amount of layers is as good as nothing if it's not specified. Try to get it evaluated again to obtain a specific number. If what you said checks out, it shouldn't be hard.
 
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It was infinite layers at one point, but that's not the case now. An unspecified amount of layers is as good as nothing if it's not specified. Try to get it evaluated again to obtain a specific number. If what you said checks out, it shouldn't be hard.
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@Rabbit2002 that doesn’t exactly refute the point that being stronger doesn’t automatically mean layered hax, the feats of affecting people with resistances is needed for layered hax. Haven't I already provided that? Yang Qi's abilities cannot affect Fifth Stage Demolisher unless using more...
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It was already evaluated and accepted, it is simply because they have been struggling for years, there are too many, that is why I say it does not specify the number, however it was easily in the dozens
 
Ok, now that 6D Sonic finally got accepted (it still needs to be on the profiles but all that means is adding the 6D blog to the verse page and changing all the 5-D's in the character profiles to 6-D), let's talk Sonic people.

Right off the bat, he is above everyone from the #11 spot to the #15 spot, especially as he can affect beings with AE1 like Darkseid due to both the NPI of the Super Forms including an AE1 being (Illumina) and due to his Type 1 CM/Type 2 Info.

Also, people like Super Sonic (and especially Starfall Super Sonic) outhax those like Darkseid.

As for #10, this is where things get tricky.

He can't kill or even affect True Arceus due to the latter's NEP and TD, but nothing Arceus has can really harm him due to his resistances, and Sonic has kept up in speed with an omnipotent being before (Solaris) so nothing says he can't do the same with True Form Arceus.

As for Makina (whose abilities sorely lack justifications, dear lord), both seem to stone wall the other, but Sonic blitzes with Speed Unequalized.

You also have people like Solaris, who exists in past, present, and future and must be defeated in all 3 time periods simultaneously.

Thus, Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share the #10 spot with Arceus and Makina.
 
Robo432343 said:
It does tho
He gets his immortality from the source which is 1-B
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Still don't see it on his profile, and I thought that his immortality just came from his God Head.

Oliver_de_jesus said:
Unlike when it is an avatar (where the true Darkside could simply create another Avatar or astral representation), they could theoretically incapacitate its true form for 24 hours, not need to kill him
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This.

And Sonic could definitely incap with stuff like Type 2 Info hax (which Darkseid doesn't resist).
 
Eseseso said:
But he can incap him with stuff like type 2 info manipulation.
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Yes, although honestly, all the inhabitants of TSoG should have Info Hax or AE based on it, since they manipulate their realms that exists beyond the Speed Force Wall(the barrier is not the speed force), as matter is pure information


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This is accepted on the verse cosmology page, however it is not applied in any profile
 
Eseseso said:
As for #10, this is where things get tricky.

He can't kill or even affect True Arceus due to the latter's NEP and TD, but nothing Arceus has can really harm him due to his resistances, and Sonic has kept up in speed with an omnipotent being before (Solaris) so nothing says he can't do the same with True Form Arceus.
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TD only makes him immune to the stuff he transcends i dont see any information stuff in pokemon, and his Nep doesnt cover Information, also what about 7D range?
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As for Makina (whose abilities sorely lack justifications, dear lord), both seem to stone wall the other, but Sonic blitzes with Speed Unequalized.
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7D Bfr?
 
Robo432343 said:
He would resurrect from that due to higher dimensional source bs
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Honestly Darksied just needs to exist and occasionally do his job, but nothing stops him from being incapacitated. Hell, canonically we have an arc in the Post-Crisis where Darksied was incapacitated for weeks, which led to internal wars in his Empire (all caused by my boi Neron)
 
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