One Piece: High 6-A downgrade Pt. 2

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Base Yamato physicals should be 760 TT

Base Yamato with Hao Infusion is 1 Petaton

Hybrid Form Yamato Physicals and Hao Infusion are 1 Petaton

 

[Kachon123]

I agree that Base Yamato should downscale from Hybrid Kaido, but to 760 TT, since that's still Hybrid Kaido we're talking about, so downscaling from blocking Hybrid Kaido's hit is worthy of 760TT.

Is that not what I said, which you disagreed with?

Base Yamato with Haō Infusion, sure.

Nah, Base Yamato w/ Hao clashed with Hao Hybrid Kaido at the end of 1016 (I asked Damage and Fireld, they said it was Hao Infusion). That's definitely 1PT.

 

[Kachon123]

Base Yamato physicals should be 760 TT

Why?

Base Yamato with Hao Infusion is 1 Petaton

Why?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Why?

Blocked an attack from Hybrid Form Kaidou and easily handles Tobi Roppo level fighters

Why?

Base Yamato with Hao Infusion hurt an Admiral that also considered her Haki tough Easy 1 Petaton scaling right there

 

[CloverDragon03]

How does him trying to kill Yamato equate to him no being casual?

I know you're not comparing the people who make Yonkou scream out in pain, break bones, leak blood, and claim that they dealt the most damage than they've ever felt in decades to Base Yamato, who in much stronger state was getting humbled by a casual Kaidou.

If you're trying to kill someone, why would you be casual? Like, come on now, this is bordering on dishonest

Anyways I'm with Mitch here as far as Yamato's scaling goes

 

[Kachon123]

If you're trying to kill someone, why would you be casual?

Because they're much weaker than you and you still want them to join your army and lead your nation?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Because they're much weaker than you and you still want them to join your army and lead your nation?

But Kaido realizes by now that all bets are off...

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Yamato: “You have always intended to kill me”

Kaidou: “Yes that’s right, this is not a family squabble, if you want to wear the name of Oden, you must be prepared for war, this isn’t a game Yamato!!!”

“Casual”

 

[Kachon123]

But Kaido realizes by now that all bets are off...

No he didn't.

 

[Kachon123]

We even see in this image Yamato attempting to block a strike from Hybrid Haō Infusion Kaidou and failing, getting sent flying.

 

[Kachon123]

Yamato: “You have always intended to kill me”

Kaidou: “Yes that’s right, this is not a family squabble, if you want to wear the name of Oden, you must be prepared for war, this isn’t a game Yamato!!!”

“Casual”

How is this supposed to prove that he was not casual?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

We even see in this image Yamato attempting to block a strike from Hybrid Haō Infusion Kaidou and failing, getting sent flying.

Yeah, cause Kaidou’s Hao Infusion scales above her Physicals… She didn’t use Hao Infusion there

 

[Da3ggman]

How is this supposed to prove that he was not casual?

He basically said the equivalent of "Time to die, *****"

 

[Kachon123]

Yeah, cause Kaidou’s Hao Infusion scales above her Physicals… She didn’t use Hao Infusion there

Are we saying that Base Haō Infusion Yamato > Hybrid Yamato?

 

[Kachon123]

He basically said the equivalent of "Time to die, *****"

That doesn't answer my question.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Kachon, what Mitch sent shows that Kaido is fully intent on killing Yamato here. Why would he be casual if he's trying to kill her?

 

[Kachon123]

Kachon, what Mitch sent shows that Kaido is fully intent on killing Yamato here. Why would he be casual if he's trying to kill her?

The fact that he contradicted himself the panel right after by telling Yamato to lead his country.

If he wants her to lead his country, why would he try to kill her? It seems more than anything that Kaidou is trying to intimidate Yamato more than anything.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Are we saying that Base Haō Infusion Yamato > Hybrid Yamato?

Possibly yeah, Hao Infusion is a big amp

I believe I mentioned this in the previous Yamato CRT

 

[Eseseso]

Yamato: You're trying to kill me!

Kaido: You should expect me to hold nothing back, Yamato!

cAsUal

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

The fact that he contradicted himself the panel right after by telling Yamato to lead his country.

If he wants her to lead his country, why would he try to kill her? It seems more than anything that Kaidou is trying to intimidate Yamato more than anything.

