Genshin Tier 4 CRT

[TheGreatJedi13]

Another doubt is that the "star" within the realm isn't an actual star, but rather a light source which well... I don't have much to counteract with that. Many people would juxtapose the "sun" in the realm and the light source in Enkanomiya. However, if you watch closely many parts of Enkanomiya are quite dark compared to many well-lightened places on Earth not to mention the entire territory is underground.



And not even the entirety of Enkanomiya is lightened. So we can conclude that the light source in Enkanomiya isn't entirely the same as the "sun" in the sub-space pocket dimensions, visually speaking. And logically speaking, we wouldn't consider a star that lights up a planet not to be a star which also applies to this case, where the "sun" of the realm not being the size of a star is less likely.

Still have to disagree

Enkanomiya is a stationary Light source that is not elevated enough of course areas would appear darker but as you can see the closer you are to it the brighter it is way brighter that regular appearance in the pocket dimension.

I would also like to bring up the fact that the Sky even in the real world is Fake as per Scaramouche deduction and quite a chunk of things in Genshin functions tee bit differently which is like I said the Sky itself.

but even if we disregard that

If your argument holds that the Sun is real but not the stars then we have a problem if they make a star appear but it not being an actual star in the Sky what reason do we have to assume that the Sun doesn't follow a similar method in this pocket dimension?
Normally if we have feats that would warrant something close or relatively close to the feat I would agree but due to how this is a massive jump in tiers I find it really illogical seeing how even adepti has only shown feats in regards to wide range of areas but not the entirety of the world let alone also create something that is off the space between the sun and the land in the pocket dimension
and the pocket dimension itself is very limited area as I said before you wouldn't need a sun to light up an area only as large as a few mountain ranges or archipelago

You may prove that the Light source in the pocket dimension is brighter but you haven't answered questions in regards of the necessity of the light source being that significant over a small pocket area

the rest with UES is good tho

 

[GarrixianXD]

Still have to disagree

Enkanomiya is a stationary Light source that is not elevated enough of course areas would appear darker but as you can see the closer you are to it the brighter it is way brighter that regular appearance in the pocket dimension.

Well yeah, of course it becomes brighter than the usual saturation in the Serenitea Pot because you’re right next to it. It actually is elevated since there’s a beam shining through the tower.

I would also like to bring up the fact that the Sky even in the real world is Fake as per Scaramouche deduction and quite a chunk of things in Genshin functions tee bit differently which is like I said the Sky itself.

The whole “sky and stars are fake” theory is quit the cliche and bit too vague to be admissible. Scaramouche stated the sky and stars are “a hoax, a lie”, but not explicitly stating it’s fake. The context of Scaramouche’s statement; “The stars, the sky… It’s all a gigantic hoax. A lie” could be anything, not necessarily being nonexistent alone.

but even if we disregard that

If your argument holds that the Sun is real but not the stars then we have a problem if they make a star appear but it not being an actual star in the Sky what reason do we have to assume that the Sun doesn't follow a similar method in this pocket dimension?

Refer to my previous statement. The Sub-space is specifically created by adepti which comes with its own earth. If that can be real, logically speaking, a sun can also be placed as their own pocket dimensions’ properties can differ from that of Teyvat. Take Ei’s Plane of Euthymia and Makoto’s Realm of Consciousness for example.

Normally if we have feats that would warrant something close or relatively close to the feat I would agree but due to how this is a massive jump in tiers I find it really illogical seeing how even adepti has only shown feats in regards to wide range of areas but not the entirety of the world let alone also create something that is off the space between the sun and the land in the pocket dimension

At least it’s not a jump to tier 1.

We’ve seen feats of space-time shattering and an entire realm gone from existence. There’s been descriptions and lore about realm creation, so it’s not something inconsistent. I wouldn’t say it’s something crazy.

and the pocket dimension itself is very limited area as I said before you wouldn't need a sun to light up an area only as large as a few mountain ranges or archipelago

It’s not limited. It only limited the player’s ability to travel beyond the map. The actual size beyond the world barriers is unknown.

You may prove that the Light source in the pocket dimension is brighter but you haven't answered questions in regards of the necessity of the light source being that significant over a small pocket area

Refer to my previous statement.

the rest with UES is good tho

Awesome.

