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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
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Psykers resist Causality Manipulation lol
Also 40K is a little more cringe then Warhammer Fantasy, so it's okay
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It is just a joke mate
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nope 1-3 already have tier 1 hax. Craddle robber has type 5 acausality
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Ah i see. He should be able to get 4th place tho right? If there's anything I'd need to elaborate to get him there, let me know.
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Nvm not 4th place, i realized craddle belongs there and he has acasual type 5. Could he take danny's place?
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Are these threads just going to continue in placement spots after every thread. First it was top 5, previously it was top 10, and now it's top 15 
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would have to make match first
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Just like in the Low 1-C section for the non smurf thread, Makina would win against Arceus with speed equalized but Arceus would win with speed unequalized
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1. Characters from anima gate for number 3 in 2c, specifically the nameless https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Nameless for having instinctive concept type 1 soul erasure death hax, capable of bypassing resistances of at least 10 layers along with baal https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Baal,_The_Gate_of_Hell, who has abilities from various high-tier characters in verse, all being at least 10 layers of magic hax that’s been accepted
2. DMC characters like mundus, dante, and vergil should rank 4th in 2c due to their passive madness type 2 and 3 hax and although there is ongoing debate regarding their layers, 7 has been accepted as of now.
3. DC characters should be ranked above characters from toaru and even gurren Lagann in high 1c reasons being they have mid-high godly regeneration, abstract existence type 1, existence erasure, and concept type 1 manipulation to name a few . They also deserve a spot in 1c(7D) due to high tiers such as lucifer, endless, elaine, and spectre.
2. DMC characters like mundus, dante, and vergil should rank 4th in 2c due to their passive madness type 2 and 3 hax and although there is ongoing debate regarding their layers, 7 has been accepted as of now.
3. DC characters should be ranked above characters from toaru and even gurren Lagann in high 1c reasons being they have mid-high godly regeneration, abstract existence type 1, existence erasure, and concept type 1 manipulation to name a few . They also deserve a spot in 1c(7D) due to high tiers such as lucifer, endless, elaine, and spectre.
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Kairos Fateweaver
Kairos Fateweaver is the personal vizier of the Chaos God Tzeentch and a powerful Lord of Change. In order for Tzeentch to figure out what was at the heart of the Well of Eternity, a well which sat at the center of the Impossible Fortress and the place from which all of time and space is said to...
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darkseid is 5D. 11th spot is too high for him he gets stomped by blazblue and kratos
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darkseid got upgraded to 6-D, he's not 5-D anymore
Cosmic Armor Superman vs Lucifer
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Thought_Robot vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lucifer_Morningstar_(DC_Comics) SBA Speed Equal
i had to change the match because i was told he was 6-D by staff
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He's 6d now, according to his profile notes.
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And anima gate characters actually have 16 layers not 10.
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anima characters should be on the non smurf list, this is the smurf list
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation
Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimensional abilities or stats then their dimensional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is practically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimensional being, range and resistances...
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Tbf the 2-C list doesn't have any smurfs in it. Even Castlevania doesn't have smurf hax.anima characters should be on the non smurf list, this is the smurf list
Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation
Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimensional abilities or stats then their dimensional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is practically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimensional being, range and resistances...
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nameless inconed tohou charctaers last time
they are not beating oryx
dc charcaters are outdated so they are not in the list
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im pretty sure the xuan fang guy has 1-A time hax
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Honestly, Darkseid's page is pretty up to date.
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The anti monitor, the hands, e.t.c can still get a spot plus the high 1c dc profiles are pretty up to date
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I know but is dracula a smurf ? and no one on the 2c list resists 16 layers of magic that’s either instinctive or passiveanima characters should be on the non smurf list, this is the smurf list
Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation
Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimensional abilities or stats then their dimensional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is practically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimensional being, range and resistances...