He’s literally saying “Get in line and follow my plan or die”

That’s not casual behavior

 

[Kachon123]

Yamato: You're trying to kill me!

Kaido: You should expect me to hold nothing back, Yamato!

cAsUal

The fact that he contradicted himself the panel right after by telling Yamato to lead his country.

If he wants her to lead his country, why would he try to kill her? It seems more than anything that Kaidou is trying to intimidate Yamato more than anything.

 

[Eseseso]

Also, Hybrid Yamato got hit by an enraged Hao + Hybrid Kaido, and was relatively fine besides some bleeding.

Like I said above, you can scale to the God Tiers without downscaling yet still be below them, like Law, Kidd, Zoro, Marco, and Round 1 Roof Piece Gear 4 Luffy.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Kachon, he told Yamato to either support him or die. Yamato refused to support him, so now he's going for the kill. It's that simple

 

[Kachon123]

He’s literally saying “Get in line and follow my plan or die”

That’s not casual behavior

Yamato expressed shock in her realization that Kaidou may actually try to kill her.

After Kaidou saw that, he harped on it, saying that he will in an attempt to intimidate her.

In actuality, he wants her to lead his country as stated by himself right after.

It's not that hard to follow

 

[CloverDragon03]

Yamato expressed shock in her realization that Kaidou may actually try to kill her.

After Kaidou saw that, he harped on it, saying that he will in an attempt to intimidate her.

In actuality, he wants her to lead his country as stated by himself right after.

It's not that hard to follow

Your extrapolation of this is far more akin to headcanon and requires more assumptions

 

[Eseseso]

If he was casual, why the **** would he even use Hao Infusion?

Hell, why even use his Hybrid, which he's usually reserved about using except against incredibly hard opponents?

 

[Kachon123]

Kachon, he told Yamato to either support him or die. Yamato refused to support him, so now he's going for the kill. It's that simple

You're getting the order of events wrong.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Kaidou repeatedly using Hao Infusion to beat his child on the ground repeatedly

“Casual”

 

[Kachon123]

Possibly yeah, Hao Infusion is a big amp

Then why would she even bother using her Hybrid in that case?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Then why would she even bother using her Hybrid in that case?

Hybrid + Hao Infusion go brrr

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Then why would she even bother using her Hybrid in that case?

Cause Hybrid+Hao is better than Base+Hao

She has a lot more versatility and abilities available with Hybrid Form, like amp attacks with ice

 

[Kachon123]

Hybrid + Hao Infusion go brrr

Which she used like twice

 

[Eseseso]

Which she used like twice

I mean, she still used it.

Also, Zoan durability/stamina go brrr

 

[CloverDragon03]

The way I see it, Kaido's very expressed intent to kill Yamato and the fact that he used both Hao Infusion and his Hybrid Form indicate he was very much not casual. The presented counters just ain't near convincing by comparison

So yeah, 760 teratons in base and 1 petaton for Zoan Forms and Hao Infusion is what I agree with for Yamato

 

[Eseseso]

Kaidou repeatedly using Hao Infusion to beat his child on the ground repeatedly

“Casual”

Don't forget that terrifying enraged face he has while doing it.

"Casual".

 

[Eseseso]

The way I see it, Kaido's very expressed intent to kill Yamato and the fact that he used both Hao Infusion and his Hybrid Form indicate he was very much not casual. The presented counters just ain't near convincing by comparison

So yeah, 760 teratons in base and 1 petaton for Zoan Forms and Hao Infusion is what I agree with for Yamato

Cause Hybrid+Hao is better than Base+Hao

She has a lot more versatility and abilities available with Hybrid Form, like amp attacks with ice

Tbh, I'd support her base being 1 PT, except her Base without Hao has only that one feat on that level so we don't know for sure.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Tbh, I'd support her base being 1 PT, except her Base without Hao has only that one feat on that level so we don't know for sure.

Stop Eseseso'ing

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah, after reading through this, I’m not really seeing how Kaido was casual against Yamato. I’m in favor of Mitch’s suggestion for his scaling.

 

[Eseseso]

Stop Eseseso'ing

I legit just said why I sadly won't support Base Best Boi being 1pt.

 

[1st_Virtue_of_Pure_Void]

I legit just said why I sadly won't support Base Best Boi being 1pt.

Best boi?