 

[Harith0cell]

Does apep scale to this feat to?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Just get the traveller and his/her companion to tier 4 ong

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Refer to my previous statement. The Sub-space is specifically created by adepti which comes with its own earth. If that can be real, logically speaking, a sun can also be placed as their own pocket dimensions’ properties can differ from that of Teyvat. Take Ei’s Plane of Euthymia and Makoto’s Realm of Consciousness for example.

We’ve seen feats of space-time shattering and an entire realm gone from existence. There’s been descriptions and lore about realm creation, so it’s not something inconsistent. I wouldn’t say it’s something crazy.

Well look at the latest response with the whale feat
if we can agree that these feats are based on archons or stronger beings then I guess the p;ower granted by Serenitea pot is limited to that extent but it does push higher peeps like Zhongli and Makoto/Ei to tier 4

May I ask who do you think might scale since we know some adepti and Archons are a cut above compared to the others
and although I haven't finished fontaine story I'm pretty sure this whale is something more equivalent to dragons such as Azdhavaasadha and Nouvilette.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Well look at the latest response with the whale feat
if we can agree that these feats are based on archons or stronger beings then I guess the p;ower granted by Serenitea pot is limited to that extent but it does push higher peeps like Zhongli and Makoto/Ei to tier 4

May I ask who do you think might scale since we know some adepti and Archons are a cut above compared to the others
and although I haven't finished fontaine story I'm pretty sure this whale is something more equivalent to dragons such as Azdhavaasadha and Nouvilette.

Zhongli, Raiden, Azhdaha, Neuvillette, that whale thingy

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Let’s see what the Oratrice Mecanique D’analyse Cardinale has to say about this CRT.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Oratrice Mecanique D’analyse Cardinale

What

 

[Avengershows]

Is there any actual proof for the star being an actual star, other than a giant yellow ball being in the sky?
Also, you literally posted a direct counter to this where it says that the realms aren't proper worlds, and that they can't even fit a city in them.
Also using wiki links and quotes, seriously?
I heavily disagree with this CRT

 

[GarrixianXD]

Is there any actual proof for the star being an actual star, other than a giant yellow ball being in the sky?

It lit up the entire realm and acts like a sun. I already explained about this.

Also, you literally posted a direct counter to this where it says that the realms aren't proper worlds, and that they can't even fit a city in them.

I also elucidated about that.

Also using wiki links and quotes, seriously?
I heavily disagree with this CRT

All those articles have references with statements you can find in-game.

 

[Avengershows]

It lit up the entire realm and acts like a sun. I already explained about this.

That doesn't mean it's an actual star, you know that, right?
Especially since it appears much bigger in the sky than our own, and has clouds circling around it. It could literally just be a ball of light or whatever the hell xyz away that's like, 1 km in radius, but is far away enough and has the right luminosity to light up a """World""" that can't fit a city in itself.

I also elucidated about that.

Where?

All those articles have references with statements you can find in-game.

._.

 

[GarrixianXD]

That doesn't mean it's an actual star, you know that, right?
Especially since it appears much bigger in the sky than our own, and has clouds circling around it. It could literally just be a ball of light or whatever the hell xyz away that's like, 1 km in radius, but is far away enough and has the right luminosity to light up a """World""" that can't fit a city in itself.

The entire sky is lit and it forms an entire horizon. Can’t be only 1 kilometre in radius. It appearing bigger in the sky would just make it a bigger star. And it said one “cannot build a city”, and there’s actually a difference between that in my explanation.

Where?

My educated guess of what they meant is that the Traveler can't build an entire city due to its world boundaries. The Traveler can't pass the territory beyond the red territory displayed on the map.

However, you can see land and territory beyond the map. It's kinda like Minecraft where there's a world limit, where the player can't pass it but there is land beyond the world limit.

I can't find a clip of a player going to the edge of the map but I can screen record and pray that the video can be uploaded.

 

[KingNanaya]

I think tier 4 is reasonable to assume.

