Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[ImmortalDread]

There is no rule for what method a staff gives permission whether it be message walls, PMs, or even Discord messages. But it's generally appreciated to either show evidence, or if the staff in question mentions on the thread to confirm that they gave them permission to post once or something along those lines.

I have done so in @Deagonx's s DMs. He can confirm this. I can do the same in your dms if it is still a worthy issue.

Also I simply edited my main post that I got the permission. I don't get the reason of all this derail after the recognition

 

[Crabwhale]

Can all of y'all stop commenting for no reason?

And you @ShionAH. That's two or three messages in a row that have contributed absolutely nothing. I am threadbanning you from the RVR for a week.

And everyone else who commented something useless and unasked for has been noticed. Consider this the test bed for the new way this thread gets processed.

 

[Crabwhale]

I'll be diplomatic and let my fellow staff judge that comment.

In the meantime, this has nothing to do with Dread. This has been planned for a while. You act like a clown on the RVR from now on, you're out. Simple as.

 

[Deagonx]

I've nuked most of this. It was not report worthy and has now become inundated with randoms who have no connection to the situation.

RVR is not the place for this.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Continuing on after staff take action is not a great way to avoid warnings/thread bans. Like I said: we are handling shit. Moving on.

 

[Deagonx]

I've given a 24 hour thread ban to the folks who carried on after being told to stop.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Dang that's like 2 examples of power abuse in last 5 minutes. You don't have to be part of the situation to give input, and calling people randoms if unnecessary

Responding to this specifically... Yeah. You absolutely indeed. See the OP, we have rules specifically to avoid what you guys are doing. You either stop or get threadbanned, and some of you are teetering a very fine line right now (Shion has already ignored his threadban, that's grounds for a potential block).

 

[Crabwhale]

To put a final little bow on this shitcrendo, let's talk about what the actual report was about.

Yes, you can get permission on Discord. People have been doing it for years even. Notice how y'all only started having a problem with it when somebody you don't like is doing it, and thus there now needs to be legislation for it.

Yes, Dread should have mentioned who gave her permission. But this is a """crime""" many others commit, and I don't see none of them being reported. Some of said people haven't even gotten permission at all on the threads they comment, and I don't see a soul asking for them to be punished.

Yes, thinking you're right doesn't give you the ability to spam the shit out of the RVR with insults, memes and confirmations that add nothing. This has always been the case, and the only difference is that now we're enforcing it. You want to throw around meaningless faff, go to an F&G thread.

If you find something that Dread has done which is genuinely against the rules rather than simply annoying you, I'll be the first man to to agree with you. But in the meantime telling me that I lick her ass ain't exactly winning you points, bubba. That's the final word on this.

And side note: Abstractions is a woman.

 

[Deagonx]

You don't have to be part of the situation to give input

Also, you quite literally do need to be a part of the situation to give input.

 

[Crabwhale]

yes

Anything else to add?

 

[KLOL506]

Why not just make it a rule to have to mention who you got permission from, and posting photo evidence that said staff member gave you permission to do so?

 

[Deagonx]

Yeah. I mean that's an unwritten rule, and I'm fine with codifying it for the sake of clarity, but to be fair it won't solve the issue that a) people will forget and b) it doesn't amount to a reportable offense when they do.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I have mentioned in my post literally after I responded to someone's comment. Again, this is simply a false report which can be avoided.
Also, no I am not comfortable sharing my DMs publicly - there is privacy in my DMs, specially with her. I have shared it to Deagonx, because I trust him, otherwise I am pretty sure not obligated to share it unless I am required to, which in case, I have done so.

Also, not getting topic-off, but those all derailments that happened and disrespectful, rude comments makes me question if it was intentional to report me for the sake of getting me banned or not.

This is also irrelevant, since the report was not whether I lied about permission or not, its if I had one in the beginning which in fact, I had it but I simply forget it to mention it in my original post.

 

[Deagonx]

I can confirm having seen it, and Abstractions confirmed it to me herself.

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah. I mean that's an unwritten rule, and I'm fine with codifying it for the sake of clarity, but to be fair it won't solve the issue that a) people will forget and b) it doesn't amount to a reportable offense when they do.

Still, having a backup plan is always better than nothing.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I also heard Abstractions mention offsite she confirmed given Dread permission. But as mentioned earlier; there is no strict rule about the method in which one got permission, but it's preferable to either screenshot or have another staff member; any staff member who seen in not just the one who gave them, may give a word of mouth that they confirm it is true.

 

[RaveeCPN]

I have mentioned in my post literally after I responded to someone's comment.

You didn't have to be so stupid as to edit your post after it was reported *****

 

[Crabwhale]

And using the N word on site, in the RVR. Aighty. And I was trying to stay impartial.

