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[Benimōru]

also i asked Reiner

Reiner says that a part of the arguments he used in the previous one are no longer valid according to DT's draft.

As such, I don't have any justification for Universal Timeline to qualify, so should be back to possibly 2-A (later on in another crt maybe after the and in case standard changed to contrary to current one). I'll think about it later on.

This is what you applied as accepted and what the OP later pointed out as wrong. You have done a very right thing indeed.

Also, what he wants to have re-approved in the second revision is what was accepted before the standards changed, and it needs to be reviewed again after the standards. You can't just apply it to the profile. If this was going to be applied, there was no need to even open the 2nd revision. Which you guys have gone and opened a 2nd revision to get it approved again.

Anyways, I won't answer any longer.

 

[Omegabronic]

and until said revision happened the accepted information is what is currently accepted, Reiner said that in his thread, but he also said that he was looking for clarification in the same thread that could potentially make the standards stay the same

however, regardless of his intention, the thread was never accepted by any staff, hence no conclusion came out of it, so the accepted information prevails for now, hence why i applied it



This will be my last response for now, as i absolutely do not want to go back and forth in the Report thread as i am pretty sure that is not allowed, if you could do the same i would be thankful, all we need to do for now is wait for the staff to evaluate the situation, we answering each other and frankly repeat ourselves doesn't help

 

[NikHelton]

Reporting user @NikHelton for implementing unaccepted calculations onto profiles.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/kengan-ashura-speed-downgrade.161017/

They also made a series of unsolicited changes to Kengenverse profiles two years ago and no one noticed. All of them were changes to statistics without a linked CRT.

Nikaido Ren

Nikaido Ren, also known as The Watchman, is the captain of the Heavenly Wolves, a Chinese mercenary group and currently one of Katahara Metsudo's Bodyguards. He represented Byakuya News during the Kengan Annihilation Tournament, after stealing the affiliated fighter position under Toyo Electric...

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Kiozan Takeru

Kiozan Takeru, formerly known as The Brawler of the Sumo Ring, is a professional jūryō sumo wrestler and an affiliated fighter within the Kengan matches. He represented Magatanien during the Kengan Annihilation Tournament. He had a terrible reputation for always getting into fights, being...

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Those were simply a fraction of the edits.

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Here's a log of it, scroll to the bottom to see almost all the mass suspicious edits they made in 2021. Click on "older 500" to see further edits they made.

Antvasima questioned them and they ignored it.

NikHelton

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The profile statistics have been like that ever since then and no one called up for it.

Buddy, don't create problems out of thin air.
Before throwing slander and false accusations, read the list of threads.

These characteristics were accepted and approved in the Kengan revision section two years ago

 

[Vzearr]

Buddy, don't create problems out of thin air.
Before throwing slander and false accusations, read the list of threads.

These characteristics were accepted and approved in the Kengan revision section two years ago

You also changed the results without getting calcs re-evaluated. Can you link the threads ?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Ik this isn't rvr worthy, but Can someone plz give @Hmptaka a notice, he is unaware of how to add himself as verse supporters and making visual edits incorrectly.

 

[NikHelton]

You also changed the results without getting calcs re-evaluated. This calls for a pretty big warning imo. Also can you link the threads ?

Buddy, your Saw Paing calculation was changed and inserted into the verse several times in a row without editing. What are you talking about?

 

[Vzearr]

Buddy, your Saw Paing calculation was changed and inserted into the verse several times in a row without editing. What are you talking about?

I have not done that. Can you link the threads were the calc was accepted ?

 

[NikHelton]

I have not done that. Can you link the threads were the calc was accepted ?

Kengan revision

There is an absolute mess going on in the verse right now, so I made a number of calculations that were accepted. Moreover, the previous user who was updating the verse - Gin, left the wiki and generally agreed with all the calculations. In this way I wanted to reduce the wild gap between the...

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[Vzearr]

Kengan revision

There is an absolute mess going on in the verse right now, so I made a number of calculations that were accepted. Moreover, the previous user who was updating the verse - Gin, left the wiki and generally agreed with all the calculations. In this way I wanted to reduce the wild gap between the...

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My apologies. I will add the calcs back.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Kengan revision

There is an absolute mess going on in the verse right now, so I made a number of calculations that were accepted. Moreover, the previous user who was updating the verse - Gin, left the wiki and generally agreed with all the calculations. In this way I wanted to reduce the wild gap between the...

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You still need CGM analysis for the calcs either way

 

[NikHelton]

You still need CGM analysis for the calcs either way

We are talking about calculation 8-A.

