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Nasuverse - High 1-B Cosmology

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Akashachann said:
So you're trying your best not to see the "..." part?

Do I really need to explain what that means, or is it a simple elementary school stuff?
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The ... part isn't in the original text.

But even so, there are six doors. We are given six directions. We have no reason to assume there's more.
 
Executor_N0 said:
Taking into reference similar wording, similar stuff alongside the cardinal directions is sometimes generalized as meaning "all of space" even when including places where there are higher dimensions.

The most clear example is Pokémon whose entire foundation of the 4th gen is exactly in the meaning of the word "Uchu" and "Sekai" using space as "up down, left right and back forth", and even in that case space is proven to have at least one more direction as parallel spaces are a thing that are encompassed by it.

Another similar example is the Four Holy Beasts in Digimon whose entire function is to set up the structure of all of time and space using the 4 cardinal directions as the basis for everything, but even in that context there are higher dimensions beyond just those, and yet when it's talking about space in an abstract sense, they often just call "up and down", "north, east, west, south".

In some cases, "north, east, west, south" are just a generalized way of saying "the general concept of directions", the same with "up, down, left, right, back and forth".

I'm almost perfectly sure that Nasuverse has clear examples of higher dimensions, so it mentioning the traditional spatial directions as "all dimensions" can be thought as just a general way of doing so.

Another similar example is that of 8, 80, 800, 8000, in Japanese like the 8 million gods, all have the traditional meaning of in fact referring to the "greatest number" "infinite", and "beyond count". So depending on the context, what seems to be limiting in fact just a way of generically calling an entire concept, instead of that specific version of the concept. It'll all depend on context in the series of course.
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sorry to ping you bro but can we stop acting like this doesn't exist? bro gave us very clear clarification on how it could be interpreted, and as far as I know, he is a very good and trustworthy translator. we shouldn't even be going back and forth about whether or not it's talking about spatial dimensions, because the raws clearly say otherwise
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
"All possible dimensions" is nowhere near present. Refer to this thread before you intentionally use mistranslations.
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Once again, this doesn't debunk anything. Did you forget what you literally said here;
No tiering changes will results from this as far as I know, since "space" most likely refers to spatial dimensions and the Sut-Thyphon still exist beyond the universe which has the dimensions.
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So why are you wasting everyone's time screaming "mistranslation" when you admitted the fact that both implied the exact same thing?
 
Tdjwo said:
So why are you wasting everyone's time screaming "mistranslation" when you admitted the fact that both implied the exact same thing?
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Well this situation isn't exactly same and even if it were I'm human and am able to change my mind. Plus as far as I'm concerned that just meant "no tiering changes for what it is now" instead of "no tiering changes forever". I believe it was a blatant contradiction but was just trying to make sense of it.
 
KingNanaya said:
sorry to ping you bro but can we stop acting like this doesn't exist? bro gave us very clear clarification on how it could be interpreted, and as far as I know, he is a very good and trustworthy translator. we shouldn't even be going back and forth about whether or not it's talking about spatial dimensions, because the raws clearly say otherwise
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it doesn't have to be interpreted that way, and unlike Pokemon, I see no reason why we should.

You're (upgrade side) trying to turn a blatantly obvious 3D statement into a high 1-B statement with misleading translations and leaps in logic.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Well this situation isn't exactly same and even if it were I'm human and am able to change my mind. Plus as far as I'm concerned that just meant "no tiering changes for what it is now" instead of "no tiering changes forever". I believe it was a blatant contradiction but was just trying to make sense of it.
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as far as I know, since "space" most likely refers to spatial dimensions
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Why are the opposers acting like the universe isn't way above 3D in the first place? The mooncell is literally 8D, Avalon is 6D yet you guys keep screaming "3D"
 
Tdjwo said:
Why are the opposers acting like the universe isn't way above 3D in the first place? The mooncell is literally 8D, Avalon is 6D yet you guys keep screaming "3D"
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it's not our fault your scans act like those higher dimensions don't exist and literally explicitly describe 3D space.
 
Hasty12345 said:
it doesn't have to be interpreted that way, and unlike Pokemon, I see no reason why we should.

You're (upgrade side) trying to turn a blatantly obvious 3D statement into a high 1-B statement with misleading translations and leaps in logic.
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There's a whole other thread where we talked about the high 1-B scan. It was accepted to be high 1-B, but it was agreed that we would decide where it applied, which is why this thread exists. The raws were shown, so I don't know why you're saying it's deceptive
 
Tdjwo said:
Once again, this doesn't debunk anything. Did you forget what you literally said here;
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If this is the actual statement, it certainly changes. Such a statement "all possible dimensions" would certainly scale to the current cosmology, as the case may be. But I'd rather wait for the experts than discuss this at length.
 
KingNanaya said:
There's a whole other thread where we talked about the high 1-B scan. It was accepted to be high 1-B, but it was agreed that we would decide where it applied, which is why this thread exists. The raws were shown, so I don't know why you're saying it's deceptive
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because not everyone may have read that thread and the OP is still showing scans that you're even acknowledging are incorrect.

How's that not deceptive?
 
MrUnderlord said:
This is your personal interpretation. And yet, six doors encompasses 8-D Moon Cell along with 6-D Reverse Side of the World. That is.
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It's not an interpretation. It's smack in the face what the scan says. If you want to argue against it, you're arguing the scan is wrong or the author made a mistake. Not that I made an interpretation that was wrong.

If you want to bend over backwards to reject the scan, fine, but don't assign responsibility for it to me. Im just pointing out what the scan very plainly states.
 
Tdjwo said:
Why are the opposers acting like the universe isn't way above 3D in the first place? The mooncell is literally 8D, Avalon is 6D yet you guys keep screaming "3D"
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It's not "the opposers." Its the scan.

Besides that, Avalon and the Moon Cell have those ratings based on an extremely specious basis.
 
Deagonx said:
It's not an interpretation. It's smack in the face what the scan says. If you want to argue against it, you're arguing the scan is wrong or the author made a mistake. Not that I made an interpretation that was wrong.

If you want to bend over backwards to reject the scan, fine, but don't assign responsibility for it to me. Im just pointing out what the scan very plainly states.
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they acting like a 10th grade English teacher trying to keep their job arguing the sky being blue is a metaphor
 
Deagonx said:
It's not an interpretation. It's smack in the face what the scan says. If you want to argue against it, you're arguing the scan is wrong or the author made a mistake. Not that I made an interpretation that was wrong.
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You are talking about six doors that encompasses 8-D Moon Cell and 6-D Reverse Side of the World and yet you saying that six doors is 3-D. Okay, that's it.
 
MrUnderlord said:
You are talking about six doors that encompasses 8-D Moon Cell and 6-D Reverse Side of the World and yet you saying that six doors is 3-D. Okay, that's it.
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No, I'm not saying that. The scan is. Don't put it on me, I'm just pointing out what the scan plainly says.

If you want to say the author made a mistake, go ahead.
 
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