 

[Aether2734]

What ever feats mention
Every archon with gnosis also shouki kami technically scale to this except nahida since she doesn't have way to use it in combat, but still gnosis potential are same, even got stated in shouki no kami description it carry enormous energy, also zhongli implied if he lost significant power after release his gnosis. Since skirk and neuvilette itself already mention if gnosis was just portion power of sovereign dragon that been steal by celestia.

Tbh i could agree with realm creation by adepti, since there is supporting statement in (Archon Quest Perilous Trail) also mention if combination power of adepti and human can move star, rising power earth and heaven.

But the issue for realm creation is
Realm creation are need timeframe to be calc as far i am aware, and we lack of timeframe.

Beside celestial body in adepti realm, iirc there is also moon exist in raiden plane of euthomia

 

[GarrixianXD]

But the issue for realm creation is
Realm creation are need timeframe to be calc as far i am aware, and we lack of timeframe.

Beside celestial body in adepti realm, iirc there is also moon exist in raiden plane of euthomia

Common Feat: Creating A Pocket Dimension With a Sun and Earth inside of it (REDUX)

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That’s been solved. Though, if the Sun is possibly bigger than the Sun in our solar system then I can create a new one but I think we’re good with KLOL’s calc.

 

[Avengershows]

The entire sky is lit and it forms an entire horizon. Can’t be only 1 kilometre in radius. It appearing bigger in the sky would just make it a bigger star. And it said one “cannot build a city”, and there’s actually a difference between that in my explanation.

On account of what logic can't it be only 1 kilometer in radius? Also, that wasn't an actual value I thought was logic, I just randomly threw one.

As for the 'world limit' reasoning, that's just???
A city can't fit because it's stated to explicitly not be a real world. Meaning that it's not the same size as the real one.

 

[GarrixianXD]

On account of what logic can't it be only 1 kilometer in radius? Also, that wasn't an actual value I thought was logic, I just randomly threw one.

The entire sky is lit and it forms an entire horizon. Can’t be only 1 kilometre in radius. It appearing bigger in the sky would just make it a bigger star. And it said one “cannot build a city”, and there’s actually a difference between that in my explanation.

I already explained.

As for the 'world limit' reasoning, that's just???
A city can't fit because it's stated to explicitly not be a real world. Meaning that it's not the same size as the real one.

And a world barrier likely clarifies that because we don’t see something like that in Teyvat.

 

[Avengershows]

I already explained.

Explain your logic as to why a random ball of light can't light up a horizon if the world is smaller? Like... How does that logic even work??? If I shine my flashlight over a tennis ball I can light up the tennis balls horizon.

And a world barrier likely clarifies that because we don’t see something like that in Teyvat.

And is the world border ever mentioned canonically in the story in reference to the pots?
You're grasping at straws.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Explain your logic as to why a random ball of light can't light up a horizon if the world is smaller? Like... How does that logic even work??? If I shine my flashlight over a tennis ball I can light up the tennis balls horizon.

Since when did it say it’s smaller than a planet?

And is the world border ever mentioned canonically in the story in reference to the pots?
You're grasping at straws.

Well, not from what I can recall, but it’s there. Many concepts in Genshin all have that extremely vague explanations.

 

[KingNanaya]

Concepts in Genshin all have extremely vague explanations.

I think this is what you mean lol

 

[Avengershows]

Since when did it say it’s smaller than a planet?

Is there proof it's the size of a planet? Can you provide any proof?

Well, not from what I can recall, but it’s there. Many concepts in Genshin all have that extremely vague explanations.

So you're making an assumption about a game mechanic being canon intentionally so you can wank Genshin?

 

[GarrixianXD]

Is there proof it's the size of a planet? Can you provide any proof?

inhaled

You, sir, are a tough one.

I don’t know what to say about this at this point, but it is described as “worlds”. It has a celestial looking object lighting. It acts like a planet and a star.

So you're making an assumption about a game mechanic being canon intentionally so you can wank Genshin?

Has to be more than game mechanics if it’s only in the Serenitea Pot.

 

[Aether2734]

Is there proof it's the size of a planet? Can you provide any proof?

I don't know if this help or not, but for sure "light ball" And moon inside the realm have it's own rotation

 

[Avengershows]

but it is described as “worlds”

It's literally, verbatim stated to NOT be a real world. Stop being dense.