I'll just do the speed calculations again and post it so it matches the rules

 

[Antvasima]

So if I understand the Ben 10 case correctly, the member who created the revision that omegabronic applied created a new and revised content revision thread after DontTalk changed our standards so the original revision thread was no longer relevant, and then omegabronic applied the original revision without knowing this. Is that correct?

If so, there does not seem to be any malicious punishable intent involved, just cluelessness, but omegabronic's revisions to Ben 10 pages still need to be reverted. Is that also correct?

 

[Antvasima]

What do other staff members here think about the Kenganverse issue?

 

[GarrixianXD]

Buddy, don't create problems out of thin air.
Before throwing slander and false accusations, read the list of threads.

These characteristics were accepted and approved in the Kengan revision section two years ago

Alright, I'll drop the case then. However, I think I had every right to report you. You undone several revisions made by Antvasima and when he questioned you on your message wall, you ignored the question. If that won't get people suspicious then I don't know what will, anyway, my apologies.

What do other staff members here think about the Kenganverse issue?

I scrolled through the entire CRT and everyone agreed with LordGinSama. I didn't have the time to read through the entire thread but seemingly everyone agreed with his points on applying the CRT, which I presumed led to the current status of Kenganverse. I think the case can be dropped.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is good then. Thank you for helping out.

 

[NikHelton]

Alright, I'll drop the case then. However, I think I had every right to report you.

Just ask a question in private messages next time.
Sorry if I responded harshly to your complaint. Now I work seven days a week and am very tired.

You undone several revisions made by Antvasima and when he questioned you on your message wall, you ignored the question. If that won't get people suspicious then I don't know what will, anyway, my apologies.

We may have connected via private messages or threads. I wouldn't ignore the administration

 

[Benimōru]

So if I understand the Ben 10 case correctly, the member who created the revision that omegabronic applied created a new and revised content revision thread after DontTalk changed our standards so the original revision thread was no longer relevant, and then omegabronic applied the original revision without knowing this. Is that correct?

If so, there does not seem to be any malicious punishable intent involved, just cluelessness, but omegabronic's revisions to Ben 10 pages still need to be reverted. Is that also correct?

Yes, that's correct

 

[Omegabronic]

So if I understand the Ben 10 case correctly, the member who created the revision that omegabronic applied created a new and revised content revision thread after DontTalk changed our standards so the original revision thread was no longer relevant, and then omegabronic applied the original revision without knowing this. Is that correct?

Reiner made a new thread to see if the information was still acceptable under the new standards, however due to IRL complications he had to get off the wiki for a while and thus the thread was closed, so no conclusion regarding that was reached, leaving the previously accepted CRT still accepted

If so, there does not seem to be any malicious punishable intent involved, just cluelessness, but omegabronic's revisions to Ben 10 pages still need to be reverted. Is that also correct?

They wouldn't until someone makes a thread to revert or to cover why the standards affect the threads' results, until then what was accepted was accepted, like, yeah tge standards changed, but no one tried to revise what was previously accepted with a new thread yet, fot it to be reversed someone would need to do that first



To be more clear, while the standards have changed, to conclude if they affect what was accepted require another crt to be made to evaluate that, from what i see they don't affect much of anything thay was accepted for ben 10, but then again, a crt covering that is necsesary to see if anything affects what was accepted
Standards change all the time, to see if them affect the accepted information requires a CRT

 

[Mizuki67]

Someone vandalised akuto sai (manga) profile

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Link isn't working anyways
I got you,
Here is the vandalised guy,

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Someone vandalised akuto sai (manga) profile

neco-arc soloes that fodder.
also, i've undone the vandal's edit

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Link isn't working anyways
I got you,
Here is the vandalised guy,

It looks like they were even warned by Garrixian previously.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

It looks like they were even warned by Garrixian previously.

Maybe ignored the warning.

 

[Catzlaflame]

This is his second time doing it. @GarrixianXD warned him before for the exact same violation in the past 24 hours; additionally, within this same week he was warned by DDM. Both provided the user instructions on how to become a productive member, but they seemingly ignored it. This member clearly does not intend on doing anything, but cause harm so I have applied a Temporary 1 day ban to stop them from doing any more damage, until staff decide on an appropriate ban length.

 

[Benimōru]

Snip

I am still waiting for a definitive response to solve this issue.

I will either undo the edits or create a thread, depending on the answer.

Thanks in advance

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, that's correct

Okay, so is somebody willing to revert the page to how they should be then?

@Reiner

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so is somebody willing to revert the page to how they should be then?

@Reiner

Hmm. It seems like Reiner is taking a break from this community. Is anybody else willing to handle it?

