DEATH BATTLE! Fighting Animation Discussion Thread

[Diamond_Drone]

I can’t find anything for Tracer’s AP without Pulse Bomb. Maybe I can just scale it to her dura and put a higher with Pulse Bomb.

I guess so, though doesn't Tracer have some physical feats harming Scout in that episode? Either way, what you said is fine.

And what are you trying to say attack speed should be replaced with?

Aren't they very futuristic pistols? Some modern pistol should work fine and maybe there's a fitting one here?

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I can’t find anything for Tracer’s AP without Pulse Bomb. Maybe I can just scale it to her dura and put a higher with Pulse Bomb. And what are you trying to say attack speed should be replaced with?

Her base AP should just scale to Scout's base AP, which is 0.009 Tons of TnT iirc. I don't see why it wouldn't

 

[MintyBoi1]

Think I fixed those problems, just need to add some more links and I can upload

 

[MintyBoi1]

I’ll just drop this if anyone wants to calc it. Sora, Pit, Natsu, and Ace would benefit from LS calcs

 

[MintyBoi1]

Tracer is up, I’m just gonna request someone calc Naruto vs Ichigo because I like my ninja. You have Ichigo deflecting kunai at the start of the fight, Naruto outrunning Ichigo while dodging Getsuga Tensho (19:54), Ichigo blasting through trees (20:13), Bijuu Naruto cratering Ichigo (20:28), This whole scene with Hollow Mask Ichigo combating Naruto’s clones and moving quick enough to make afterimages (20:48), Kurama cratering Ichigo (21:29), Kurama blocking Ichigo’s Mugetsu which made a huge crater (21:53), and Naruto nuking/vaporizing Ichigo (22:13)

 

[MintyBoi1]

Carnage sandbox, I’m a bit unsure of his AP since I can’t tell if the Lucy he cut would be considered “at her peak”, but everything else is good. Also think Lucy’s IQ should be downgraded to Average since she doesn’t show any cognitive ability above the norm. Care to help me out here @Flowerguy2?

 

[MintyBoi1]

Carnage is up. Also starting to think Lucy should only be High 8-C rather than having two tiers of power on her page as she tore apart Carnage at the beginning of the fight who took an attack from an angered Lucy without splattering and also took many cuts to fall apart in certain instances

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Carnage is up. Also starting to think Lucy should only be High 8-C rather than having two tiers of power on her page as she tore apart Carnage at the beginning of the fight who took an attack from an angered Lucy without splattering and also took many cuts to fall apart in certain instances

Carnage should only scale to her Builing level attacks as her large building level value comes from her using all 6 vectors at once. When she did that, she vaporized Carnage. But when she only used 1 or 2, he was fine

So Carnage would be 8-C at least in durability. AP I'm really not sure, but I think he'd scale

 

[MintyBoi1]

Carnage should only scale to her Builing level attacks as her large building level value comes from her using all 6 vectors at once. When she did that, she vaporized Carnage. But when she only used 1 or 2, he was fine

So Carnage would be 8-C at least in durability. AP I'm really not sure, but I think he'd scale

Looking at the animation, it looks like Lucy is using more than just 2 at a time at points like 14:45 and 14:50, and I don’t think it’s implied by the animation or anything else the amount of arms she’s using really dictates her power. It’s just that she upped her vectors’ frequency enough to make an explosion. I think she could be High 8-C, higher when enraged like her actual vs page

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Looking at the animation, it looks like Lucy is using more than just 2 at a time at points like 14:45 and 14:50, and I don’t think it’s implied by the animation or anything else the amount of arms she’s using really dictates her power. It’s just that she upped her frequency enough to make an explosion. I think she could be High 8-C, higher when enraged like her actual vs page

Yeah, I guess downscaling her base attacks from her High 8-C calc and giving Carnage like a "At Most High 8-C" tiering would be best, as Carnage is very obviously weaker than Lucy and gets ripped apart by her pretty frequently in the animation, but can still tank some attacks and harm her as well

 

[MintyBoi1]

Yeah, I do agree he’s for sure weaker given how swiftly Lucy was able to beat him down and her not melting. I can make the changes for both

Also think Lucy’s IQ should be downgraded to Average since she doesn’t show any cognitive ability above the norm.

Also, what do you think of this?

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Also, what do you think of this?

I'm fine with that

 

[koopa3144]

So I made a blog for Reverse-Flash, do you guys think it's good enough to post?

