Sans Fights a 2-A Character

[Lou_change]

They deal 1 damage no matter your durability or armour.

They deal the minimum amount of damage the game allows representing chip damage besides one exception with unique circumstances

 

[XxZetsuxX]

This is only when he esses a whole universe.

To one person, the effect is isntant.

Law hax

 

[ShionAH]

They deal the minimum amount of damage the game allows representing chip damage besides one exception with unique circumstances

Asriel fight says hello

 

[Lou_change]

Asriel fight says hello

That is the one exception and involves frisk at their highest known level of determination which also allowed them to resurrect without rewinding time reduce damage from attacks and create healing items

 

[ShionAH]

That is the one exception

Okay? That doesnt disprove me point

and involves frisk at their highest known level of determination which also allowed them to resurrect without rewinding time reduce damage from attacks and create healing items

Irrelevant

 

[Fezzih_007]

Law hax

Zeno still erases him, Sans attacking first don't do much.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Zeno still erases him, Sans attacking first don't do much.

Sans attacks first which will kill him in seconds

 

[Redite250]

Asriel dealing less than one damage is irrelevant either way cause like, what does that mean? That he's weaker than Sans?

 

[ShionAH]

Zeno still erases him, Sans attacking first don't do much.

This was discussed there, go look at the arguements yourself if you want

Its an incon since Zeno would not erase the attacks only sans, which means the attacks will take a "revenge" kill

 

[XxZetsuxX]

See where are we heading XD?

 

[ShionAH]

Asriel dealing less than one damage is irrelevant either way cause like, what does that mean? That he's weaker than Sans?

No one is implying that...

The whole "Sans doesnt dura neg! He deals 1 damage because thats the least someone can take in Undertale" is wrong because of it

 

[XxZetsuxX]

But once again, I request that this thread gets closed as this is clearly a stomp in Galactus favor

But people are ignoring this

 

[Fezzih_007]

This was discussed there, go look at the arguements yourself if you want

Its an incon since Zeno would not erase the attacks only sans, which means the attacks will take a "revenge" kill

I did read the thread, and that makes zero sense.

Whatever, i gonna drop this talk.

 

[ShionAH]

I did read the thread, and that makes zero sense.

Ok. It did make sense to those people I guess.

Whatever, i gonna drop this talk.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Can i ask an admin to close this thread?

 

[Lou_change]

Irrelevant

How it is literally the only case and clearly had unique circumstances like frisk refusing to die so much they just didn’t period.

This is clearly an exception to the rules otherwise monster except Asriel who has the powers of every other monster should have deals at least one point of damage with magic which is a contradiction

 

[ShionAH]

How it is literally the only case and clearly had unique circumstances like frisk refusing to die so much they just didn’t period.

This is clearly an exception to the rules otherwise monster except Asriel who has the powers of every other monster should have deals at least one point of damage with magic which is a contradiction

It proves humans can take less than 1 damage.

 

[Lou_change]

It proves humans can take less than 1 damage.

It proves frisk at max determination refused to die so much Asriel can’t kill them

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I proves frisk at max determination refuse to die so much Asriel can’t kill them

Just make a crt. You would need to make one anyways.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Just close this....

 

[ShionAH]

I proves frisk at max determination refuse to die so much Asriel can’t kill them

Headcanon + Irrelevant to my point.

My point is humans CAN take less than 1 damage. So the whole thing about limited dura neg is flawed

 

[Lou_change]

Headcanon + Irrelevant to my point.

My point is humans CAN take less than 1 damage. So the whole thing about limited dura neg is flawed

only the number lowers the health bar stays the same after you reach 1 and my point is a massive amount of de-termination was involved and therefore an exception rather than the rule.

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

I am now genuinely concerned how Sans was able to defeat DBS characters

to be fair... sans had an inconclusive match with kid boo and broly z was about to destroy him....

just most of what occupy dbs don't argue against what they see in their opponent's profile and stick with what they get haha.

 

[Lou_change]

Just make a crt. You would need to make one anyways.

I am not sure if yhis is a content revision, this is about interpretation

 

[ShionAH]

only the number lowers the health bar stays the same after you reach 1 and my point is a massive amount of de-termination was involved and therefore an exception rather than the rule.