 

[Antvasima]

This is his second time doing it. @GarrixianXD warned him before for the exact same violation in the past 24 hours; additionally, within this same week he was warned by DDM. Both provided the user instructions on how to become a productive member, but they seemingly ignored it. This member clearly does not intend on doing anything, but cause harm so I have applied a Temporary 1 day ban to stop them from doing any more damage, until staff decide on an appropriate ban length.

I gave them a 6 months block, but let them keep their ability to respond to their message wall, in case there is a misunderstanding that we need to clear up.

IgglePowerPiggle

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[Antvasima]

I am still waiting for a definitive response to solve this issue.

I will either undo the edits or create a thread, depending on the answer.

Thanks in advance

Well, I do not think that any punishment seems necessary, but it is probably best to revert the edits until a more proper decision has been reached.

 

[Benimōru]

Well, I do not think that any punishment seems necessary, but it is probably best to revert the edits until a more proper decision has been reached.

Alright. I'll undo the edits in a few hours, then

 

[Omegabronic]

Okay, so is somebody willing to revert the page to how they should be then?

@Reiner

I would like to say that if anything would to be done about it, it would need to be a thread re evaluating the infor mation to see if it matches the standards, since as i have explained, the thread in question is currently accepted and no thread was made contesting it and concluded

This was the thread that was accepted: https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-re-justification-of-low-1-c.160533/

And this was the thread @Benimōru is saying tgat revert it: https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-downgrade-upgrade-re-re-justification.160610/

However as everyone can see, that thread was never accepted or concluded, so until one about the subject is concluded, we must go with the thread that was accepted, as no other thread on the matter was made

 

[Antvasima]

I would like to say that if anything would to be done about it, it would need to be a thread re evaluating the infor mation to see if it matches the standards, since as i have explained, the thread in question is currently accepted and no thread was made contesting it and concluded

Okay. What do the rest of our staff members here think?

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[Omegabronic]

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Could you also ping the staff that were involved with the thread in question here? I feel like their view is important on the matter, the ones that you haven't tagged yet would be @Planck69 @EliminatorVenom and @Lonkitt

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Alright, I didn't speak on it, as it's been a bad couple of weeks and I'm not trying to get involved in every RVR thing. Let's see if I understand: Omega put through the results of an accepted thread, but then there was an immediate change that would then require a new thread, meaning we ought to undo Omega's current thing and let them set up a new thread to put the proper changes to, is that more or less correct?

 

[Quintessence_PE]

Alright, I didn't speak on it, as it's been a bad couple of weeks and I'm not trying to get involved in every RVR thing. Let's see if I understand: Omega put through the results of an accepted thread, but then there was an immediate change that would then require a new thread, meaning we ought to undo Omega's current thing and let them set up a new thread to put the proper changes to, is that more or less correct?

yes a new crt was needed before making changes (because reiner is gone) but omegabronic applied the old crt without opening a new crt so the changes should be undone and a new crt should be opened if needed.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Agree with undoing the changes then.

 

[Benimōru]

Omega put through the results of an accepted thread

After the thread was closed and DT posted his own draft, the OP started a new thread, arguing that according to the new standards the previous one was wrong and that proposal according to the new standards should be as in the new OP, and then had that thread closed at his own request.

In short, there is something that was left unfinished and then tried to be fixed and left unfinished again

 

[Mr. Bambu]

After the thread was closed and DT posted his own draft, the OP started a new thread, arguing that according to the new standards the previous one was wrong and that promotion according to the new standards should be as in the new OP, and then had that thread closed at his own request.

In short, there is something that was left unfinished and then tried to be fixed and left again

Alright. In that case, it's probably fine to pursue the subject and undo the changes. Definitely no actual rule violation though, and no punishment needs doled out. Are you able to undo the changes yourself or do you need assistance?

 

[Quintessence_PE]

Alright. In that case, it's probably fine to pursue the subject and undo the changes. Definitely no actual rule violation though, and no punishment needs doled out. Are you able to undo the changes yourself or do you need assistance?

we changed open profiles but closed profiles need to be opened

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Contumelia

The Contumelia are a fifth-dimensional alien race of neutral, cosmos-travelling "observers", and the original creators of the Annihilarrgh. Tier: Unknown, at least 1-C, likely 1-B with Technology Name: Contumelia Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Inapplicable Age: Inapplicable. Exist beyond time...

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[Benimōru]

Are you able to undo the changes yourself or do you need assistance?

We have done some of it, there are a few locked profiles left and I wrote to all purpose thread about it.

Edit: Quintessence has already posted the profiles here lol.