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Where is kiana in tier 4-A @Setsuna_tenma idk anything abt captain verse
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Super forms can reach his 7D HDE so they have the rangeI thought only solaris has 7-D stuff
When I finish revising Oma Zi-O they're getting slammed into #11.Ok, now that 6D Sonic finally got accepted (it still needs to be on the profiles but all that means is adding the 6D blog to the verse page and changing all the 5-D's in the character profiles to 6-D), let's talk Sonic people.
Right off the bat, he is above everyone from the #11 spot to the #15 spot, especially as he can affect beings with AE1 like Darkseid due to both the NPI of the Super Forms including an AE1 being (Illumina) and due to his Type 1 CM/Type 2 Info.
Also, people like Super Sonic (and especially Starfall Super Sonic) outhax those like Darkseid.
As for #10, this is where things get tricky.
He can't kill or even affect True Arceus due to the latter's NEP and TD, but nothing Arceus has can really harm him due to his resistances, and Sonic has kept up in speed with an omnipotent being before (Solaris) so nothing says he can't do the same with True Form Arceus.
As for Makina (whose abilities sorely lack justifications, dear lord), both seem to stone wall the other, but Sonic blitzes with Speed Unequalized.
You also have people like Solaris, who exists in past, present, and future and must be defeated in all 3 time periods simultaneously.
Thus, Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (Main Continuity) (Sonic, Solaris, and The End) should share the #10 spot with Arceus and Makina.
That part of his existence is still in existenceYou need proof sonic can interact with nonexistent beings in the first place
We can’t just assume sonic can interact with NEP beings like arceus when he has no feats of doing so
1. Isn't NEP only immune from physical stuff due to incorporeality?You need proof sonic can interact with nonexistent beings in the first place
We can’t just assume sonic can interact with NEP beings like arceus when he has no feats of doing so
Noted.When I finish revising Oma Zi-O they're getting slammed into #11.
The NEP page states that all users must be Incorporeal, which I assume is what protects them from physical blows.What does this mean
Arceus lacks aspect 4 but sonic doesn’t even have NEP interaction in the first place
Interacting with incorporeality doesn’t mean you can interact with arceus’ level of NEP
Also I’m pretty sure arceus’ NEP is greater than giratina’s
I'm just following the listed stuff.What information are you going to be affecting? The information of it's body which it doesn't have. The information of it's mind which is nonexistent. The information of its soul, also nonexistent. The information of it's concept, again nonexistent. The information of it's dimensions, it's beyond dimensions. What other essential component does Arceus have that Sonic can target the information of?
It's easy to say that it lacks information resistance and so you can affect it's information, but you've also got to explain what exactly the information is about. Information is a metaphysical property that describes something giving it shape, but if their is nothing to describe the shape of then their won't be information to affect.
Eh, they still have 6D AP, plus causality/fate hax that works on both Acausality 2 and 4 and high-godly along with high0godly negation, so I feel that they should at least be #9.removing xenobale characters from Low 1C, their hax layers got downgraded
okay 11th spot for now for themEh, they still have 6D AP, plus causality/fate hax that works on both Acausality 2 and 4 and high-godly along with high0godly negation, so I feel that they should at least be #9.
#10-11 bare minimum, Darkseid gets obliterated by Xenoblade hax-wise.
Btw:okay 11th spot for now for them
Ok, now that 6D Sonic finally got accepted (it still needs to be on the profiles but all that means is adding the 6D blog to the verse page and changing all the 5-D's in the character profiles to 6-D), let's talk Sonic people.
no match was made and xue inconed makina last timeis Xue Ying above Arceus, Makina and Xenoblade characters because of extreme piercing?
i cant think of any other reason
Then shouldn't Xue be in the same spot as Makina?no match was made and xue inconed makina last time
what spot for sonic? Make a match for itThen shouldn't Xue be in the same spot as Makina?
Also, could you please put Sonic on the Low 1-C list?
anima inconed tohou characters, make a match with saber and dmc guys for 6th spotOnce again, anima gate and dmc characters should be placed in the 5th and 6th spots in 2c, as I've already explained why.
On second thought, for now they should be at #12, since they wallop Darkseid in terms of hax but I'd need to do a Sonic vs XB fight.what spot for sonic? Make a match for it
Yeah, so then place them(Baal and the nameless) beside touhou characters and a stomp match doesn’t need to be made, the outcome is quite obvious: he’s not resisting 7 layers of passive madness hax.anima inconed tohou characters, make a match with saber and dmc guys for 6th spot
If you can only characters that are physically in X tier, why, for example, is HIM here?Tier Low 4-C:
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He used to be physically in that tier, looking at his page history. No one bothered to bring it up once he was revised, it seemsIf you can only characters that are physically in X tier, why, for example, is HIM here?
It seems it's through a combination of amps that physically amp him, looking at his stats sections, which is perfectly fine for the list:I don't even know if Megamen would be there since it looks like it's through a combination of attacks.
Characters only qualify for a tier if they are physically in that tier themselves. Tiers through amps that increases both Attack Potency and Durability also works, and the same applies to tiers via technology.
Yeah it isIt seems it's through a combination of amps that physically amp him, looking at his stats sections, which is perfectly fine for the list:
As the Guy who created Neron and Dark surfer, I agree with this resultDark Surfer gets overwhelmed pretty handily with zero defence to CM across a 2-A range plus lacks the necessary NPI to affect The Creator completely. Neron is likely an incon due to The Creator not being able to bypass Neron's type 9 (1-B) immortality but Neron lacks to the means to permanently stop The Creator, so 8th spot can be shared?
You need to prove that your NPE also applies to plot...I thinkinb4. Muh NPE
CountlessTo how many universes do the Pokemon 2-B´s scales?
Maybe the multiple layered 4-D passives before the plot does anything?Charactes from doctor slump have 5-D plot, why aren't they able to defeat castlevania characters?
I mean, it is owarida the moment arale realizes that her usual BS isn't working, and decides to....Become 5-DMaybe the multiple layered 4-D passives before the plot does anything?
Arale's plot doesn't seem to be offensive at first (like, passively deleting the opponent from the plot or power nulling your opponent using the plot)
I don't know, if you think she can win, then do a vs.
Yeah, but arale also hasDon't the Epic Battle Fantasy peeps also have passive Plot and Fate at the same level as Arale?
Also the furry from ergenverse has 1-A hax, but I don't know how it would interact against EBF and DS passive plot manipulationPassive DATA MANIPULATION TYPE 2
HIgh godly regeneration
More AP
And the ability to go 5-D
Arale has resistance to plot hax which from what I remember is 5-D too (I could be wrong)Don't the Epic Battle Fantasy peeps also have passive Plot and Fate at the same level as Arale?
How will she understand anything when she is automatically hit by the various 4-D passives?I mean, it is owarida the moment arale realizes that her usual BS isn't working, and decides to....Become 5-D
Something something passive data manipulation type 2, and Plot manipulationHow will she understand anything when she is automatically hit by the various 4-D passives?
And are they offensive from the start?Something something passive data manipulation type 2, and Plot manipulation
I thought he got it from this guy due to being an aspect of him, so I just naturally assumed.As the Guy who created Neron and Dark surfer, I agree with this result
Also Neron's type 9 is Low 1-C(6-D), not 1-B