 

[MintyBoi1]

You forgot to add his tier and left standard tactics as just the description and intelligence as Goku Black’s justifications. The other things look fine, though there’s some grammar errors and maybe his speed can just be scaled to Flash and Quicksilver with Immeasurable travel speed as he was still able to be hit by Goku Black who’s shown far slower than his running speed. Also, you could add his aura to abilities

 

[koopa3144]

though maybe his speed can just be scaled to Flash and Quicksilver with Immeasurable travel speed as he was still able to be hit by Goku Black who’s shown far slower than his running speed

Fair, although Rosé Black was able to react to RF looping through the timestream to hit him so I'd say he should be comparable to RF's Immeasurable travel speed.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Makes sense in Rose Form, he was even able to grab and choke RF. Also I think you could make a separate tabber with the hand drawn Reverse Flash and put his second quote there. His smug face is essential

 

[Ednaxel2]

So I made a blog for Reverse-Flash, do you guys think it's good enough to post?

Just put range in bold and we good. Idk what I could add on

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I've been trying, but they linger on the destruction for like, 0.2 seconds so its hard to accurately pixel scale anything

Definitely Tier 8 Though

Y'all, I think I got a calc for Iron Man vs Lex Luthor of Tony sliding Lex Luthor up the side of a skyscraper. The calc is very rudimentary but it should put the Hulkbuster & Lex Luthor into 8-C or so. When I first did it I got 0.28 Tons of TnT, though I might get a higher result after properly pixel scaling

 

[Ednaxel2]

I updated the character list on the verse page

DEATH BATTLE!

Death Battle (stylized as DEATH BATTLE!) is a web series created by Ben Singer. The show pits two or more fictional characters from different medias in a simulated battle to the death. The characters are analyzed with their respective powers, strengths, and weaknesses to determine a winner. The...

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[ThePrimalHunter]

Y'all, I think I got a calc for Iron Man vs Lex Luthor of Tony sliding Lex Luthor up the side of a skyscraper. The calc is very rudimentary but it should put the Hulkbuster & Lex Luthor into 8-C or so. When I first did it I got 0.28 Tons of TnT, though I might get a higher result after properly pixel scaling

It's Done. It's 1.52 Tons of TnT, or Building level+

So here's what Tony's scaling would be for Iron Man vs Lex Luthor:

9-A in standard armor (Could destroy a car with a single missile & tank explosions of this level), 8-C via Hulkbuster (Could do the above calculated feat as well as compete with Lex's suit and threw him through a bridge), far higher via Endo-Sym armor (Casually stomped and destroyed Lex's warsuit as well as vaporized Lex)

Class 5 LS in standard armor (Could lift and throw a car), Class M via Hulkbuster (Scalable to Lex's Warsuit who could crush the standard armors foot, which should be comparable to this calc), far higher via Endo-Sym armor

All should be Subsonic scaling to the Hulkbuster, and Tony has obvious Extraordinary Genius intelligence for inventing all of the armors & the advanced Jarvis AI

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Currently working on an Iron Man Sandbox. Will update once it's done & ready to be reviewed

 

[Flowerguy2]

9-A in standard armor (Could destroy a car with a single missile

If you are talking about the shot where one of Iron Man's missiles hits a white car during his fight in his standard armor. He actually only fired two missiles at the car, and it DIDN'T really destroy it per-say... more like destroys big chucks of it completely as upon rewatching it.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

IRON MAN SANDBOX YEAHHHH!

Any thoughts? Corrections? Opponents you want to throw them against?

 

[MintyBoi1]

I updated the character list on the verse page

DEATH BATTLE!

Death Battle (stylized as DEATH BATTLE!) is a web series created by Ben Singer. The show pits two or more fictional characters from different medias in a simulated battle to the death. The characters are analyzed with their respective powers, strengths, and weaknesses to determine a winner. The...

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I kinda liked it better with how they were listed in one place, it just flows better plus I’d argue the fighters are also main characters

IRON MAN SANDBOX YEAHHHH!

Any thoughts? Corrections? Opponents you want to throw them against?

Striking strength doesn’t go by class anymore, it’s level now. And range and stamina should be bolded. Looks good though.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Any thoughts? Corrections? Opponents you want to throw them against?

Like I said before, Iron Man's Car destroying feat didn't OUTRIGHT destroyed the car, only blowing off chucks of it and it took two missiles, not a single one.

