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My point is that if the passive data manipulation saves her ass, then she will eventually become 5-D, if it doesn't, then she just...Regenerates from 5-D plot, unless I am missing something
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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
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Oliver_de_jesus
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His post-Rebirth/Infinite Frontier version will have it, I'm still trying to get into the current DC, which is somewhat difficult
That's why I specifically put "Current continuity" at the end of the summary.
In the current continuity, Neron returned to his position as a Hell Lord and was revealed as an aspect of The Great Darkness alongside Darkseid, Doomsday, and others
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Yeah, in a combat inapplicable way, he literally says it would take years for him to reform
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Hello everyone, glad to see the topic is still active.
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Currently it's 9 btw.
Will probably (and hopefully) end up in the hundreds. 20 as a lowball:v
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Sorta, unless you wanna argue it's a layer of some sort but the "player's" plot manipulation is above the Devourer's control of the plot.
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With unequal speed Im pretty sure Sonic can beat Xenoblade characters with 7D bfr
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That's true actually, Sonic top tiers are immeasurable and thus blitz XB
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Heck since Sonic scales to 1 Trillion x Infinite x Baseline 6D temporal immesurable speed he could probably get even higher
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No, Xenoblade has a sizable hax advantage with equalized speed.
Nevermind their High Godly regen.
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wait so if a character can beat a character higher on the list with unequal speed but loses to someone lower on the list with equal speed, but would also beat them without it, where are they placed
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On second though, I'm not sure Sonic can win even with unequalized speed due to their high-godly regen (which is both conceptual and informational), so they shouldn't be tied with Xenoblade at all.
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gonna assume you meant to say unequal speed
7D BFR tho?
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Its still useable
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Really? Clover told me that Z's second key is the strongest character in the series.sonic would need to defeat this guy if speed is unequalized, not Z
Alpha (Xenoblade)
Alpha is the main antagonist of the DLC expansion Future Redeemed for the game Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Alpha is a fragmented version of Alvis who was reawakened without the influence of Logos and Pneuma. Because of this Alpha became a heartless machine who only desires to fulfil his objective of...vsbattles.fandom.com
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That was before I realized something and split Z into two keys. Not everyone agrees with me on that but it is what it isclover told me something different
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Gao Chuan is now High 1-A smurf, Caliborn dies to him. 2-A.
Gao Chuan should also be above Ren, Low 1-C.
Again Gao Chuan should be above Goddess of Manifold in 1-A.
I don't know where to put him on High 1-A.
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I think Rakih likes Gao Chuan guys... 
Oliver_de_jesus
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I don't think so, if he liked Gao, he wouldn't put him in a position where he couldn't participate in any combatI think Rakih likes Gao Chuan guys...
Rakih_Elyan
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Real
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why do the authors make chinaman so unnecessarily OP
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Dragon ball PL+ mythology is a winning combination. Just ask WoD and SMTwhy do the authors make chinaman so unnecessarily OP
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ctr for it. His last key got upgraded to High 1A but his hax is still accepted as just 1A in the wiki
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He's still a smurf. Unless someone above his final key interferes, Gao Chuan is almost guaranteed to reach High 1-A.
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He mentions this in his profile quote;
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So...How does Gao smurf hax works. Does he just become High 1-A? How long does it take for him to become High 1-A. Also....Could he defeat the marauder?
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Basically, since their High 1-A Keys are beyond time and stuff, they're past selves are automatically guaranteed to become their High 1-A selves, even if other potentially High 1-A Beings try to stop them. In fact, it's only because other potentially High 1-A Beings are trying to stop them, that they don't jump straight past their 1-A Key to High 1-A.
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Also, all their in-verse hax come from their future selves as well.
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So...Caliborn hax but in steroids
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I believe this helps explain it (but with the 1-A part replaced with High 1-A):
Top 10 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Continuation
New Chinaman for a spot in Low 1C
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Characters from DC and granblue fantasy stomp him.
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And why both of them doesn’t even in the list?
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BUMPO
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Morningstar, spectre e.t.c
LazerDim8000
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Kenshiro should definitely be in number 8 5c, not Satella. She can't even interact with him.
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Idk but they should be