Expect we have no proof that Determination lets people take less than 1 damage. Thats weirdly specific.

 

[Zabazab]

Expect we have no proof that Determination lets people take less than 1 damage. Thats weirdly specific.

Frisk's fake attack on Undyne only dealt 1 damage. The case with Asriel is obviously unique.

 

[Lou_change]

Expect we have no proof that Determination lets people take less than 1 damage. Thats weirdly specific.

Literally every other case you take damage it is at least one if asriel has the powers of every monster and is infinitely stronger than them as the profile says and we know determination preventing death and the Asriel fight has them at what we consider their peak determination we should consider the possibility determination is the reason and this an exception to the rule that the rest of the game suggests.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I am not sure if yhis is a content revision, this is about interpretation

Pretty sure to implement it you need a crt.

 

[Redite250]

If we were to treat that one attack from Asriel the same way we treat every other attack it would mean that Asriel is the weakest monster in the underground since he deals less damage than like a froggit, that was clearly to showcase Frisk's determination to hang on, not that asriel was literally dealing like .000000001 damage with his strongest attack yet

 

[Lou_change]

Pretty sure to implement it you need a crt.

Him being able to kill characters with more than high 3-A is not on the profile it is an interpretation at best this would be a note

 

[ShionAH]

If we were to treat that one attack from Asriel the same way we treat every other attack it would mean that Asriel is the weakest monster in the underground since he deals less damage than like a froggit, that was clearly to showcase Frisk's determination to hang on, not that asriel was literally dealing like .000000001 damage with his strongest attack yet

I am saying Asriel shows Humans can take less than 1 damage, its obvious in the scene either Asriel is holding back or Frisk is reducing Asriels damage. Doesnt matter it still proves my point. Do not strawman me

 

[Lou_change]

Humans

Galactus isn't human

 

[ShionAH]

Galactus isn't human

I am convinced you are trolling me so I will leave now

 

[Redite250]

I am saying Asriel shows Humans can take less than 1 damage, its obvious in the scene either Asriel is holding back or Frisk is reducing Asriels damage. Doesnt matter it still proves my point. Do not strawman me

Asriel isn't holding back, he is literally screaming at the top of his lungs and his attack destroys the fight item and mercy buttons.
Sure Frisk is reducing damage is a fine explanation, so that only proves that humans can take less than one damage via damage reduction.

 

[ShionAH]

Asriel isn't holding back, he is literally screaming at the top of his lungs and his attack destroys the fight item and mercy buttons.

The Context says otherwise

Sure Frisk is reducing damage is a fine explanation, so that only proves that humans can take less than one damage via damage reduction.

No it proves humans can take less than one damage, that part you said is headcanon based on nothing and is just trying to prove yourself right

 

[Redite250]

The Context says otherwise

No it proves humans can take less than one damage, that part you said is headcanon based on nothing and is just trying to prove yourself right

You literally said Frisk was reducing damage, if the only instance of someone taking less than 1 damage was with damage reduction and vice versa then it's safe to assume that was because of the damage reduction especially given this is the strongest character in the verse doing an attack that is dealing less damage than a common enemy you find in the first area of the game, but this should be discussed in some other thread anyways

 

[ShionAH]

You literally said Frisk was reducing damage, if the only instance of someone taking less than 1 damage was with damage reduction and vice versa then it's safe to assume that was because of the damage reduction especially given this is the strongest character in the verse doing an attack that is dealing less damage than a common enemy you find in the first area of the game, but this should be discussed in some other thread anyways

You are ignoring how this either way shows they can take less than 1 damage

 

[Lou_change]

You are ignoring how this either way shows they can take less than 1 damage

As an except to the rule

 

[LaserPrecision]

Karma can't. But if there is only a single point of HP left, then sans just needs to scratch his opponents one more time to end the fight.

Late response, but again, that wouldn't work since their dura neg is limited. Sans attacks would be doing 0 damage to someone with 2-A durability.

 

[Omegabronic]

Late response, but again, that wouldn't work since their dura neg is limited. Sans attacks would be doing 0 damage to someone with 2-A durability.

not at all, sans is the exception to that rule, he deals the same damage regardless of your durability, why do you think that he has a unique description of dura neg than the physiology page?