Has to be more than game mechanics if it’s only in the Serenitea Pot.

The actual map has them too, and every other map. Or are we ignoring that because it doesn't fit your wank.

I don't know if this help or not, but for sure "light ball" And moon inside the realm have it's own rotation

And?
The realm could literally just be a smaller planetoid.

 

[GarrixianXD]

It's literally, verbatim stated to NOT be a real world. Stop being dense.

You got an explanation why tangible real materials can be created there then if matter isn’t real?

The actual map has them too, and every other map. Or are we ignoring that because it doesn't fit your wank.

No. At the end of the map you can see a barrier in the Serenitea pot. It’s in the Inazuma layout, I can send a screen record.

And?
The realm could literally just be a smaller planetoid.

We don’t have standards for all of that, which just comes as a pain in the ass. Can’t say you’re right nor wrong. Depends on which one of us has more logical arguments.

 

[Avengershows]

You got an explanation why tangible real materials can be created there then if matter isn’t real?

Did I say that it's not real? I said it isn't a real world, as in, a proper one, as in, sized the same as a proper one.

No. At the end of the map you can see a barrier in the Serenitea pot. It’s in the Inazuma layout, I can send a screen record.

Sure, go ahead. But again, that is literally just a gameplay mechanic meant to stop you from creating a giant plain of nothing because for obvious reasons it's not something a phone can handle. There's just so many things wrong with using this logic.

We don’t have standards for all of that, which just comes as a pain in the ass. Can’t say you’re right nor wrong. Depends on which one of us has more logical arguments.

You're wrong for automatically assuming it's a) a proper planet, b) a proper Moon and c) a proper Sun without any, non-conditional (as in, not mutually reliant on other assumptions) proof.
You can't assume it's planet sized purely because you want to. There has to be actual proof it is.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Problem is if its a small planetoid it wouldn't explain how gravity still works similarly to Teyvat

 

[GarrixianXD]

Did I say that it's not real? I said it isn't a real world, as in, a proper one, as in, sized the same as a proper one.

And I did say it wasn't a real world, but the matter in there is real.

Sure, go ahead. But again, that is literally just a gameplay mechanic meant to stop you from creating a giant plain of nothing because for obvious reasons it's not something a phone can handle. There's just so many things wrong with using this logic.

The lore can always incorporate something absurd that's forced to be implemented into the game.

You're wrong for automatically assuming it's a) a proper planet, b) a proper Moon and c) a proper Sun without any, non-conditional (as in, not mutually reliant on other assumptions) proof.
You can't assume it's planet sized purely because you want to. There has to be actual proof it is.

I'm going by logic, only if we had standards for pocket reality.

@Qawsedf234 I'm at a dead end here, what do you have to say?

Problem is if its a small planetoid it wouldn't explain how gravity still works similarly to Teyvat

Fiction is quite the ass when it comes to physics, but you got a point.

 

[Avengershows]

Problem is if its a small planetoid it wouldn't explain how gravity still works similarly to Teyvat

Look at Phosporous and Hepwhatever in Honkai 3rd.
Again, it's not a real world. It's a world made by magical energy and is in a ******* teapot.

And I did say it wasn't a real world, but the matter in there is real.

I never denied the matter being real, please stop reading what hasn't been said.

The lore can always incorporate something absurd that's forced to be implemented into the game.

can. But it didn't, it hasn't ever been brought up, and can't be taken as canon.

I'm going by logic, only if we had standards for pocket reality.

What does this sentence even mean?

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Look at Phosporous and Hepwhatever in Honkai 3rd.
Again, it's not a real world. It's a world made by magical energy and is in a ******* teapot.

Many times pocket dimensions can be condensed into a small entity
just like how one can make a pocket dimension inside a Card and get rating from it I don't see how it being a teapot somehow makes it not valid

Also, I'm not checking Honkai 3rd unless Hoyoverse followers establish a proper cross-scaling/crossreferencing standard between 2 verse
especially with how different Genshin Impact is compared to Honkai Impact and Star Rail

Lastly, Calm down a bit

 

[GarrixianXD]

Look at Phosporous and Hepwhatever in Honkai 3rd.
Again, it's not a real world. It's a world made by magical energy and is in a ******* teapot.