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Before they had 16 layers
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He isn’t resisting 7 layers of passive madness hax
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they have 16 layers but it was still inconclusive because junco from touhou has nonduality type 2
also nameless doesn't even have madness hax
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Oh, I see... oh well they can share a spot with them I guess
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he is. Destiny has bullshit hax layers
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He has an unspecified amount of layers, so unless there’s a bare minimum number, I don’t think he’s resisting 7 layers of madness hax
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Bare minimum for it would still be above dmc
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No, we shouldn't assume he can resist up to 7 layers just because he has an unspecified amount. 1 layer is acceptable, but not 7. Anyways, add DC characters to high 1C 3rd spot.
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Yes, no, Destiny has layers of base farming, I mean they have been fighting each other for years creating layers and layers without stopping, so although the quantity is unknown, there are at least dozens, maybe even hundreds.
That's because the Sword logic is based on overcoming resistance and gaining the qualities of what you kill.
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It was infinite layers at one point, but that's not the case now. An unspecified amount of layers is as good as nothing if it's not specified. Try to get it evaluated again to obtain a specific number. If what you said checks out, it shouldn't be hard.
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Hax Layer Evaluation Thread
@Rabbit2002 that doesn’t exactly refute the point that being stronger doesn’t automatically mean layered hax, the feats of affecting people with resistances is needed for layered hax. Haven't I already provided that? Yang Qi's abilities cannot affect Fifth Stage Demolisher unless using more...
It was already evaluated and accepted, it is simply because they have been struggling for years, there are too many, that is why I say it does not specify the number, however it was easily in the dozens
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The layers are unspecified because there are too many
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I'll take your word for it, dozens of layers it is.
Dmc characters shoud be placed below anima gate and touhou characters.
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Ok, now that 6D Sonic finally got accepted (it still needs to be on the profiles but all that means is adding the 6D blog to the verse page and changing all the 5-D's in the character profiles to 6-D), let's talk Sonic people.
Right off the bat, he is above everyone from the #11 spot to the #15 spot, especially as he can affect beings with AE1 like Darkseid due to both the NPI of the Super Forms including an AE1 being (Illumina) and due to his Type 1 CM/Type 2 Info.
Also, people like Super Sonic (and especially Starfall Super Sonic) outhax those like Darkseid.
As for #10, this is where things get tricky.
He can't kill or even affect True Arceus due to the latter's NEP and TD, but nothing Arceus has can really harm him due to his resistances, and Sonic has kept up in speed with an omnipotent being before (Solaris) so nothing says he can't do the same with True Form Arceus.
As for Makina (whose abilities sorely lack justifications, dear lord), both seem to stone wall the other, but Sonic blitzes with Speed Unequalized.
You also have people like Solaris, who exists in past, present, and future and must be defeated in all 3 time periods simultaneously.
Thus, Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share the #10 spot with Arceus and Makina.
Right off the bat, he is above everyone from the #11 spot to the #15 spot, especially as he can affect beings with AE1 like Darkseid due to both the NPI of the Super Forms including an AE1 being (Illumina) and due to his Type 1 CM/Type 2 Info.
Also, people like Super Sonic (and especially Starfall Super Sonic) outhax those like Darkseid.
As for #10, this is where things get tricky.
He can't kill or even affect True Arceus due to the latter's NEP and TD, but nothing Arceus has can really harm him due to his resistances, and Sonic has kept up in speed with an omnipotent being before (Solaris) so nothing says he can't do the same with True Form Arceus.
As for Makina (whose abilities sorely lack justifications, dear lord), both seem to stone wall the other, but Sonic blitzes with Speed Unequalized.
You also have people like Solaris, who exists in past, present, and future and must be defeated in all 3 time periods simultaneously.
Thus, Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share the #10 spot with Arceus and Makina.
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Darkseid has 1-B immortality
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Doesn't indicate that on his profile.
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It does tho
He gets his immortality from the source which is 1-B
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Unlike when it is an avatar (where the true Darkside could simply create another Avatar or astral representation), they could theoretically incapacitate its true form for 24 hours, not need to kill him
