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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread

Not fair for her or Dante?
Who do u think?
 
Been playing POC quite a bit, on chapter 12


-On the profile avatar selector there's a mention about Endless Judgement Vergil (dmc5 era due to his coat and doppelgangers) transcending the bounds of dimensions, depending on how you read it.


-Hellfilth a raid boss, fights you in her domain which has a starry sky, she is stated to be wandering beyond time and space, and to be the embodiment of fear and source of all nightmares in her description from the strategy tab.
In her domain she has a nightmare version of Carus (Griffon look a like, stated to be created by mundus, by an NPC in the bar, applies to the OG Carus only) and Nightmare Caliber (?)



-Lady fights various DMC fodder throughout her stages and the following bosses listed in her chapters, Minotaur, Nevan and I believe Carus and Frost Phantom In her stages. Carus description in the strategy tab says that his relentless bombardment can turn the busiest cities into ashes.


-Common level demon cards are said to turn people insane in the description from the random common card chest.


-Purgatory confuses me as its called a virtual realm that this family seals demons in, the virtual realm name dropping comes up multiple times in the sub menus too. Purgatory itself has a bunch of items that give the devil hunters stuff like revives, 500% attack up and other attack and defence buffs. Purgatory also seems to be a void somehow by the map and title description.
https://imgur.com/Nyw06gh
https://imgur.com/xsSDSCC
https://imgur.com/XwcG4V5
https://imgur.com/MdLy2Su
https://imgur.com/Ut0S0IO

-The hunter/weapon vault breakers gives you access to the gacha, the gacha has lore behind it saying that the vault breakers are Lord Chaos' manifestation of power allowing Dante and the others to shatter the vault (gacha) and summon weapons and hunters. Stated in the breakers description.
https://imgur.com/Hdo908M
https://imgur.com/YPE8F00

-Dantes Fist of Salvation skin has a statement in the gallery that says the skin evolves due to Dante's extreme speeds and use of fire, becoming heat resistant, the coat logo pulses with red energy.
-Royal guard Dante's skin says the crimson was modified to being added in his skin, which is said to be the embodiment of despair to the heart of demons, the shirt and jacket pulse red energy.
https://imgur.com/8YyY2xL
https://imgur.com/38Kplc9

-Phantom's description in the strategy guide says he has an exoskeleton that offers physical resilience and magical protection and that he is impervious to harm.
https://imgur.com/cB69YNm

-The Unworldy spectre, an item that strengths your weapon is stated to be a demon from the outer dimension with tremendous power in the description.
https://imgur.com/0UaEXFU
 
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Been playing POC quite a bit, on chapter 12


-On the profile avatar selector there's a mention about Endless Judgement Vergil (dmc5 era due to his coat and doppelgangers) transcending the bounds of dimensions, depending on how you read it.


-Hellfilth a raid boss, fights you in her domain which has a starry sky, she is stated to be wandering beyond time and space, and to be the embodiment of fear and source of all nightmares in her description from the strategy tab.
In her domain she has a nightmare version of Carus (Griffon look a like, stated to be created by mundus, by an NPC in the bar, applies to the OG Carus only) and Nightmare Caliber (?)



-Lady fights various DMC fodder throughout her stages and the following bosses listed in her chapters, Minotaur, Nevan and I believe Carus and Frost Phantom In her stages. Carus description in the strategy tab says that his relentless bombardment can turn the busiest cities into ashes.


-Common level demon cards are said to turn people insane in the description from the random common card chest.


-Purgatory confuses me as its called a virtual realm that this family seals demons in, the virtual realm name dropping comes up multiple times in the sub menus too. Purgatory itself has a bunch of items that give the devil hunters stuff like revives, 500% attack up and other attack and defence buffs. Purgatory also seems to be a void somehow by the map and title description.
https://imgur.com/Nyw06gh
https://imgur.com/xsSDSCC
https://imgur.com/XwcG4V5
https://imgur.com/MdLy2Su
https://imgur.com/Ut0S0IO

-The hunter/weapon vault breakers gives you access to the gacha, the gacha has lore behind it saying that the vault breakers are Lord Chaos' manifestation of power allowing Dante and the others to shatter the vault (gacha) and summon weapons and hunters. Stated in the breakers description.
https://imgur.com/Hdo908M
https://imgur.com/YPE8F00