If a teapot can store an entire realm then it's not an ordinary teapot, or it would rather be a portal.

I never denied the matter being real, please stop reading what hasn't been said.

Sorry, I didn't rlly sleep well and my vision can be blurry at times.

can. But it didn't, it hasn't ever been brought up, and can't be taken as canon.

How so? Character abilities are brought up to canon but it's never been explicitly mentioned.

What does this sentence even mean?

Standards for pocket realities, like we should set a size limit to those pocket dimensions that look like Earth.

 

[Qawsedf234]

@Qawsedf234 I'm at a dead end here, what do you have to say?

In my view the size restriction statement is enough to call into question the legitimacy of the star being real. Since if you have a direct statement that something like a city is unable to be made then I don't see why we're suggesting there's 100 million miles of empty space within it.

But if we're ignoring that then idk. I still haven't been given an explanation about their UES stuff but if its straightforward then it would be 4-C.

 

[Avengershows]

If a teapot can store an entire realm then it's not an ordinary teapot, or it would rather be a portal.

I'm talking about the absurdity of the situation, as in, we can't really apply 1:1 logic to this.

How so? Character abilities are brought up to canon but it's never been explicitly mentioned.

I'm pretty sure there was a specific CRT for them. But the general rule of thumb on the site is "game mechanics =/= lore", especially mechanics which are made so your phone doesn't explode.

Standards for pocket realities, like we should set a size limit to those pocket dimensions that look like Earth.

That'd be completely arbitrary, it's an entirely case-by-case thing. We can't just decide a specific size on absolutely every pocket reality in fiction with dubious size because that's just not something you can standardize

 

[GarrixianXD]

In my view the size restriction statement is enough to call into question the legitimacy of the star being real. Since if you have a direct statement that something like a city is unable to be made then I don't see why we're suggesting there's 100 million miles of empty space within it.

It all comes down to postulations, all I can say is that it acts like a solar system. @Aether2734 also mentioned a Moon in Raiden's Plane of Euthymia, it should stabilise the logic.

But if we're ignoring that then idk. I still haven't been given an explanation about their UES stuff but if its straightforward then it would be 4-C.

I can create a page about it and send it to you once I'm done. It is quite straightforward for the adeptal energy part since it's all elemental.

I'm talking about the absurdity of the situation, as in, we can't really apply 1:1 logic to this.

What absurdity is there other than a statement of the world not being real and the postulation that it's extremely small?

I'm pretty sure there was a specific CRT for them. But the general rule of thumb on the site is "game mechanics =/= lore", especially mechanics which are made so your phone doesn't explode.

It's not completely game mechanics, as I said there's a visible barrier at the end of the map where Teyvat does not have them.

That'd be completely arbitrary, it's an entirely case-by-case thing. We can't just decide a specific size on absolutely every pocket reality in fiction with dubious size because that's just not something you can standardize

Well... we standardised a lot of things. That's really up to the staff to discuss.

 

[Dog3352]

Seriously, they decided to torture me with this CRT again, anyway, I'm busy at the moment, I'll look into it soon.

 

[KingNanaya]

Seriously, they decided to torture me with this CRT again, anyway, I'm busy at the moment, I'll look into it soon.

suffer

 

[Avengershows]

It's not completely game mechanics, as I said there's a visible barrier at the end of the map where Teyvat does not have them.

It is completely game mechanics. Saying it's not because Teyvat (an actual planet fyi) doesn't have them is incredibly stupid.

What absurdity is there other than a statement of the world not being real and the postulation that it's extremely small?

The fact that in one of the Adeptus Worlds clouds circle around the sun, the fact that we enter it via a teapot, the fact that it was made with a bunch of twigs and stones and basically magic, etc. You can do none of these things in real life.

Moon in Raiden's Plane of Euthymia

Is there any proof that it's an actual, real Moon? Last time I checked the Moon doesn't look that close irl, nor does it radiate energy.

It all comes down to postulations, all I can say is that it acts like a solar system.

