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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
- Thread starter Setsuna_tenma
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Super forms can reach his 7D HDE so they have the range
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When I finish revising Oma Zi-O they're getting slammed into #11.
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That part of his existence is still in existence
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1. Isn't NEP only immune from physical stuff due to incorporeality?
2. If not then Sonic can still hurt him with Info Manip since he lacks aspect 4 of NEP.
Noted.
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The NEP page states that all users must be Incorporeal, which I assume is what protects them from physical blows.
The aspects are stated to just protect them from one thing, such as soul manip, mind manip, concept manip, or info manip
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What information are you going to be affecting? The information of it's body which it doesn't have. The information of it's mind which is nonexistent. The information of its soul, also nonexistent. The information of it's concept, again nonexistent. The information of it's dimensions, it's beyond dimensions. What other essential component does Arceus have that Sonic can target the information of?
It's easy to say that it lacks information resistance and so you can affect it's information, but you've also got to explain what exactly the information is about. Information is a metaphysical property that describes something giving it shape, but if their is nothing to describe the shape of then their won't be information to affect.
It's easy to say that it lacks information resistance and so you can affect it's information, but you've also got to explain what exactly the information is about. Information is a metaphysical property that describes something giving it shape, but if their is nothing to describe the shape of then their won't be information to affect.
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I'm just following the listed stuff.
You need Aspect 4 of NEP to be immune to type 2 info, which Arceus does not appear to have.
Even if Sonic can't harm Arceus, Arceus can't harm him so it's incon. Thus, they share a spot.
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Isnt Information more Fundemental then the Mind/Soul/Body, aswell as Sonic having Abstract layers, wouldnt him affecting Arceus' Information itself do something?
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In 7-B, Es should be moved back up to number 1 since Dante's hax and resistances have been downgraded to 4D while all of Es's are 5D as far as I know.
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removing xenobale characters from Low 1C, their hax layers got downgraded
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Why is EBF listed twice in the High 5-A section? Remove the one at the bottom.
Also, the Warhammer 40K characters are no longer 4-A, so they should be removed.
Also, the Warhammer 40K characters are no longer 4-A, so they should be removed.
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Eh, they still have 6D AP, plus causality/fate hax that works on both Acausality 2 and 4 and high-godly along with high0godly negation, so I feel that they should at least be #9.
#10-11 bare minimum, Darkseid gets obliterated by Xenoblade hax-wise.
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okay 11th spot for now for them
Unqver
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Pmmm should be removed from 2-A. Kosane Kiriha is already low 1-c, while Madoka Kaname (the supreme god), Homura Akemi (the demon opposed to God), Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen (the combination of all cosmic despair), Tart (beyond the concepts of hope and despair). In the grand finale, Kosane Kiriha is overwhelmed by the despair brought by her and her sister, so she is not as good as Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen and Tart
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Btw:
Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share a #11 spot with Xenoblade for now.
You got Solaris, who has to be killed across all of time at once to kill him.
You have Starfall Super Sonic, who has passive cyber corruption, along with a lot of other hax.
You have THE END, who has law/fate hax.
They can't defeat XB people but it goes vice versa, neither can really incap the other.
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no match was made and xue inconed makina last time
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Then shouldn't Xue be in the same spot as Makina?
Also, could you please put Sonic on the Low 1-C list?
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- Thread starter
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what spot for sonic? Make a match for it
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Btw Makina’s layers never went through the hax layer thread so they are unuseable
LazerDim8000
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Once again, anima gate and dmc characters should be placed in the 5th and 6th spots in 2c, as I've already explained why.
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anima inconed tohou characters, make a match with saber and dmc guys for 6th spot
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On second thought, for now they should be at #12, since they wallop Darkseid in terms of hax but I'd need to do a Sonic vs XB fight.
LazerDim8000
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Yeah, so then place them(Baal and the nameless) beside touhou characters and a stomp match doesn’t need to be made, the outcome is quite obvious: he’s not resisting 7 layers of passive madness hax.
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If you can only characters that are physically in X tier, why, for example, is HIM here?
He is physically tier 6.
I don't even know if Megamen would be there since it looks like it's through a combination of attacks.
GlaceonGamez471
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He used to be physically in that tier, looking at his page history. No one bothered to bring it up once he was revised, it seems
It seems it's through a combination of amps that physically amp him, looking at his stats sections, which is perfectly fine for the list:
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Yeah it is
T. Massive megaman fan
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The Creator for a spot in 2-C.
*Is 2nd on the non-smurf list.
*Has access to these and her.
*Has 2-A thought based conceptual/subject reality magic that can has various forms of NPI.
*Is composite classic FF which grants him the P&A of various characters including these guys.
*Automatically starts a fight bloodlusted with passive AD and endless duplication that'll eventually make him omnipresent.
Dark Surfer gets overwhelmed pretty handily with zero defence to CM across a 2-A range plus lacks the necessary NPI to affect The Creator completely. Neron is likely an incon due to The Creator not being able to bypass Neron's type 9 (1-B) immortality but Neron lacks to the means to permanently stop The Creator, so 8th spot can be shared?
*Is 2nd on the non-smurf list.
*Has access to these and her.
*Has 2-A thought based conceptual/subject reality magic that can has various forms of NPI.
*Is composite classic FF which grants him the P&A of various characters including these guys.
*Automatically starts a fight bloodlusted with passive AD and endless duplication that'll eventually make him omnipresent.
Dark Surfer gets overwhelmed pretty handily with zero defence to CM across a 2-A range plus lacks the necessary NPI to affect The Creator completely. Neron is likely an incon due to The Creator not being able to bypass Neron's type 9 (1-B) immortality but Neron lacks to the means to permanently stop The Creator, so 8th spot can be shared?
Oliver_de_jesus
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As the Guy who created Neron and Dark surfer, I agree with this result
Also Neron's type 9 is Low 1-C(6-D), not 1-B
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To how many universes do the Pokemon 2-B´s scales?
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Countless
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Maybe the multiple layered 4-D passives before the plot does anything?
Arale's plot doesn't seem to be offensive at first (like, passively deleting the opponent from the plot or power nulling your opponent using the plot)
I don't know, if you think she can win, then do a vs.
Oliver_de_jesus
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Don't the Epic Battle Fantasy peeps also have passive Plot and Fate at the same level as Arale?
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I mean, it is owarida the moment arale realizes that her usual BS isn't working, and decides to....Become 5-D
Yeah, but arale also has
Also the furry from ergenverse has 1-A hax, but I don't know how it would interact against EBF and DS passive plot manipulation
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Arale has resistance to plot hax which from what I remember is 5-D too (I could be wrong)
At least in the profile of a hero and the devourer, I don't see resistance to plot hax.
Then Arale would resist and put her own plot hax on them.
Unless layers were accepted on them somewhere I haven't seen.
How will she understand anything when she is automatically hit by the various 4-D passives?
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Something something passive data manipulation type 2, and Plot manipulation
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And are they offensive from the start?
How to instantly EE the opponent or powernull him instantly with plot at the beginning of the fight.
Because the way passives act matters (which is why the fight between a version of her and Kratos was inconclusive months ago)
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I thought he got it from this guy due to being an aspect of him, so I just naturally assumed.