-Dantes Fist of Salvation skin has a statement in the gallery that says the skin evolves due to Dante's extreme speeds and use of fire, becoming heat resistant, the coat logo pulses with red energy.
-Royal guard Dante's skin says the crimson was modified to being added in his skin, which is said to be the embodiment of despair to the heart of demons, the shirt and jacket pulse red energy.
https://imgur.com/8YyY2xL
https://imgur.com/38Kplc9

-Phantom's description in the strategy guide says he has an exoskeleton that offers physical resilience and magical protection and that he is impervious to harm.
https://imgur.com/cB69YNm

-The Unworldy spectre, an item that strengths your weapon is stated to be a demon from the outer dimension with tremendous power in the description.
https://imgur.com/0UaEXFU

Well i was preserving it for later use but oh well.

In any case, Helfilth's dimensions can potentially be considered L1C given the context that Lady said that she was "wandering" in a space. Said space is stated to be "beyond" your usual time and space.

Also Lord Chaos said that Humans possessed some of its power before which may be a reference to Primordial Universe.

Oh and Vergil's statement may just be brushed off as in reference to his Yamato severing the bounds of dimensions so not really usable unfortunately.
 
Well i was preserving it for later use but oh well.

In any case, Helfilth's dimensions can potentially be considered L1C given the context that Lady said that she was "wandering" in a space. Said space is stated to be "beyond" your usual time and space.

Also Lord Chaos said that Humans possessed some of its power before which may be a reference to Primordial Universe.

Oh and Vergil's statement may just be brushed off as in reference to his Yamato severing the bounds of dimensions so not really usable unfortunately.
Yeah I'd like the DMC lot to potentially have more substantial summoning capabilities with the vault stuff.

So in regards to Purgatory, I'm new and don't really have a grasp on what constitutes what on this site, especially in verses that are apparently virtual, what are we looking at with Purgatory here, got void, got virtual as it seems, humans/hunters can interact with it and various multiplier buffs/items it gives.
 
Yeah I'd like the DMC lot to potentially have more substantial summoning capabilities with the vault stuff.

So in regards to Purgatory, I'm new and don't really have a grasp on what constitutes what on this site, especially in verses that are apparently virtual, what are we looking at with Purgatory here, got void, got virtual as it seems, humans/hunters can interact with it and various multiplier buffs/items it gives.
I guess it's similar to GoW's Valhalla
 
Can Argosax have nonduality type3? Its written like this "He is everything and nothing. Hunters, surpass your father and destroy him forever."
In english version, no such a thing exist.

This is Nonduality Type 1 by itself but with some context Argosax could be Type 2
 
This is Nonduality Type 1 by itself but with some context Argosax could be Type 2
Yeah I found that also fits NEP type 2. But how do you explain transcend everything and nothing for type 2.
If this thing passed through, they will be OP.
 
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Yeah I found that also fits NEP type 2. But how do you explain transcend everything and nothing for type 2.
If this thing passed through, they will be broken.
Idk about NEP, since Argosax doesn't display any qualities for that, he clearly has some form of intangible body but thats it. The fact that his adrogyny is alchemy based when in alchemy adrogyny embodies basically all dualities heavily suggests Type 2 but we need to make a CRT for it.
 
that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence fits everything and nothing, right?
Sort of, but the character should still possess at least non existent body, while Argosax is shown to have a pretty much existing body, although his intagibility and the fact that his Despair Embodied form is refered as true "form" with "" could suggest NEP but idk.
Can I add this scan into here? Or should we make a CRT for this? cuz nonduality would be controversal.
This thing needs its own CRT tbh
 
I had to translate it since it was initially in spanish but here it is.
In my wiki there is no Nonduality Aspect 1, only Aspect 2. So I kind of discarded it since demons didn't show any Qualitive Superiority toward the Duality of the World, but I dunno, maybe you guys will find something idk do what you want.
DMC has some very interesting things, I didn't know...
 