Something behaving like a solar system doesn't make it one. We have numerous examples of this in the rest of the hoyoverse games. Like Bubble Worlds in HI3rd, which are stated to always be ridiculously smaller with fake skies, having day and night cycles. Or Stigmata Worlds, or literally anything.
Again, you're making a massive assumption about this with 0 actual tangible evidence other than mutually-reliant assumptions that you make in a verse that has shown numerous times that what you're assuming isn't the case in most instances.

 

[GarrixianXD]

It is completely game mechanics. Saying it's not because Teyvat (an actual planet fyi) doesn't have them is incredibly stupid.

I got no reply about that.

The fact that in one of the Adeptus Worlds clouds circle around the sun, the fact that we enter it via a teapot, the fact that it was made with a bunch of twigs and stones and basically magic, etc. You can do none of these things in real life.

You mean adeptal abilities. And yes, that's the entire point of this CRT.

Is there any proof that it's an actual, real Moon? Last time I checked the Moon doesn't look that close irl, nor does it radiate energy.

I'm unsure about that. @Aether2734 Got any intel?

Something behaving like a solar system doesn't make it one. We have numerous examples of this in the rest of the hoyoverse games. Like Bubble Worlds in HI3rd, which are stated to always be ridiculously smaller with fake skies, having day and night cycles. Or Stigmata Worlds, or literally anything.
Again, you're making a massive assumption about this with 0 actual tangible evidence other than mutually-reliant assumptions that you make in a verse that has shown numerous times that what you're assuming isn't the case in most instances.

That's Honkai you're talking about. I'd say you're even incorrect about that but that'll be derailing. And yeah, it does. If you are on land and you see a sun it means you're residing on a solar system.

 

[Dog3352]

UNIVERSAL ENERGY SYSTEM

The Universal Energy System of Genshin is elementary energy wielded by allogenes and adepti energy is a variant of the UES.

As stated by the messages shown above, Qiqi's ability all has the term "Adepti Energy" in it and adding to the fact that Qiqi is also an adepti, we can confirm that adeptal power is a type of energy part of the Universal Energy System of Genshin. Waijing is a method of sub-space creation that allows the user to create pocket dimensions out of their imagination.

Sub-Space Creation

Sub-Space Creation or Waijing (Chinese: 外景 Wàijǐng, "Outdoor Scene")[1] is an adeptal ability used to create small, autonomous pocket worlds through imagination.[1][2] This ability was a blessing from Rex Lapis and has been used during troubling times for some brief respite.[3] Even though it is...

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This ability was a blessing from Rex Lapis and has been used during troubling times for some brief respite.[3] Even though it is a powerful adeptal ability, it does have limitations: one cannot build a whole city inside, since it is not a true world.[4]

From the description above, we can conclude that Waijing is an adeptal ability and therefore functions through the harness of adeptal energy.

The doubts about the legitimacy of this ability bases on the concept of it being "imaginary" and the realm itself is not supposed to be real. However, I'm not arguing for the destruction of its space and time but for the star contained in the realm.

Serenitea Pot

The Serenitea Pot or Realm Within (colloquially also known as Teapot, Housing, Homeland, or Player Housing) is a system in Genshin Impact that allows the player to create their own home. Players interact with the system using a gadget of the same name. Players can request to visit their friend's...

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The Serenitea Pot is a pocket dimension created through "Waijing", and all of the materials contained in the realm is all real and tangible despite the realm itself being "fake".

Serenitea Pot

The Serenitea Pot or Realm Within (colloquially also known as Teapot, Housing, Homeland, or Player Housing) is a system in Genshin Impact that allows the player to create their own home. Players interact with the system using a gadget of the same name. Players can request to visit their friend's...

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As we see from that section of the article, the Traveler can create furnishing materials out of resources harvested from Teyvat (which is Genshin's main world, therefore it's real).



The Traveler can stand, run, and pretty much move freely around the realm and interact with the tangible matter in the realm.

Logically speaking, all of the furnishing material inside of the realm can be inferred as "tangible" and for it to interact with the Earth inside the realm, the ground has to be tangible as well. Therefore, if the Earth is tangible then the star of the realm has to be tangible as well.