Also gonna pitted him against Batman VS Spider-Man's Batman because rematch lol

 

[Ednaxel2]

I kinda liked it better with how they were listed in one place, it just flows better plus I’d argue the fighters are also main characters

You can always re-edit it to how it was before or smth else, this is a free country editing site after all

 

[MintyBoi1]

Yeah true

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Like I said before, Iron Man's Car destroying feat didn't OUTRIGHT destroyed the car, only blowing off chucks of it and it took two missiles, not a single one.

Also gonna pitted him against Batman VS Spider-Man's Batman because rematch lol

iirc there was another scene where Lex Luthor shoots out a beam of kryptonite and blows up a few cars, which Tony could tank, so I think he scales to Car destruction either way. And even just eyeballing it, some of those explosions are definetly in the 9-B+ - 9-A range

 

[Ednaxel2]

Like I said before, Iron Man's Car destroying feat didn't OUTRIGHT destroyed the car, only blowing off chucks of it and it took two missiles, not a single one.

Chunks blowing off of something can actually get a higher value than just plainly destroying it, like Piccolo destroying the moon in the anime being large planet level due to chunks of the moon flying at such high speeds

This isn't me saying that the feat is tens of times into uhh...car level? Just that if calced the results could be much higher than anticipated

 

[MintyBoi1]

Made Felicia a quick profile

 

[Ednaxel2]

Made Felicia a quick profile

Pretty cool, should all the profiles on the verse page be centered, or how it was before

 

[MintyBoi1]

Looks better left to right imo, but it’s all the same anyways

 

[Ednaxel2]

Looks better left to right imo, but it’s all the same anyways

Done

 

[Flowerguy2]

Chunks blowing off of something can actually get a higher value than just plainly destroying it, like Piccolo destroying the moon in the anime being large planet level due to chunks of the moon flying at such high speeds

This is different than that, Piccolo's moon destroying feat requires KE to results in Large Planet level, Iron Man's Car feat... doesn't have that, the pieces were more so being fragmented.

Made Felicia a quick profile

Felicia's Sand Splash seems more like Vibration Manipulation than Ki/Energy Manipulation, and this was done ON wood as a battleground, so I don't see how Felicia could kick sand when there isn't any around. But the profile looks good.

I'm still iffy on this whole "Using the original source to explained their [The Combatants] abilities" stuff, but that's another story.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Felicia's Sand Splash seems more like Vibration Manipulation than Ki/Energy Manipulation, and this was done ON wood as a battleground, so I don't see how Felicia could kick sand when there isn't any around. But the profile looks good.

She can do it without sand around. As for the ki, the sand sparks blue which indicates it’s there.

 

[MintyBoi1]

Natsu vs Carnage

 

[Ednaxel2]

This is different than that, Piccolo's moon destroying feat requires KE to results in Large Planet level, Iron Man's Car feat... doesn't have that, the pieces were more so being fragmented.

There's another feat where Tony throws the Bat mobile and it explodes on impact, should be easy to calculate

 

[koopa3144]

I posted Reverse-Flash's profile!

Reverse-Flash (DEATH BATTLE!)

Professor Eobard "Zoom" Thawne, also known as the Reverse-Flash, is a supervillain from DC Comics. He appeared in the 149th episode of Death Battle, Goku Black VS Reverse-Flash, where he fought against Goku Black from the Dragon Ball series. Tier: 4-B Name: Reverse-Flash, Eobard "Zoom" Thawne...

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[MintyBoi1]

I posted Reverse-Flash's profile!

Reverse-Flash (DEATH BATTLE!)

Professor Eobard "Zoom" Thawne, also known as the Reverse-Flash, is a supervillain from DC Comics. He appeared in the 149th episode of Death Battle, Goku Black VS Reverse-Flash, where he fought against Goku Black from the Dragon Ball series. Tier: 4-B Name: Reverse-Flash, Eobard "Zoom" Thawne...

fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com

Looks nice, I added a few things. Though I still think it’s better to scale RF’s combat speed to Flash

 

[Ednaxel2]

I posted Reverse-Flash's profile!

Reverse-Flash (DEATH BATTLE!)

Professor Eobard "Zoom" Thawne, also known as the Reverse-Flash, is a supervillain from DC Comics. He appeared in the 149th episode of Death Battle, Goku Black VS Reverse-Flash, where he fought against Goku Black from the Dragon Ball series. Tier: 4-B Name: Reverse-Flash, Eobard "Zoom" Thawne...

fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com

Can you put the meme in a gallery section?