I had to translate it since it was initially in spanish but here it is.
In my wiki there is no Nonduality Aspect 1, only Aspect 2. So I kind of discarded it since demons didn't show any Qualitive Superiority toward the Duality of the World, but I dunno, maybe you guys will find something idk do what you want.
Exactly the arguments and scans I wanted to use in future lol
This should qualify for Nonduality Aspect 2 tbh since this dual system is akin to Yin Yang and encompasses entire level of reality, QS is not needed for Aspect 2, only for Transduality
 
Exactly the arguments and scans I wanted to use in future lol
This should qualify for Nonduality Aspect 2 tbh since this dual system is akin to Yin Yang and encompasses entire level of reality, QS is not needed for Aspect 2, only for Transduality
Maybe?

BTW I stopped posting and doing stuff for a while cuz I was writing a story, now maybe you guys could check it out and see if it's good or nah.
 
I had to translate it since it was initially in spanish but here it is.
In my wiki there is no Nonduality Aspect 1, only Aspect 2. So I kind of discarded it since demons didn't show any Qualitive Superiority toward the Duality of the World, but I dunno, maybe you guys will find something idk do what you want.
Thats a neat thing. Thanks.
 
Pay with her blood actually, which we gonna squeeze with our bare hands till we get every drop of it and use it in the ritual in order to revive our fallen comrade from death.
I realise this Wiki has something of an outlandish silliness culture due to being a forum that overanalyses outlandish fiction, but come on, let's not make weird jokes like this.
 
For the love of God, each boss takes some time to kill him, the game forcing us to buy items or improvements to get through

Time in the random demons
Time on demon bosses

Is anyone else getting angry at PoC?
 
Skill issue
Is struggling to win competitive Pokémon battles in Gen 4 Ubers while forced to use Raticate, Beedrill and Pidgeot a skill issue, or a balancing issue?

Those three Pokémon would get whomped by Pokémon like Salamence and Tyranitar in Gen 4 OU, never mind Gen 4 Ubers, the home of Swords Dance Arceus, and Calm Mind sets from the likes of Kyogre and Mewtwo, which can only be held back defensively by juggernauts like Lugia and Giratina. Skill might not be the problem, if the balancing has forced you to work with tools ill-suited for the job.

In short, maybe PoC has balancing issues. Like using magic or two-handed weapons in Skyrim. It wouldn't be the first thing the developers did wrong, and developers aren't above making it almost impossible unless you pay to win.
 
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Is struggling to win competitive Pokémon battles in Gen 4 Ubers while forced to use Raticate, Beedrill and Pidgeot a skill issue, or a balancing issue?

Those three Pokémon would get whomped by Pokémon like Salamence and Tyranitar in Gen 4 OU, never mind Gen 4 Ubers, the home of Swords Dance Arceus, and Calm Mind sets from the likes of Kyogre and Mewtwo, which can only be held back defensively by juggernauts like Lugia and Giratina. Skill might not be the problem, if the balancing has forced you to work with tools ill-suited for the job.

In short, maybe PoC has balancing issues. Like using magic or two-handed weapons in Skyrim. It wouldn't be the first thing the developers did wrong, and developers aren't above making it almost impossible unless you pay to win.
Nah you are right, i was trying to be funny, since many people tell me skill issue when it happen to me, so i want to see how it feel say it
 
Nah you are right, i was trying to be funny, since many people tell me skill issue when it happen to me, so i want to see how it feel say it
Fair enough. I got the impression you weren't fully serious in context. In all honesty, we should all try to be better than the people who unironically behave like that. Parts of the Dark Souls fandom have become infamous for coining the term "get good" or "git gud" as they used to spell it, whenever someone asked how to do something, and it's genuinely very toxic behaviour.
 
For the love of God, each boss takes some time to kill him, the game forcing us to buy items or improvements to get through

Time in the random demons
Time on demon bosses

Is anyone else getting angry at PoC?
Yeah the Cerburus story boss fight was pretty hard, I had to be a few levels above him to even get past that, and that was with Endless Vergil.

Also didn't notice that we will be getting characters that use light and dark based elements as seen at the bottom.

I know we are getting Count Thunder Vergil, V and possibly Trish, but I don't think the former two are those types looking at their gameplay.
 
Yeah the Cerburus story boss fight was pretty hard, I had to be a few levels above him to even get past that, and that was with Endless Vergil.

Also didn't notice that we will be getting characters that use light and dark based elements as seen at the bottom.

I know we are getting Count Thunder Vergil, V and possibly Trish, but I don't think the former two are those types looking at their gameplay.

I think they could take the time to make it easier for us
 
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