Another doubt is that the "star" within the realm isn't an actual star, but rather a light source which well... I don't have much to counteract with that. Many people would juxtapose the "sun" in the realm and the light source in Enkanomiya. However, if you watch closely many parts of Enkanomiya are quite dark compared to many well-lightened places on Earth not to mention the entire territory is underground.



And not even the entirety of Enkanomiya is lightened. So we can conclude that the light source in Enkanomiya isn't entirely the same as the "sun" in the sub-space pocket dimensions, visually speaking. And logically speaking, we wouldn't consider a star that lights up a planet not to be a star which also applies to this case, where the "sun" of the realm not being the size of a star is less likely.

Haxes for Nahida and Il Dottore
I currently have nothing major to clarify on that and much of it has been explained on the main OP of this thread.
@Amost6x @Giannysmag @Aether2734 @DarkGrath @Qawsedf234 @Planck69 @DarkDragonMedeus

Adeptis Energy is not a variant of anything, it is just another type of energy, just like 457907345 other energies in Genshin that I ignore. What do the devils and UES?

Firstly, Qiqi is not an Adeptis, she has adeptis energy. Secondly, Qiqi can't even control this energy and doesn't use it, as she doesn't even fight. Thirdly, the skill is called "adeptis art" and not "Adeptis Energy. Fourthly, this is irrelevant, Xiao is an Adeptis/Yaksha who has total control of the Adeptis energy and his abilities are not called that.

Basically: The name is "adeptis arts" and not "adeptis energy", and that's just a name. Of course, even if it has meaning with the lore, it would probably be because of their talismans, which are literally an Adeptis Art.

This has never been said, in addition to constantly being said that they use a "sub-space creation energy", making it clear that it is another type of energy, which is only used in the creation of sub-spaces and to create the items of there.

"An orderly field that is saturated with Sub-Space Creation energy. The fertile soil has almost unlimited nutrition, and thus seeds planted here will grow into excellent crops in time without much need for intensive care. However, crops placed here will tend to put long roots down, so you cannot put too many crops in here if you wish to give them all sufficient room to grow.
The following seeds, spores, and samples obtained from the Seed Dispensary may be planted here: Valberry, Sweet Flower, Small Lamp Grass, Jueyun Chili, Carrot, Radish, Mint, Mushroom, Harra Fruit, Zaytun Peach."

It's not really important anymore, since clearly they use another type of energy to create the subspace and the items within them, and not Adeptus Energy.

Why is Enkanomiya being brought to light? The sun there is basically a very bright light on a tower.

 

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Adeptis Energy is not a variant of anything, it is just another type of energy, just like 457907345 other energies in Genshin that I ignore. What do the devils and UES?

Uh, exactly. It's apart of the UES of Genshin.

Firstly, Qiqi is not an Adeptis, she has adeptis energy. Secondly, Qiqi can't even control this energy and doesn't use it, as she doesn't even fight. Thirdly, the skill is called "adeptis art" and not "Adeptis Energy. Fourthly, this is irrelevant, Xiao is an Adeptis/Yaksha who has total control of the Adeptis energy and his abilities are not called that.

I wasn't talking about Qiqi. And the title itself pretty much displays they are using adeptal energy. I explained about it before already, and Xiao doesn't need his abilities to be called that as long as it's adeptal arts.

Basically: The name is "adeptis arts" and not "adeptis energy", and that's just a name. Of course, even if it has meaning with the lore, it would probably be because of their talismans, which are literally an Adeptis Art.

And talisman is activated by channelling their energy. Adeptis art is conjured through energy.

This has never been said, in addition to constantly being said that they use a "sub-space creation energy", making it clear that it is another type of energy, which is only used in the creation of sub-spaces and to create the items of there.

They used adeptis art created which is conjured from energy, as I said above, ditto.

It's not really important anymore, since clearly they use another type of energy to create the subspace and the items within them, and not Adeptus Energy.

Why would they use another type of energy if they're using adeptal arts to create it?

Why is Enkanomiya being brought to light? The sun there is basically a very bright light on a tower.

I wasn't the one who brought this up. I already explained it to @TheGreatJedi13.