I've taken the liberty of banning them for a year. My fellow staff can decide on whether that's too much.

 

[Deagonx]

You didn't have to be so stupid as to edit your post after it was reported N word

She didn't. When you made the report your post said "1 minute ago" and her edit was "4 minutes ago."

 

[Mr. Bambu]

And using the N word on site, in the RVR. Aighty. And I was trying to stay impartial.

I've taken the liberty of banning them for a year. My fellow staff can decide on whether that's too much.

Year is probably a bit harsh but then again with Fandom being as strict as it is on racial slurs there's an argument for that duration, for sure, especially in conjunction with incredibly ***** behavior across this thread.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Year is probably a bit harsh but then again with Fandom being as strict as it is on racial slurs there's an argument for that duration, for sure, especially in conjunction with incredibly ***** behavior across this thread.

Yeah, by itself I'd say a year is too harsh (if they're black) but they were also already digging a hole for themselves throughout this thread up until now. A year should suffice, given all this

 

[Damage3245]

And using the N word on site, in the RVR. Aighty. And I was trying to stay impartial.

I've taken the liberty of banning them for a year. My fellow staff can decide on whether that's too much.

I'm fine with said punishment.

 

[Georredannea15]

And using the N word on site, in the RVR. Aighty. And I was trying to stay impartial.

I've taken the liberty of banning them for a year. My fellow staff can decide on whether that's too much.

I have a question. Why exactly was Ravee banned? Insult or something more serious?

 

[KLOL506]

I have a question. Why exactly was Ravee banned? Insult or something more serious?

Apparently he used the N-word.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

I have a question. Why exactly was Ravee banned? Insult or something more serious?

Using the n word that is considered globally bannable in Fandom

 

[Qawsedf234]

I have a question. Why exactly was Ravee banned? Insult or something more serious?

They dropped the N-word in their last comment on the RVR.

 

[LordTracer]

And using the N word on site, in the RVR. Aighty. And I was trying to stay impartial.

I've taken the liberty of banning them for a year. My fellow staff can decide on whether that's too much.

With the slur coupled with their behavior in this thread even before that, a year seems appropriate.

 

[Deagonx]

A year for a racial slur is acceptable. Perhaps even a bit generous

 

[Overlord_Darkness]

I have a question. If a person is Russian by nationality, can he get banned on the forum and wiki?

 

[Deagonx]

What you are doing now and what you (most of the staff members) have always done is nothing more than licking Dread's ass. Cringe asf

Dread wants it noted further that Ravee made this rather inflammatory comment about her and advocated that the ban be extended on such grounds (sexual harassment).

I have a question. If a person is Russian by nationality, can he get banned on the forum and wiki?

No. What the ****?

 

[Overlord_Darkness]

No. What the ****?

Thank you, it's nice to hear that.

 

[Deagonx]

Why did you ask that question?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Dread wants it noted further that Ravee made this rather inflammatory comment about her and advocated that the ban be extended on such grounds (sexual harassment).

That's not sexual harassment. The expression doesn't mean anything inherently sexual (the fact this even needs explanation...)

 

[Overlord_Darkness]

Why did you ask that question?

Because this question concerned me directly. I want to avoid politics in my answer, but I think you are well aware of the situation and the attitude that some people sometimes show.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Because this question concerned me directly. I want to avoid politics in my answer, but I think you are well aware of the situation and the attitude that some people sometimes show.

Don't ask questions like that again

 

[Crabwhale]

I'm assuming this pertains to the war in Ukraine and certain connotations that might come from it regarding Russians.

In which case, let it be known that this wiki will NEVER discriminate on the basis of nationality. You have nothing to be concerned of.

 

[Deagonx]

That's not sexual harassment. The expression doesn't mean anything inherently sexual (the fact this even needs explanation...)

Sexual harassment at least in corporate settings generally extends to any sexual remarks directed at someone. It almost certainly would be a pretty serious HR violation.

But semantics/labelling notwithstanding it was a very inappropriate remark and Dread is valid in feeling uncomfortable being spoken about like that. Whether we extend the ban on that basis is a separate matter, but i was asked to bring it up so I have.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

But semantics/labelling notwithstanding it was a very inappropriate remark and Dread is valid in feeling uncomfortable being spoken about like that. Whether we extend the ban on that basis is a separate matter, but i was asked to bring it up so I have.

Entirely different matter, indeed.

I wouldn't extend the ban on grounds of "sexual harassment". At best, just general rudeness, which 1 year covers more than enough.

 

[Deagonx]

Well the year was for using a racial slur.

 

[Crabwhale]

I'm with Leph here.